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I’m new to this site and considering an implant for my worsening (seemingly by the day) ED. As I read about all the newly bionic brothers, I see many references to “cycling”. Could you please share what exactly cycling is? Again, please forgive the dumb question from the newbie!

There are no dumb questions. Except the unasked ones. Welcome to the forum.

Active on the forum now are only a handful of many, many members who have been here, most now inactive, who have shared their experiences. You’d be best served to begin going back in time and binge reading what is already here.

Cycling is frequently discussed, and it is imperative that you do it. It simply means inflating and deflating the implant during the recovery period to maximize your length and potential for a great outcome. How to do it varies among members.

Start by simply placing the word “cycling” in the search box. Happy reading.

After the doctor/surgeon releases you to begin "cycling", twice daily, squeeze the implanted pump bulb and attain an erection. hold the erection for 15 minutes and release, repeat twice in the morning, and twice at night. Per the Mayo Clinic, do this for the first year.
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stmfttr wrote:After the doctor/surgeon releases you to begin "cycling", twice daily, squeeze the implanted pump bulb and attain an erection. hold the erection for 15 minutes and release, repeat twice in the morning, and twice at night. Per the Mayo Clinic, do this for the first year.
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That's 5 times a day.....for a year? WOW!!! That's a lotta woodys!!!!

ceekay87 wrote:I’m new to this site and considering an implant for my worsening (seemingly by the day) ED. As I read about all the newly bionic brothers, I see many references to “cycling”. Could you please share what exactly cycling is? Again, please forgive the dumb question from the newbie!

Doctors and men differ a lot. It is important that you follow your doctors' instructions for you. This is a video for the AMS 700 device. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qwp0YfSLxIU At about 12.35 in that video it explains that there are different protocols for cycling by different doctors and gives an example. Wait times for activation (starting to cycle) vary a lot also. That is a good video to watch to see how the IPP works. You may want to also look for and watch videos of the surgery. Again, doctors differ on how the devices are implanted.

In the general discussion section of this forum is a thread titled documents worth reading. Spend some time reading those documents. That will help you understand things a bit more and then you can ask questions. Most important is if you are having diminished erections that are resulting in size loss you need to start penis exercise with a VED. There are several documents in that thread on VED use for maintaining or slowing down the size loss from ED.

ceekay87 wrote:

stmfttr wrote:After the doctor/surgeon releases you to begin "cycling", twice daily, squeeze the implanted pump bulb and attain an erection. hold the erection for 15 minutes and release, repeat twice in the morning, and twice at night. Per the Mayo Clinic, do this for the first year.
stmfttr
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That's 5 times a day.....for a year? WOW!!! That's a lotta woodys!!!!

Sory for the confusion. 2-30minute sessions. AM and PM. Each session consists of 2-15minute cycles

ceekay87 wrote:I’m new to this site and considering an implant for my worsening (seemingly by the day) ED. As I read about all the newly bionic brothers, I see many references to “cycling”. Could you please share what exactly cycling is? Again, please forgive the dumb question from the newbie!

Cycling before implant is also beneficial. One does this using a VED (Vacuum Erection Device). This emulates the usual daily erections a man (without erectile dysfunction) gets (often at night where he does not even notice). These daily erections do several things; bring fresh blood into the penis to oxygenate the penile tissues; maintain size; maintain elasticity.

There are two protocols I know of. One is to pump up to an erection (inside the VED) and maintain that erection for about 30 minutes (sometimes adding a bit more vacuum as tissues relax). Do this twice a day for about 30 minutes. The other is to pump up to an erection inside the VED and release the vacuum, allowing the erection to go flaccid. This usually takes about a minute, then repeat for 30 minutes. Twice a day. Note that neither of these protocols use the constriction ring that one would use to have sex. Also note that a vacuum is a vacuum and the penis does not care if one uses a medical-grade VED or a novelty-store (sex shop) unit or builds one by cobbling together a simple cylinder, tubing and automotive vacuum pump. As long as one gets a good seal and does not overdo the vacuum, it is all the same. Medical grade ones may have a longer service life and offer added utility (vacuum gauge, for instance).

The history of VED use is interesting. 10 years ago, VED use was not often recommended. But studies showed that pre-op VED use gave benefits. Post-op VED use remained controversial until just about 2020-2021 and is now gaining acceptance among implant surgeons.

Remember, and do not forget: DO NOT OVERDO the amount of vacuum!!!! It should be safe to pump up until you feel a pleasant strain in your penis (at this point your penis should be about the size of a natural erection or a half-inch more, due to the "pulling forward" effects of the vacuum). But no more than that!

ceekay87 wrote:I’m new to this site and considering an implant for my worsening (seemingly by the day) ED. As I read about all the newly bionic brothers, I see many references to “cycling”. Could you please share what exactly cycling is? Again, please forgive the dumb question from the newbie!

The reason why you want to cycle is because after surgery, the body will start to form a " surgical capsule " around the implant. This is true of any foreign object put into the body . From my understanding, the surgical capsule takes months to fully form . If you don't cycle you may restrict your length. In addition to the implant, a surgical capsule is also forming around the reservoir. If you don't cycle your reservoir you may not be able to deflate your implant all the way after the capsule is fully formed. Anyway, that's my layman's understanding and explanation of why cycling is important. Dr. Clavell has a video on YouTube about it along with other top implant surgeons.

ceekay87 wrote:I’m new to this site and considering an implant for my worsening (seemingly by the day) ED. As I read about all the newly bionic brothers, I see many references to “cycling”. Could you please share what exactly cycling is? Again, please forgive the dumb question from the newbie!

I read a bunch on FT as well, back to 2019, i tried to cycle 2x a day for an hour. I pump to the max and then about every 10min try to pump more in. It hurts when you first start, then after a few months you can make the full hour. I believe this helps regain/maintain your length and grow it. I gained about 1/4 post op and i am fairly sure it was because of committed cycling.

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ceekay87 wrote:I’m new to this site and considering an implant for my worsening (seemingly by the day) ED. As I read about all the newly bionic brothers, I see many references to “cycling”. Could you please share what exactly cycling is? Again, please forgive the dumb question from the newbie!

Cycling before implant is also beneficial. One does this using a VED (Vacuum Erection Device). This emulates the usual daily erections a man (without erectile dysfunction) gets (often at night where he does not even notice). These daily erections do several things; bring fresh blood into the penis to oxygenate the penile tissues; maintain size; maintain elasticity.

There are two protocols I know of. One is to pump up to an erection (inside the VED) and maintain that erection for about 30 minutes (sometimes adding a bit more vacuum as tissues relax). Do this twice a day for about 30 minutes. The other is to pump up to an erection inside the VED and release the vacuum, allowing the erection to go flaccid. This usually takes about a minute, then repeat for 30 minutes. Twice a day. Note that neither of these protocols use the constriction ring that one would use to have sex. Also note that a vacuum is a vacuum and the penis does not care if one uses a medical-grade VED or a novelty-store (sex shop) unit or builds one by cobbling together a simple cylinder, tubing and automotive vacuum pump. As long as one gets a good seal and does not overdo the vacuum, it is all the same. Medical grade ones may have a longer service life and offer added utility (vacuum gauge, for instance).

The history of VED use is interesting. 10 years ago, VED use was not often recommended. But studies showed that pre-op VED use gave benefits. Post-op VED use remained controversial until just about 2020-2021 and is now gaining acceptance among implant surgeons.

Remember, and do not forget: DO NOT OVERDO the amount of vacuum!!!! It should be safe to pump up until you feel a pleasant strain in your penis (at this point your penis should be about the size of a natural erection or a half-inch more, due to the "pulling forward" effects of the vacuum). But no more than that!

What is the benefit of the vacuum device after implant?