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Posted: **Tue Oct 03, 2023 9:30 pm**

Hello,

Just sharing my thoughts here. I agree with Dr. Clavell that the implant should not be the last option. In fact, because it's always guaranteed to give a super rock erecrion as long as one wish the implant should be considered in the early stage of ED to avoid size loss, save relationships from sexless life, and most important your mental state.

For some guys sex is not that important and can go years before getting an implant therefore they should not advice other guys not to get an implant. For Other sex is very important and will get an implant even if their dick still works ok but not as well as previous months...they basically get ahead of the decline to enjoy many more years of super sex life. Than the rest of people are just scared of the surgery and will put them self in the corner while talking bad about the implant.

I personally know people in their 20s and 30s with no ED that are abusing ED pills because they want to fuck the whole nigth long.....is basically the samething with the implant now...many people including yung mens are going for it because it will make sex better than ever.

Ciao

Posted: **Tue Oct 03, 2023 11:25 pm**

Antonio1010 wrote:Hello,

Just sharing my thoughts here. I agree with Dr. Clavell that the implant should not be the last option. In fact, because it's always guaranteed to give a super rock erecrion as long as one wish the implant should be considered in the early stage of ED to avoid size loss, save relationships from sexless life, and most important your mental state.

For some guys sex is not that important and can go years before getting an implant therefore they should not advice other guys not to get an implant. For Other sex is very important and will get an implant even if their dick still works ok but not as well as previous months...they basically get ahead of the decline to enjoy many more years of super sex life. Than the rest of people are just scared of the surgery and will put them self in the corner while talking bad about the implant.

I personally know people in their 20s and 30s with no ED that are abusing ED pills because they want to fuck the whole nigth long.....is basically the samething with the implant now...many people including yung mens are going for it because it will make sex better than ever.

Ciao

Each man must make his own decision. Your characterization of young men "with no ED that are abusing ED pills because they want to fuck the whole night long....is basically the same thing with the implant now..." points out the fallacious nature of going to an implant before one actually NEEDS one. Abusing ED drugs, abusing recreational drugs, abusing your penis with an implant, abusing your relationships with women by implant...all morally questionable, yes? Each of us must make our own moral choices and I will not fault another man for the choices he makes.

Another point you make is that a implant prevents size loss, saves relationships and a man's mental state. Sure, that can happen. But all those things can be done by other means than an implant. VED use can prevent size loss. Relationships can be preserved (and improved) by simply being good with your partner in and out of bed. A relationship that is so weak as to be destroyed by lack of sex is perhaps not worth saving in the long term. Same reasoning applies to a man's mental state. If a man's self-worth depends so much on his erectile capacity, perhaps he needs to work on other aspects of his life. A man is more than his erection. Again, I will not judge a man on his attitude (or his love-partner or life-partner).

But I will ask him to judge himself with a clear eye.

Posted: **Wed Oct 04, 2023 1:24 am**

If ALL men went thorough the same progression where pills and then injections slowly stop working--then yes, many would be better served going to implant sooner (wish I did)
BUT my understanding is that some men respond well to pills or injections and that's all they EVER need.

Is anyone suggesting that if pills or very low dose injections worked perfect every time they would still go w the implant?

Posted: **Wed Oct 04, 2023 2:41 am**

ShouldIwait wrote:(edited for focus)
Is anyone suggesting that if pills or very low dose injections worked perfect every time they would still go w the implant?

It did appear to me that Antonio1010 might have thoughts along those lines.

And he is not alone. The tales of men successfully implanted and feeling as if they are supermen at sex abound. Understandably so. Compared to what they were in the time leading up to implant, the improvement IS miraculous. Compared to what they were in their youth, not so much. But the memories of those days often fade.

Sober reflection on what an implanted man actually is, though, should give anyone pause. He is, in fact, crippled by the implant which removes virtually all erectile function and replaces it with a prosthetic erection. I some ways, better than an organic erection, but in other ways, inferior. Without the implant's function, he is totally impotent. No one should forget that.

(edited to add) Well, maybe his lover should forget that.

Posted: **Wed Oct 04, 2023 8:56 am**

ShouldIwait wrote:If ALL men went thorough the same progression where pills and then injections slowly stop working--then yes, many would be better served going to implant sooner (wish I did)
BUT my understanding is that some men respond well to pills or injections and that's all they EVER need.

Yes sure agreed. I m referring exactly to those man who said "I wish I would have done it sooner" no one should wait that pills stopped working completely nor natural erections are completely gone. My belive is that if your sex life is no longer up to your standard or you experience ed 50% of the time perhaps that if enough to move forward with an implant. In my case I m going through the progression for the last 5 years of taking pills. I tried enjection as well and after 5-6 times of use they were ether not working as well or i got tired of the whole preparation part along either penile lump and pain.

Is anyone suggesting that if pills or very low dose injections worked perfect every time they would still go w the implant?

Posted: **Wed Oct 04, 2023 9:15 am**

Lost Sheep wrote:
ShouldIwait wrote:(edited for focus)
Is anyone suggesting that if pills or very low dose injections worked perfect every time they would still go w the implant?

It did appear to me that Antonio1010 might have thoughts along those lines.

And he is not alone. The tales of men successfully implanted and feeling as if they are supermen at sex abound. Understandably so. Compared to what they were in the time leading up to implant, the improvement IS miraculous. Compared to what they were in their youth, not so much. But the memories of those days often fade.

Sober reflection on what an implanted man actually is, though, should give anyone pause. He is, in fact, crippled by the implant which removes virtually all erectile function and replaces it with a prosthetic erection. I some ways, better than an organic erection, but in other ways, inferior. Without the implant's function, he is totally impotent. No one should forget that.

(edited to add) Well, maybe his lover should forget that.

What do you mean when you say in "other ways inferior"? If an erection can occur at anytime to have successfull penatrarion and great play time is worth whatever inferior you referring to? I don't remember when I posted that but things are different now. At that time i was in the research phase and exploring worst case scenario. At this time ed pills are not working as they used too. I suffer from pelvic floor dysfunction pain which is causing early ejaculatio along with episode of ED and alots of pain all over my pelvic and genitals. These episods are incresing even though I m taking higher dose of ed pills. Also, how long should one wait to finally stop taking ED pills (which are ment as hearth medication)? How long more is anyone willing to risk the side effect? Drawing the line is perhaps what I m doing.

I appreciate anyone feedback as I understand once i go bionic there is no turning back. This thorough does scars me but then what?, I m willing to be dissapointed with my sex life and go more times trying different ed drugs, or try different enjection dosage and mix. Basically I would have to bring a farmacist with me to have a date? I m not willing nor have the energy to continue. I m going to remain posite and will only focus on those successful implante story. If the implant dint have a 95% success rate or was not making people super human in bad than yes I was going to wait much longer. Thisbis one of the biggest and toughest decisions I m making.

I guess is trues when they say noboaon no gain, no risk rewards.

Posted: **Wed Oct 04, 2023 10:03 am**

If pills aren't producing erections (enough) and satisfactory for having a good sexual intercourse, and the fact that ED isn't reversible, you can go for the implant. With pills dosage increasing, you will reach the max sometime soon. I can see that you educated yourself very well on implants, their pros and cons, and you know what outcome you can get.
At this point, I think the important thing is to get your wife onboard and let her know about your concerns and how this can improve you sexual life and relationship. If wife isn't accepting the idea, you will get a working dick but can't use it within your marriage.

Posted: **Wed Oct 04, 2023 1:35 pm**

Antonio1010 wrote:Hello,

Just sharing my thoughts here. I agree with Dr. Clavell that the implant should not be the last option. In fact, because it's always guaranteed to give a super rock erecrion as long as one wish the implant should be considered in the early stage of ED to avoid size loss, save relationships from sexless life, and most important your mental state.

For some guys sex is not that important and can go years before getting an implant therefore they should not advice other guys not to get an implant. For Other sex is very important and will get an implant even if their dick still works ok but not as well as previous months...they basically get ahead of the decline to enjoy many more years of super sex life. Than the rest of people are just scared of the surgery and will put them self in the corner while talking bad about the implant.

I personally know people in their 20s and 30s with no ED that are abusing ED pills because they want to fuck the whole nigth long.....is basically the samething with the implant now...many people including yung mens are going for it because it will make sex better than ever.

Ciao

From a literal standpoint, the implant is the last option. Once it's done, there's no going back.

I remember my frustration with my insurance company when they were balking at giving me coverage. I knew that if it had been my knee or shoulder that wasn't functioning, and I had put in the same amount of time and effort at attempting other treatments, that I would have been approved for surgery right away. But they weren't seeing it that way.

I don't think men should rush into getting an implant. There are other treatments that can preserve the wholeness of a man's body. When I injured my back in my early 30's, my doctor didn't immediately suggest surgery. I used other, less extreme treatments first.

But, I don't think men should wait too long before looking into getting an implant, either. I was at the same level of dysfunction for at least half a dozen years when I got my implant. That's a lot of years I missed out on good sex and improved mental and emotional health.

I think it's important for men and their doctors to be more educated. I had three PCPs from the onset of my ED to when I got an implant. Not one of them suggested any alternatives other than meds. I saw two urologists about my ED prior to my implant surgeon. Neither of them mentioned an implant as a potential treatment for my ED. Men and their doctors should be educated in the causes, progression, and treatments for ED.

I want to also touch on the mental health impacts of ED. To go inexplicably from having a fully functional dick to having ED was devastating. I tried various counselors about my ED, too. And I never thought these counselors really got what I was going through. Mental health professionals also need to know how destructive ED can be for men's self-perceptions and relationships. They need to be prepared to address complex issues that arise for men with ED.

Ultimately, each man will have to make the call when he thinks it's right. But I don't think he should do it alone. He needs professional insight, so that it's at the right time and for the best reasons.

Posted: **Wed Oct 04, 2023 2:01 pm**

FinallyBionic wrote:If pills aren't producing erections (enough) and satisfactory for having a good sexual intercourse, and the fact that ED isn't reversible, you can go for the implant. With pills dosage increasing, you will reach the max sometime soon. I can see that you educated yourself very well on implants, their pros and cons, and you know what outcome you can get.
At this point, I think the important thing is to get your wife onboard and let her know about your concerns and how this can improve you sexual life and relationship. If wife isn't accepting the idea, you will get a working dick but can't use it within your marriage.

At this time for the last month or so ED pills are not working as well as 6 months ago. What I mean is I can still get an erection to penetrate. Rigidity still enough. The biggest problem is that I now ejaculate extremely fast. If I try round two it can take some time and my wife is turned off at that point. In the past I can go for round two in the matter of 10-20 minutes. Take in consideration that I have increased and changed ed drug to some new potent drug like rugiet which has a combination of both viagra and cialis which can be dangerous. Using this drug the first 3 times made me feel like i was back in my 30s and that was just one month and half ago. But now is not doing much. In addition, I just did a p-shot along with steam cell and shockwave therapy just a 2 weeks ago. When I used this strategy up to last year I was getting great erecrion without the ed pills. But now even with ed pills I m not noticed any diference but just a waste of money and time. Of course my wife tells me everything is fine and she doesn't mind I finish to fast. But when we are in the act I see how much she desires me longer. Because she loves me so much what she supposed to say? It's up to me to stand up as a man and brig back our a great sex life. The good news is that she is on board now. She told me she will support me no matter what. She will be traveling with me for my Surgery on November 15th. Nonetheless, I told her that a pump will be installed and that it will guarantee my erections. I don't think she should known anything else specially about the cylinder. Why? My body my privacy should not be compromised.

I belive that the reason for this decline as to do with my pelvic floor dysfunction pain flair that are occurring often and it's a chronic condition now. It making my erections weaker, short live, and faster ejaculatio. I m very healthy otherwise. I take daily supplements that suppat to help blodd flue down there.....I don't want this condition to controll the rest of my life. Even if the surgery can worsen my pelvic floor dysfunction at least I m guarantee that it won't compromise my erections quality. This is my conclusion. I m exaggerating to wanting the penile implant because my penis somewhat still works or at times that I don't have flare words pretty good?

Ps. I tried all kids or remedies for my pelvic floor dysfunction some were very expensive like pelvic enjection but still noting. Symptoms come and go from no where.

Posted: **Wed Oct 04, 2023 2:15 pm**

I understand. Also, Dr. Clavell will not do the implant surgery for you if doesn't believe that you need it.
I agree with you that you don't have describe everything about the surgery to your wife. It will be very scary for her. My wife doesn't know all the details about mine, although I am nearly 3 years out. She wanted our sex life back after prostate surgery caused complete ED but didn't want to even hear about surgeries. That's why I just went ahead and did it, told her later that I had hernia surgery, and only told her about my implant about a month after that. She was fine with my decision and knew why I did it without telling her.

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