Ams 700 lgx 21+1

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Hereshoping
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Ams 700 lgx 21+1

Postby Hereshoping » Sun Jan 22, 2023 9:56 pm

Hello everyone. I’ve been reading for about 2 months now and finally decided to post. I had my surgery Jan. 10th and have pretty much healed at this point. Im happy to join my fellow bionic brothers lol! My concern is a super common one and I’m hoping to hear from someone who has a similar size implant and issue.

The background: Im 40 y/0 athletic male with Ed since I can remember. I ended up having an ultrasound done and sever arterial issues and my peak systolic velocity was insanely low. Long story short I finally caved and did the surgery 10 days ago.

I’m concerned that my flaccid size will be more or less my erect size which would mean a big loss of previous length. Currently it is 5.5” bone pressed flaccid (after surgery.) is there a way to approximate the fully inflated size I can expect. I’m afraid of what the final result will be. I should add that I am fully deflated.

Thank you guys so much and good luck to everyone!
Last edited by Hereshoping on Tue Jan 24, 2023 8:00 am, edited 1 time in total.
40 y/o Ams 700 lgx 21+1. ED as far as I can remember, not very responsive to pills and the trimex injection barely did a thing.
Surgery: 1/10/23
Bone pressed flaccid: 5.5”
Erect Length: unknown yet

Feel free anyone to pm me.

newbie443
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Location: Sedgwick county, Kansas USA

Re: Ams 700 lgx 21+1

Postby newbie443 » Sun Jan 22, 2023 11:18 pm

Hereshoping wrote:Hello everyone. I’ve been reading for about 2 months now and finally decided to post. I had my surgery Jan. 10th and have pretty much healed at this point. Im happy to join my fellow bionic brothers lol! My concern is a super common one and I’m hoping to hear from someone who has a similar size implant and issue.

The background: Im 40 y/0 athletic male with Ed since I can remember. I ended up having an ultrasound done and sever arterial issues and my peak systolic velocity was insanely low. Long story short I finally caved and did the surgery 10 days ago.

I’m concerned that my flaccid size will be more or less my erect size which would mean a big loss of previous length. Currently it is 5” bone pressed flaccid (after surgery.) is there a way to approximate the fully inflated size I can expect. I’m afraid of what the final result will be. I should add that I am fully deflated.

Thank you guys so much and good luck to everyone!


Welcome to the site. There is a ball park estimate that 1/3 of the cylinder will be inside and 2/3 will be in the external shaft. But that varies as we are all different and so are doctors. For example a doctor that is less experienced may have trouble dilating the space inside and so less will be inside and more outside. And some men are just deeper or a doctor is more aggressive and can go deeper and it end up 50/50. So by that estimate your ball park is 14cm or 5.5". But it is possible but rare that you could be 8" or 4". Now the LGX has the ability to expand 10%. Or to 24-25 cm according to table 1 in this report. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5654325/ I was right at 7" in my healthy youth but ED causes size loss and I waited a long time to seek help. I was a little over 4: when I first started cycling. And just 5" when I first had sex with a woman. I cycled according to my doctors instructions until released then di pump adding or forcing cycling since then. I would inflate to max and then wait usually for the stretching feeling to go away then add or force more pumps into the cylinders. Then wait maybe 5 mnutes or so and try adding more pumps again. I do that for as long as I cycle and I had gains out past one year. This can take a long time and a bit of work to get back any recoverable size you may have. Nothing to worry about right now. The key right now is to follow your doctors instructions and most importantly avoid infection. Infection will require in most all cases the removal of the device and shorter device when another attempt is made. Infection risk is the highest just after surgery and will reduce over time for the first year. After a year the infection risk dose not go away it just stays a the same extremely low rate for the life of the device. So be very careful to do everything you can to prevent infection.

As far as your "flaccid", you are very early in this and still have swelling. Your real flaccid is some time off yet. You need to get your mind in a proper time frame. I will take weeks and even months for the device to soften and there will be a lot of changes. First you need to heal and follow your doctors instructions. That doctor has treated you and cut you open and knows more about what you need to do than anyone else. There are exceptions with bad outcomes with not so good doctors where men need to switch to a more experienced and better doctor. But so far nothing you have posted would indicate that. Use the search function in the upper right as much as you can. It gets tiresome typing out the answer to the same question over and over. If you can't find what you're looking for with search then ask with a post. You might also create a signature like I or some other members have. This will make it easier to answer questions with out having to type out a post asking for the information and then another to answer the question. For me it is much easier to talk on the phone than to type out short messages over days or weeks. So if you want to talk send me a Private Message and we can set up a time.

Welcome to the brotherhood. Best of luck to you.
Injections failed. Implanted 3-21-18 AMS 700 LGX 21 + 1 RTE 100 cc reservoir 6.5" L 5" G Dr. Kramer.

Proximal Perforation Sling Repair 4/13/21 Dr. Broghammer

66 years young.

Will show and tell and talk with others.

Hereshoping
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Re: Ams 700 lgx 21+1

Postby Hereshoping » Sun Jan 22, 2023 11:33 pm

newbie443 wrote:
Hereshoping wrote:Hello everyone. I’ve been reading for about 2 months now and finally decided to post. I had my surgery Jan. 10th and have pretty much healed at this point. Im happy to join my fellow bionic brothers lol! My concern is a super common one and I’m hoping to hear from someone who has a similar size implant and issue.

The background: Im 40 y/0 athletic male with Ed since I can remember. I ended up having an ultrasound done and sever arterial issues and my peak systolic velocity was insanely low. Long story short I finally caved and did the surgery 10 days ago.

I’m concerned that my flaccid size will be more or less my erect size which would mean a big loss of previous length. Currently it is 5” bone pressed flaccid (after surgery.) is there a way to approximate the fully inflated size I can expect. I’m afraid of what the final result will be. I should add that I am fully deflated.

Thank you guys so much and good luck to everyone!


Welcome to the site. There is a ball park estimate that 1/3 of the cylinder will be inside and 2/3 will be in the external shaft. But that varies as we are all different and so are doctors. For example a doctor that is less experienced may have trouble dilating the space inside and so less will be inside and more outside. And some men are just deeper or a doctor is more aggressive and can go deeper and it end up 50/50. So by that estimate your ball park is 14cm or 5.5". But it is possible but rare that you could be 8" or 4". Now the LGX has the ability to expand 10%. Or to 24-25 cm according to table 1 in this report. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5654325/ I was right at 7" in my healthy youth but ED causes size loss and I waited a long time to seek help. I was a little over 4: when I first started cycling. And just 5" when I first had sex with a woman. I cycled according to my doctors instructions until released then di pump adding or forcing cycling since then. I would inflate to max and then wait usually for the stretching feeling to go away then add or force more pumps into the cylinders. Then wait maybe 5 mnutes or so and try adding more pumps again. I do that for as long as I cycle and I had gains out past one year. This can take a long time and a bit of work to get back any recoverable size you may have. Nothing to worry about right now. The key right now is to follow your doctors instructions and most importantly avoid infection. Infection will require in most all cases the removal of the device and shorter device when another attempt is made. Infection risk is the highest just after surgery and will reduce over time for the first year. After a year the infection risk dose not go away it just stays a the same extremely low rate for the life of the device. So be very careful to do everything you can to prevent infection.

As far as your "flaccid", you are very early in this and still have swelling. Your real flaccid is some time off yet. You need to get your mind in a proper time frame. I will take weeks and even months for the device to soften and there will be a lot of changes. First you need to heal and follow your doctors instructions. That doctor has treated you and cut you open and knows more about what you need to do than anyone else. There are exceptions with bad outcomes with not so good doctors where men need to switch to a more experienced and better doctor. But so far nothing you have posted would indicate that. Use the search function in the upper right as much as you can. It gets tiresome typing out the answer to the same question over and over. If you can't find what you're looking for with search then ask with a post. You might also create a signature like I or some other members have. This will make it easier to answer questions with out having to type out a post asking for the information and then another to answer the question. For me it is much easier to talk on the phone than to type out short messages over days or weeks. So if you want to talk send me a Private Message and we can set up a time.

Welcome to the brotherhood. Best of luck to you.
newbie443 wrote:
Hereshoping wrote:Hello everyone. I’ve been reading for about 2 months now and finally decided to post. I had my surgery Jan. 10th and have pretty much healed at this point. Im happy to join my fellow bionic brothers lol! My concern is a super common one and I’m hoping to hear from someone who has a similar size implant and issue.

The background: Im 40 y/0 athletic male with Ed since I can remember. I ended up having an ultrasound done and sever arterial issues and my peak systolic velocity was insanely low. Long story short I finally caved and did the surgery 10 days ago.

I’m concerned that my flaccid size will be more or less my erect size which would mean a big loss of previous length. Currently it is 5” bone pressed flaccid (after surgery.) is there a way to approximate the fully inflated size I can expect. I’m afraid of what the final result will be. I should add that I am fully deflated.

Thank you guys so much and good luck to everyone!


Welcome to the site. There is a ball park estimate that 1/3 of the cylinder will be inside and 2/3 will be in the external shaft. But that varies as we are all different and so are doctors. For example a doctor that is less experienced may have trouble dilating the space inside and so less will be inside and more outside. And some men are just deeper or a doctor is more aggressive and can go deeper and it end up 50/50. So by that estimate your ball park is 14cm or 5.5". But it is possible but rare that you could be 8" or 4". Now the LGX has the ability to expand 10%. Or to 24-25 cm according to table 1 in this report. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5654325/ I was right at 7" in my healthy youth but ED causes size loss and I waited a long time to seek help. I was a little over 4: when I first started cycling. And just 5" when I first had sex with a woman. I cycled according to my doctors instructions until released then di pump adding or forcing cycling since then. I would inflate to max and then wait usually for the stretching feeling to go away then add or force more pumps into the cylinders. Then wait maybe 5 mnutes or so and try adding more pumps again. I do that for as long as I cycle and I had gains out past one year. This can take a long time and a bit of work to get back any recoverable size you may have. Nothing to worry about right now. The key right now is to follow your doctors instructions and most importantly avoid infection. Infection will require in most all cases the removal of the device and shorter device when another attempt is made. Infection risk is the highest just after surgery and will reduce over time for the first year. After a year the infection risk dose not go away it just stays a the same extremely low rate for the life of the device. So be very careful to do everything you can to prevent infection.

As far as your "flaccid", you are very early in this and still have swelling. Your real flaccid is some time off yet. You need to get your mind in a proper time frame. I will take weeks and even months for the device to soften and there will be a lot of changes. First you need to heal and follow your doctors instructions. That doctor has treated you and cut you open and knows more about what you need to do than anyone else. There are exceptions with bad outcomes with not so good doctors where men need to switch to a more experienced and better doctor. But so far nothing you have posted would indicate that. Use the search function in the upper right as much as you can. It gets tiresome typing out the answer to the same question over and over. If you can't find what you're looking for with search then ask with a post. You might also create a signature like I or some other members have. This will make it easier to answer questions with out having to type out a post asking for the information and then another to answer the question. For me it is much easier to talk on the phone than to type out short messages over days or weeks. So if you want to talk send me a Private Message and we can set up a time.

Welcome to the brotherhood. Best of luck to you.


Thanks for the kind words. I know it’s early but being a typical guy I’m getting nervous. Hopefully I can post what my doctor does during the post surgery office inflation next Friday.
40 y/o Ams 700 lgx 21+1. ED as far as I can remember, not very responsive to pills and the trimex injection barely did a thing.
Surgery: 1/10/23
Bone pressed flaccid: 5.5”
Erect Length: unknown yet

Feel free anyone to pm me.

KeithC
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Re: Ams 700 lgx 21+1

Postby KeithC » Sun Jan 22, 2023 11:57 pm

First off you are NOT pretty much healed. It will take months not days to be fully healed.

My advice is to try to relax and not stress out over length and girth at this point.

The first time I pumped up at the doctors office after 6 weeks of healing I was disappointed with what I saw. I had an AMS 700CX 24cm installed.

7 weeks later I am way more satisfied after cycling daily. I’m longer and thicker now than that day at the doctors office. My head gets fully engorged now with stimulation too.

Do yourself a favor and try to relax. You’re going to have to play the hand you’re dealt anyway…

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Re: Ams 700 lgx 21+1

Postby Txagq8 » Mon Jan 23, 2023 12:13 am

I can do the math. It’s not that difficult.

21 + 1 cm = 22 cm
22 cm/2.54 = 8.66 in
8.66 x .66 = 5.71”. 8.66 x .75 = 6.49”
So, rough and dirty math you are looking at between 5 3/4” and 6 1/2” after about a year, with 6 1/4” probably being the most likely.

I wouldn’t discount the idea that you can get to 6 3/8” with it, either.

Here’s another way to look at this. None of these are perfect solutions, since guys’ anatomies do vary. But yeah, there’s a big time correlation between penis size and implant size (duh)

I have 23 cm of implant (18+5). You have 22 (21+1).
All other things being equal, you ought to wind up a cm shorter than me.
When the dust finally cleared, and three years after my surgery, I’m at 6 3/4”. Call it 6.75”
A cm of that (0.4”) would leave you at 6.35”. Or 6 3/8”.
That’s plenty. It’s well above average. You weren’t considering a new career in porn, were you?

Do NOT agonize about it. Cycle it, use it, stretch and grow it. It’s slow going but worth it. At your stage I “might” have been 5, or close to it. For a month, 6 weeks I put on a brave face but inwardly was thinking WTF? But in the end they all lived happily ever after.

Oh, and the LGX is really cool. My flaccid is 5 1/4, 5 1/2 ish. Erectile is 6 1/2 to 6 3/4 depending on squeezes and how hard I bone press. But it looks good, works better, has an angle to kill for. What’s not to like?
Age 68. Physically fit educated red neck in Texas. Very married. 23 cm (18+5) of LGX installed by Dr. Bryan Kansas 12/31/2019. I fought the ED and my wife & I won. I’m either full of shit or sound advice. You decide which.

newbie443
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Re: Ams 700 lgx 21+1

Postby newbie443 » Mon Jan 23, 2023 12:43 am

Hereshoping wrote:
Thanks for the kind words. I know it’s early but being a typical guy I’m getting nervous. Hopefully I can post what my doctor does during the post surgery office inflation next Friday.


This is my second time on this site. I was on the first time on the old format and I was unable to merge with the old posts. I had read a lot and read about men having a WTF did I do to myself episodes after surgery. I knew it going in and still had them. Now is your time to rest and heal. Keep your incision as clean and dry as you can. Watch for infection and get in to be seen at the first sign of it. If you catch it early it can be resolved with medications. But you have to catch it early and get right in to someone to start you on medication. At 10 days post surgery your risk is still high. Your job now is to rest and heal. So do it the best you can and be as healthy as you can. Be strict on wound care. Manage any other health issues you have. I made myself wait for 1 year post op to judge the outcome of my surgery. That is because of not only the months of changes in the operation of the device but I had read of others also having size gains past a year. To be clear this is not size enlargement. This is just recovering some of the size I lost to ED.
Injections failed. Implanted 3-21-18 AMS 700 LGX 21 + 1 RTE 100 cc reservoir 6.5" L 5" G Dr. Kramer.

Proximal Perforation Sling Repair 4/13/21 Dr. Broghammer

66 years young.

Will show and tell and talk with others.

Hereshoping
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Re: Ams 700 lgx 21+1

Postby Hereshoping » Mon Jan 23, 2023 9:27 am

Txkgq8: If I end up with those numbers, I would be very happy!

Newbie443: You are right. Just going through the typical anxiety moments at this stage I suppose. When I said healed, I didn’t meant 100% sorry. I’m still sore on the inside but externally, I look completely fine even the incision. I suppose that made me a little nervous on top of that because I figured “how much more can this possibly inflate.”

Like everyone said, it’s early be patient and stay positive. I’m trying! Lol. I’m glad I found a place where everyone is going / went through the same thing.
40 y/o Ams 700 lgx 21+1. ED as far as I can remember, not very responsive to pills and the trimex injection barely did a thing.
Surgery: 1/10/23
Bone pressed flaccid: 5.5”
Erect Length: unknown yet

Feel free anyone to pm me.

daridima
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Re: Ams 700 lgx 21+1

Postby daridima » Mon Jan 23, 2023 10:09 am

Hello, I am also going to have a penile prosthesis implantation before long. First of all I am undecided between ams 700 lgx and rigicon infla 10 ax, I would also like to get some more length and girth than the original one. The ams I also read so many positive opinions on this forum, but I don't know why all the clinics I am contacting suggest rigicon because it is guaranteed for life, but I can't find many testimonials about how it works.
Also I want to ask you as an ignorant person some things:
1) roughly how many times do you have to press to totally inflate the prosthesis?
2) I have seen videos that to deflate it they first press on the valve and then squeeze the penis slightly to totally deflate it, but if instead one deflates it just that much that it is no longer erect, but leaves it not totally soft, are there any problems for the prosthesis? because aesthetically the limp penis would look bigger, but more importantly you would have to pump less times to inflate it in case your girlfriend comes near (and obviously doesn't know about the prosthesis)

thank you
43 years old, operated on 03 February 2023, Rigicon Infla 10 AX three-component prosthesis (model extendable by approx. 20%). Operated in Istanbul by Prof. DR. Karaman with penescrotal incision.

daridima
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Re: Ams 700 lgx 21+1

Postby daridima » Sun Feb 05, 2023 12:09 pm

Hi I had the surgery 2 days ago, the penis is really very red and swollen, and it hurts, the doctor on the phone says everything is normal, you who had the surgery before me, is it true? How much better afterwards?
43 years old, operated on 03 February 2023, Rigicon Infla 10 AX three-component prosthesis (model extendable by approx. 20%). Operated in Istanbul by Prof. DR. Karaman with penescrotal incision.

Txagq8
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Re: Ams 700 lgx 21+1

Postby Txagq8 » Sun Feb 05, 2023 1:29 pm

A few truths for you, Daridima.

1. No two guys have the same experience. Some hurt bad. Others very little pain. Some report very little bruising. Others (like me) bruise really badly with very little pain. Some use ice and swell badly. Others use ice and it does a good job of controlling swelling. There is just no right answer other than what your doctor says. Early on, however, it is not abnormal to have pain, swelling, bruising, soreness, or any combination. Just watch for fever. That’s usually an indicator that you need to see the doctor quickly.

2. The further in time you get from the surgery, the better things will be. A week after surgery, some healing will have taken place but you won’t be completely healed. At 3 weeks you will have healed some more but it’s going to be smaller than before. At 3 months you might have gotten some size back but not all of it, but by this time you know what you’re doing in terms of using it and you won’t be experiencing pain. At a year or so you will wonder why you thought the process would be a big deal, it’s in, you like how it works, and life goes on.
Age 68. Physically fit educated red neck in Texas. Very married. 23 cm (18+5) of LGX installed by Dr. Bryan Kansas 12/31/2019. I fought the ED and my wife & I won. I’m either full of shit or sound advice. You decide which.


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