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I have heard of this method of stretching your flaccid to the maximum and that will be your implant size ,but even with totally stretching my flaccid still its not even close to my total size when fully erected? I have watched some Clavell videos on youtube and he seems to inject saline to fully erect the penis but other surgeons do not do this thing from what I ve seen on youtube.
Anyone who was extreme grower before implant,did you retain your size?

I had read some information on this years ago and the point was relaxing the tissue during surgery. This is done for all proper sizing for men with a really good doctor. And when not done the reason for size loss. At the time many years ago this was being discussed on this site the information posted was that with general anesthesia a drug to relax the tissue was given prior to measuring the internal corpora for proper cylinder size. If the tissue relaxing drug was not injected the measurement would be short and resulted in size loss. If a spinal block was used the drug was not needed as with the spinal block the tissue was relaxed. For this reason at the time many on this site were asking for a spinal block during surgery, And even some ask for no sedation and were awake during the surgery. I had the spinal block and no sedation for my revision as I have trouble with narcotic meds. The stretch before surgery measurement is bogus. The only measurement that means anything is done during the surgery.

In the general section of this site in the documents worth reading thread are a number of publications in regards to size loss before, during, and after surgery. Or rather information on reducing size loss. After surgery you will be more of a shower, More so with the Titan than the LGX unless you choose to partially inflate your LGX to approx. Titan size.

And then you have (growers) like me who are doing a malleable through no choice of their own and your size when done id what you get. And I have heard that over time as the implant settles in the tissue may stretch even more and you will lose size also ..

Stretching your flaccid is close, but the real measurement isn't done until you're on the surgery table knocked out and your dick split open. Not sure why some docs have different procedures for measuring, but that's why you want a good doc to do your implant.

Doc Clavell inflated mine with saline before the surgical festivities. I’m bigger now than the simple stretch test indicated and pretty much back to original size. Still cycling daily.

Just a note to add that I did not include in my above post is that is the way all measurements should be made. With relaxed tissue it makes no difference if you are a shower or a grower or in-between. Find a really good doctor and speak to some or at least one of his/her patients. Ask question about size loss from surgery (my local doctors and the patients I contacted all said loss of 1" or more), activation wait time (covered in the "coffin Effect" paper), and ask if the doctor does repairs and revisions (none of my local doctors do).

Frenchie wrote:but even with totally stretching my flaccid still its not even close to my total size when fully erected?

I doubt you are stretching it hard enough. It has to be really hard have a surgeon attempt it for you.

I gained a cm in length compared to the pre-op and lost 0.5 to 1 cm in circumference, yet I chose the titan for its circumference, I think many things are said but there are many variables in an operation

Frenchie wrote:I have heard of this method of stretching your flaccid to the maximum and that will be your implant size ,but even with totally stretching my flaccid still its not even close to my total size when fully erected? I have watched some Clavell videos on youtube and he seems to inject saline to fully erect the penis but other surgeons do not do this thing from what I ve seen on youtube.
Anyone who was extreme grower before implant,did you retain your size?

My penis more than doubled in length from flaccid to erect before my implant. After implant with an LGX, my penis increases about 33% in length from fully deflated to fully inflated.

How the surgeon measures your penis: DURING the operation (all measures before the operation only provide an estimate, at best) he inserts a measuring tool into your penis, measuring down (proximal measurement) into your pelvic crus and notes the distance from the incision in your penis' corpora/tunica albuginea. Then inserts the tool through the same incision up to the glans (again, inside your tunica) and notes the distance from the incision to the distal tip of the tunica. The surgeon does this quite forcefully, as you can see from videos on line. Adding the two measurements together tells what size implant will fit inside your penis and make it as erect as your tunica albuginea does with a natural erection.

Note that your penis' size is irrelevant to the implant size. They bear a loose relationship but the external measure of your penis includes the meatus (your glans) and deducts however deep your pelvic crus is (including the fat pad over your pelvic bone). The implant is just there to fill in for your (failed) corpus cavernotum that is supposed to inflate and support your tunica albuginea which gives your penis its rigidity.

Lately i've been considering the implant way a bit more, so i've been wondering about that too. Me too, apparently, am a "big time" grower. Not that i have a big dick, but my flaccid (as is usual, i believe) varies a LOT and can sometimes be as small as 5cm and my erection is usually around 14-15cm, can get up to 17cm if i use a VED a bit more aggressively.
Having never really in my life experienced a "real, normal" erection since i've had my health issues since birth, i am not even sure that this is my "real" max size.

What worries me even more is the GIRTH, not the length - my dick is pretty short in length but the worst part is, it's thin too (i believe 12-13cm in circumference just behind the glans). I've never found any precise info about actual girth change of flaccid/inflated implanted penis, everyone talks about the length but not the girth. I am worried that if i become even thinner after an implant, it'd be pretty ridiculous :/