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The website reads “AMS 700 LGX™ Penile Prosthesis: The only penile implant on the US market with cylinders designed to expand up to 25% in length and up to 20mm (18mm +/- 2mm) in girth.”

A. Does it Expand 25% more than your current size?

OR

Does it expand 25% more than your ‘best pre-implant natural erection’? (Size gain)


B. Anyone ended up with more girth than your natural erection ever had?

My best natural erection was 6.5 inches in length and 4.5 inches in girth. Any idea what’s going to happen?

Thank you

Personally, i think that “25%” claim is misleading.

Their ad says that the cylinders can expand by 25%. This is a far cry from a penis expanding in girth and (especially) length by 25%. Guys can construe this as meaning their erect penis can increase in length by 25%.

I think that’s impossible. Best you ever hear on franktalk is an increase of a cm or 2. Hardly the same as a guy with a 6 inch erection growing 25% to 7.5 inches. Highly unlikely.

Sure, the cylinder can increase 25%. A child’s balloon can grow many times its original size after all. But the tunica albuginia seems to be a very solid protective sheath. Once it’s reached its natural limit, it doesn’t want to stretch much more. I seriously doubt the average guy will get 25%.

The expansion is merely the potential for the implant. That does not mean that your penis size will grow. The implant will stop at whatever your genes & tunica will allow. Those two sizes are not the same.

It's unlikely that your length will exceed your youthful best, by very much if at all. Stretching your tunica will be similar.

Look at it this way. With a natural erection a soft penis may be 5 inches but when stimulation it expands to your full erection, that’s what the AMX 700 LGX does to simulate a more natural erection. The Titan is more closer to you full erection length, when you pump it up, it just grows in girth but very little length.

I agree with other posts that I would expect a 25% gain in size

ThailandBound wrote:Personally, i think that “25%” claim is misleading.

Their ad says that the cylinders can expand by 25%. This is a far cry from a penis expanding in girth and (especially) length by 25%. Guys can construe this as meaning their erect penis can increase in length by 25%.

I think that’s impossible. Best you ever hear on franktalk is an increase of a cm or 2. Hardly the same as a guy with a 6 inch erection growing 25% to 7.5 inches. Highly unlikely.

Sure, the cylinder can increase 25%. A child’s balloon can grow many times its original size after all. But the tunica albuginia seems to be a very solid protective sheath. Once it’s reached its natural limit, it doesn’t want to stretch much more. I seriously doubt the average guy will get 25%.

I agree with ThailandBound, and in addition the rigidity of the LGX is demonstrably less than that of a Titan or CX. The "ability" to stretch in length makes it less rigid.

Every single man alive, if faced with an implant, wants it to make their penis longer. There are thousands of posts on FT regarding how to regain or add length, it's just what men worry about. In my opinion, Boston Scientific is playing on this innate desire for a longer dick, and developed something they could legally claim grows in length when pumped up. From my research and from consulting with well respected doctors, it's more a gimmick than a proven technology. I was told directly that the LGX should not be an option I should consider.

Case in point, since every man's desire is a dick that gets longer, why hasn't Coloplast or any other implant company developed their own version? I think they know that the juice isn't worth the squeeze, more issues come from this design than it's worth.

I would be very interested in seeing even an uninstalled LGX growing in length by 25%, has anybody seen or heard of a video showing this? Everything I saw was either animated or discussed, but never actually shown. If it could grow by 25% in length, you'd think there would be video all over the internet showing it, not just talking about it.

Jage64 wrote:

ThailandBound wrote:Personally, i think that “25%” claim is misleading.

Their ad says that the cylinders can expand by 25%. This is a far cry from a penis expanding in girth and (especially) length by 25%. Guys can construe this as meaning their erect penis can increase in length by 25%.

I think that’s impossible. Best you ever hear on franktalk is an increase of a cm or 2. Hardly the same as a guy with a 6 inch erection growing 25% to 7.5 inches. Highly unlikely.

Sure, the cylinder can increase 25%. A child’s balloon can grow many times its original size after all. But the tunica albuginia seems to be a very solid protective sheath. Once it’s reached its natural limit, it doesn’t want to stretch much more. I seriously doubt the average guy will get 25%.

I agree with ThailandBound, and in addition the rigidity of the LGX is demonstrably less than that of a Titan or CX. The "ability" to stretch in length makes it less rigid.

Every single man alive, if faced with an implant, wants it to make their penis longer. There are thousands of posts on FT regarding how to regain or add length, it's just what men worry about. In my opinion, Boston Scientific is playing on this innate desire for a longer dick, and developed something they could legally claim grows in length when pumped up. From my research and from consulting with well respected doctors, it's more a gimmick than a proven technology. I was told directly that the LGX should not be an option I should consider.

Case in point, since every man's desire is a dick that gets longer, why hasn't Coloplast or any other implant company developed their own version? I think they know that the juice isn't worth the squeeze, more issues come from this design than it's worth.

I would be very interested in seeing even an uninstalled LGX growing in length by 25%, has anybody seen or heard of a video showing this? Everything I saw was either animated or discussed, but never actually shown. If it could grow by 25% in length, you'd think there would be video all over the internet showing it, not just talking about it.

Theres a video on youtube which inflates an expandable implant and non expandable implant together on the same setup to show the difference. It is significant. Dr Perito says patients will increase size if they exercise the implant regularly.

passionatedoer wrote:The website reads “AMS 700 LGX™ Penile Prosthesis: The only penile implant on the US market with cylinders designed to expand up to 25% in length and up to 20mm (18mm +/- 2mm) in girth.”

A. Does it Expand 25% more than your current size?

OR

Does it expand 25% more than your ‘best pre-implant natural erection’? (Size gain)


B. Anyone ended up with more girth than your natural erection ever had?

My best natural erection was 6.5 inches in length and 4.5 inches in girth. Any idea what’s going to happen?

Thank you

My opinion is that it would be more appropriate to say that the LGX shrinks up to 25% (or, more mathematically accurately, shrinks 20%) upon deflation. This allows my flaccid penis to be shorter than my erect penis. (I will testify that my erect/inflated penis is every bit as long as my pre-implant erection.)

Remember also that the expansion/retraction figure refers only to the inflatable portion of the implant. Not the rear tip or exenders and not the distal tip.

This flexibility in length allows a man to still be a bit of a "grower", allowing a bit more convenience stowing away his penis when not in use for sex or urination.

ruwansilva25 wrote:

Jage64 wrote:

ThailandBound wrote:Personally, i think that “25%” claim is misleading.
Their ad says that the cylinders can expand by 25%. This is a far cry from a penis expanding in girth and (especially) length by 25%. Guys can construe this as meaning their erect penis can increase in length by 25%.
I think that’s impossible. Best you ever hear on franktalk is an increase of a cm or 2. Hardly the same as a guy with a 6 inch erection growing 25% to 7.5 inches. Highly unlikely.
Sure, the cylinder can increase 25%. A child’s balloon can grow many times its original size after all. But the tunica albuginia seems to be a very solid protective sheath. Once it’s reached its natural limit, it doesn’t want to stretch much more. I seriously doubt the average guy will get 25%.

I agree with ThailandBound, and in addition the rigidity of the LGX is demonstrably less than that of a Titan or CX. The "ability" to stretch in length makes it less rigid.
Every single man alive, if faced with an implant, wants it to make their penis longer. There are thousands of posts on FT regarding how to regain or add length, it's just what men worry about. In my opinion, Boston Scientific is playing on this innate desire for a longer dick, and developed something they could legally claim grows in length when pumped up. From my research and from consulting with well respected doctors, it's more a gimmick than a proven technology. I was told directly that the LGX should not be an option I should consider.
Case in point, since every man's desire is a dick that gets longer, why hasn't Coloplast or any other implant company developed their own version? I think they know that the juice isn't worth the squeeze, more issues come from this design than it's worth.
I would be very interested in seeing even an uninstalled LGX growing in length by 25%, has anybody seen or heard of a video showing this? Everything I saw was either animated or discussed, but never actually shown. If it could grow by 25% in length, you'd think there would be video all over the internet showing it, not just talking about it.

Theres a video on youtube which inflates an expandable implant and non expandable implant together on the same setup to show the difference. It is significant. Dr Perito says patients will increase size if they exercise the implant regularly.

Sorry, you are misinterpreting the video with the implants actual use. In an unrestained state, yes the LGX will stretch quite a bit. That is totally irrelevant to how it will behave inside your dick. The tunica will not allow it to grow anywhere near that much.

Also, did the video state at what pressure they had inflated them to? I really doubt they did. Even a medical study that we have discussed many times here used 20 psi to compare Titans to CX's. I specifically asked my dr about that study & pressures used. He said that most men can only generate around 12 psi. So any growth from 12 to 20 isn't relevant. Btw, my dr is in several Boston Scientic YouTube videos. I'm fairly sure he knows what he is talking about on pressures.

You might not be old enough to remember when tires had tubes. It was common to inflate them outside of a tire to have fun floating at a lake. They would inflate many times larger than the tire they were used in. The tire controlled the inflaltion. The tunica is like the tire. It restricts the implants growth. Now IF your tunica is large or will allow more size than your body used to get. Yes you can seen gains. But this is all back to your size is going to be pretty close to your pre ED size.

My dr WILL NOT use a LGX on a patient that measures at 21cm or longer when on the table. It is nonnegotiable to him. I even told him that I would prefer a LGX. I never thought that I woud measure 21cm. Well surprise!

I've seen lots of Perito's videos. Yes he says growth can happen. But he has said more times that many men will see growth than he has said ALL men will have growth. Its a play on words on how English is used in the USA.

Also, only the part of the cylinder that is expandable can grow. The front tips & the rear tips will not grow under any circumstance. So the 25% is limited to the implant material area only which is less than the advertised total length. A 21cm LGX will not grow by 5.25cm.

passionatedoer wrote:The website reads “AMS 700 LGX™ Penile Prosthesis: The only penile implant on the US market with cylinders designed to expand up to 25% in length and up to 20mm (18mm +/- 2mm) in girth.”

A. Does it Expand 25% more than your current size?

OR

Does it expand 25% more than your ‘best pre-implant natural erection’? (Size gain)


B. Anyone ended up with more girth than your natural erection ever had?

My best natural erection was 6.5 inches in length and 4.5 inches in girth. Any idea what’s going to happen?

Thank you

A: It means the implant might grow 25% more than what it was made at. Not on what your penis is/was.

B: Rodsmen is at 7" girth. I'm at 6" girth. But we always had a lot of girth.

I predict that you would be at 4.5" girth after a few months of recovery & cycling. You might get lucky & gain some on either dimension. But I wouldn't tell you to count on it. At 7 1/2 months with a CX I'm still a little below my pre ED girth but slowly gaining. I've gained about 2cm over my stretched penis test.

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My opinion is that it would be more appropriate to say that the LGX shrinks up to 25% (or, more mathematically accurately, shrinks 20%) upon deflation. This allows my flaccid penis to be shorter than my erect penis. (I will testify that my erect/inflated penis is every bit as long as my pre-implant erection.)

Remember also that the expansion/retraction figure refers only to the inflatable portion of the implant. Not the rear tip or exenders and not the distal tip.

This flexibility in length allows a man to still be a bit of a "grower", allowing a bit more convenience stowing away his penis when not in use for sex or urination.[/quote]

This is my feeling on the LGX.
I chose it based on the potential to have a more natural penis.
I am still a bit more of a shower than before, but there is definitely a noticeable increase in length between inflated and deflated states. It does make things a bit easier during the 99% of life that doesn't require an erection.

As far as rigidity, it may be possible for the CX or the Titan to be more rigid, but I can't understand WHY I'd want that.
If a beam doesn't deflect during use, a stronger beam won't make any practical difference.