Cycling- Full Inflation?

[JetsFan1594]

Hey all,

I’ve been posting on here quite a bit since my surgery with Eid 1/6, but had another question that I also thought would drive generally good/informative conversation for the forum.

When people cycle, how important do we think it is to reach absolutE FULL inflation?

For myself personally, I’ve made great strides with my pain and cycling tolerability in the last week, and have been using my implant (masturbating) fairly consistently. Still, I’ve only probably been inflating to ~80% capacity. This provides a good stretch feeling and an erection suitable for intercourse (certainly much harder than my pre op boner) but I know I am probably leaving 3-5 pumps in the tank. When I’ve gotten closer to complete full inflation, the pain causes me to see stars lol.

What do people think? Is it crucial for post op healing to reach full inflation?

[Rider1400]

I was over an inch short after implant and thru research here knew the only way I would get it back would be to consistently cycle to max and do the perito exercises. Over 4-6 months I was within a 1/4” of pre implant. Now I cycle once most days to max and still do some bending although if I max I can get very little bend at all. Fell as though I was probably undersized a cm or 2. I shire wouldn’t have been nearly as aggressive with pumping if it would have been a little larger in the beginning. If your happy with your size I would do whatever works for you.

[KeithC]

I’ve had an AMS 700CX 24cm for 4 months now.

I’m pretty close to my original length. My girth is less though. I don’t frantically cycle like some guys here. For one thing it isn’t always convenient to mess around with my erection for an hour or more at a time like some. I do cycle most every day some though.

I haven’t used a vacuum device either. I’ve read how some guys have blown out their implant that way.

I will say I am way more satisfied with the results now than I was 6 weeks out. First time I pumped up at my doctors office I was thinking WTF??

In my opinion there is no reason to torture yourself. Keep cycling yes but in moderation.

[sswinsfba]

When people cycle, how important do we think it is to reach absolutE FULL inflation?

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What do people think? Is it crucial for post op healing to reach full inflation?

If you need to increase your length due to post ED atrophy or just want to make your dick grow bigger, then you need to inflate your implant to max pressure each time you cycle. Otherwise, you will not be promoting addtional tissue growth.

Simple as that.

If it's too painful to do it now, then wait until it's no longer painful. However, if you want greater length/girth your ultimate objective should be able to cycle to max pressure in order to achieve the necessary tissue growth.

In addition to the level of inflation, you also need to consider the duration and frequency of inflation.

I don't think there are any hard and fast rules but the longerand more frequently you can remain inflated the more likely it's going to promote tissue growth.

I currently remain hard during cycling for 30 mins/session, 2x/day in a hot bath. I'm already thinking about extending the hot bath cycling sessions to 1 hr 2x/day to further promote growth.

The hot baths soften the cylinders and makes them more pliable but the cylinders should soften on their own over time negating the need to continue cycling in a hot tub later.

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IMO, you should only start cycling you are fully healed and/or can do it w/o pain. I had an infrapublic implant and just started cycling 2 days ago; 9 days post-op. I've felt no pain whatsoever doing it.

It's much different for penoscotal implants. Many pensocrotal patients report severe or high levels of pain in the penis and scrotum post-op & most penoscrotal docs do NOT recommend cycling prior to 4 weeks after surgery.

I know that there are some penoscrotal docs that recommend it but believe that cycling w/in a week or less after penoscrotal surgery, well before you are fully healed is NOT a good idea.

Heal and recover 1st and then cycle when you no longer feel pain doing so. At least that what I would do, if I were a penoscrotal patient.

[Bwtbbb]

When people cycle, how important do we think it is to reach absolutE FULL inflation?

[snip}

What do people think? Is it crucial for post op healing to reach full inflation?

If you need to increase your length due to post ED atrophy or just want to make your dick grow bigger, then you need to inflate your implant to max pressure each time you cycle. Otherwise, you will not be promoting addtional tissue growth.

Simple as that.

If it's too painful to do it now, then wait until it's no longer painful. However, if you want greater length/girth your ultimate objective should be able to cycle to max pressure in order to achieve the necessary tissue growth.

In addition to the level of inflation, you also need to consider the duration and frequency of inflation.

I don't think there are any hard and fast rules but the longerand more frequently you can remain inflated the more likely it's going to promote tissue growth.

I currently remain hard during cycling for 30 mins/session, 2x/day in a hot bath. I'm already thinking about extending the hot bath cycling sessions to 1 hr 2x/day to further promote growth.

The hot baths soften the cylinders and makes them more pliable but the cylinders should soften on their own over time negating the need to continue cycling in a hot tub later.

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IMO, you should only start cycling you are fully healed and/or can do it w/o pain. I had an infrapublic implant and just started cycling 2 days ago; 9 days post-op. I've felt no pain whatsoever doing it.

It's much different for penoscotal implants. Many pensocrotal patients report severe or high levels of pain in the penis and scrotum post-op & most penoscrotal docs do NOT recommend cycling prior to 4 weeks after surgery.

I know that there are some penoscrotal docs that recommend it but believe that cycling w/in a week or less after penoscrotal surgery, well before you are fully healed is NOT a good idea.

Heal and recover 1st and then cycle when you no longer feel pain doing so. At least that what I would do, if I were a penoscrotal patient.

Please stop spreading misinformation regarding peno-scrotal surgeries. You seem to be trying to justify your decision to get infra-pubic, which I believe was a bad idea.

Peno-scrotal is well documented to allow for longer implants and doesn't have the risk of damaging the nerve that gives the penis pleasurable sensation.

[ThailandBound]

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Please stop spreading misinformation regarding peno-scrotal surgeries. You seem to be trying to justify your decision to get infra-pubic, which I believe was a bad idea.

Peno-scrotal is well documented to allow for longer implants and doesn't have the risk of damaging the nerve that gives the penis pleasurable sensation.[/quote]

Agreed. Don’t know where this idea that severe penile and scrotal pain comes from. I’m in ne month penoscrotal postop and could not be more comfortable. I’ve been inflated to 60% since day 1, and start cycling in just over a week. One thing for sure, my pump
placement is perfect with no need to pull down ever. Barely had any swelling or pain at all postop. Usual soreness but nothing severe at all. I’m reading some recent infrapubic reports and there is some considerable discomfort im noting.

The results are variable it seems with dr. technique and individual adaptability and recovery. We’re all different and if penoscrotal were so bad there would be a lot more unhappy guys here. But that’s not the case at all.

[Jage64]

Please stop spreading misinformation regarding peno-scrotal surgeries. You seem to be trying to justify your decision to get infra-pubic, which I believe was a bad idea.

I agree with Bwtbb, although I don't necessarily believe IP was a bad idea. You do whatever your surgeon recommends and whatever he's comfortable with. Pimping one method over the other is the bad idea.

On Dr. Eid's website (which many here revere as the best surgeon doing these implants) he pulls no punches as to what he thinks about IP. He's very clear as to why he does NOT recommend it.
https://www.urologicalcare.com/surgical-approach/

On Dr. Perito's website (another excellent doctor), he has at least a couple of videos as to why he prefers IP over PS. Which seemingly is based on being more 'patient friendly' and not due to any actual implantation benefits. Also, the IP approach is a faster surgery, allowing more patients to be done in a day, which may be a consideration for the doctor, and not the patient.
Here's Perito's response to probably Eid's website statement above:
https://peritourology.com/2022/04/mtp-6 ... echniques/

Bottom line, and Dr. Perito makes this clear, that at the 6 month mark and beyond there is no difference in outcome if both surgeries are done without complication.

The person attached to the penis should make the call, after looking at both options, pros and cons, choosing a surgeon and the method he's most skilled at is paramount. For me, I'm most concerned about the talent and expertise of the surgeon, followed closely by nerve risk (penile sensory loss would negate the whole purpose), and ease of final pump placement. Ability to cycle sooner or use it on my wife a few weeks sooner does not rise to the level of consideration, especially with Dr. Perito's assertion that in 6 months everything is the same anyway. Hopefully this will be with me for a decade or more, I'm not concerned about a few weeks here or there.

[sswinsfba]

Please stop spreading misinformation regarding peno-scrotal surgeries. You seem to be trying to justify your decision to get infra-pubic, which I believe was a bad idea.

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Ok but it's NOT my intention to spread "misinformation" about penoscrotal implants or anything else.

I don't think penoscrotal is BAD and imfrapubic is good but there are differences in the recovery process for each based on what I've read hear and elsewhere, which I have mentioned where I thought appropriate.

You are free to disagree and state an opposing opinion, as you and others have already done, and the readers are free to make their own decision about who is "right" or "wrong" and which method they choose to have done on them.

I believe we are all here (in part) to try to help "inform" those men who have not yet made the decision to get an implant or not.

I'm sorry if my statements to not comport w/yours but I have a habit of taking a minority and contrarian view on most things. It is apparently is no different in this case.

Que sera, sera.

[sswinsfba]

Please stop spreading misinformation regarding peno-scrotal surgeries. You seem to be trying to justify your decision to get infra-pubic, which I believe was a bad idea.

Ok but it's NOT my intention to spread "misinformation" about penoscrotal implants or anything else.

I don't think penoscrotal is BAD and imfrapubic is GOOD but there are differences in the recovery process for each based on what I've read & heard here and elsewhere, which I have mentioned where I thought appropriate.

You are free to disagree and state an opposing opinion, as you and others have already done, and the readers are free to make their own decision about who is "right" or "wrong" and which method they choose to have done on them.

I believe we are all here (in part) to try to help "inform" those men who have not yet made the decision to get an implant or not.

I'm sorry if my statements to not comport w/yours but I have a habit of taking a minority and contrarian view on most things. It is apparently is no different in this case.

Que sera, sera.

[crazyjoe]

If you guys are done debating, I have a general question about cycling: when I start inflating my Titan, I can hear/feel a squishing sound of the liquid being pumped. As I get further along, that sound/feeling disappears though the bulb is still soft enough to squeeze which gets harder and harder to do. So is it still doing any good to cycle up until you just can't squeeze any further -- at which point I worry that I could burst a tube?
thanks for any opinions!