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Posted: **Tue Apr 16, 2024 12:50 pm**

When I had a revision which replaced a 24 cm (with .5 cm RTE) AMS CRX with a 26 cm Titan, my length went from 8” to 6.5 “. At the same time, my girth went from 5” to 6”. This has me thinking that perhaps when the internal tissues are stretched in the axial dimension, the ability to stretch in the longitudinal dimension is inversely limited. The penile volume is maintained in the trade off. I believe the titan implant is significantly wider than the AMS which explains the increase in girth. I’m just guessing at why such a length loss with the longer implant. Anyone else have this type of results?

Posted: **Tue Apr 16, 2024 1:44 pm**

that's so strange... I don't think there are many explanation to your case.
probably something went wrong during the op.

by following your theory you should be much longer with the titan deflated (not inflated) but I don't think that's your case

BTW I don't think you had the AMS CXR (that is the narrow version), you probabily had the standard AMS CX

Posted: **Wed Apr 17, 2024 8:42 am**

Hrc714 wrote:When I had a revision which replaced a 24 cm (with .5 cm RTE) AMS CRX with a 26 cm Titan, my length went from 8” to 6.5 “. At the same time, my girth went from 5” to 6”. This has me thinking that perhaps when the internal tissues are stretched in the axial dimension, the ability to stretch in the longitudinal dimension is inversely limited. The penile volume is maintained in the trade off. I believe the titan implant is significantly wider than the AMS which explains the increase in girth. I’m just guessing at why such a length loss with the longer implant. Anyone else have this type of results?

By official measurements, I understand that AMS is the least wide of the 3, you can check the user manuals, I think it comes out... even the least, coloplast 2nd and rigicon the one that expands the most in circumference.

Posted: **Wed Apr 17, 2024 2:00 pm**

jl33ur wrote:
Hrc714 wrote:When I had a revision which replaced a 24 cm (with .5 cm RTE) AMS CRX with a 26 cm Titan, my length went from 8” to 6.5 “. At the same time, my girth went from 5” to 6”. This has me thinking that perhaps when the internal tissues are stretched in the axial dimension, the ability to stretch in the longitudinal dimension is inversely limited. The penile volume is maintained in the trade off. I believe the titan implant is significantly wider than the AMS which explains the increase in girth. I’m just guessing at why such a length loss with the longer implant. Anyone else have this type of results?

By official measurements, I understand that AMS is the least wide of the 3, you can check the user manuals, I think it comes out... even the least, coloplast 2nd and rigicon the one that expands the most in circumference.

Everyone wants to point out the cylinder diameters for girth calculations. I personally think that is clearly a false assumption. Lots of members have posted about not getting a girthy penis with an AMS implant. But yet here I am, 6" girth with a CX. I had that girth fairly early in my recovery. I'm not the only 6" girth AMS owner here. Several have posted similar sizes. The key element to your final girth is what you historically had. I always had a 6" girth, maybe even a little more in my youth.

Statistics that I've read claim that 6" girth is on the rare side of penis girths. My opinion is that none of the implants will give a guy with a 4" girth a 6" girth after surgery. Guys that think a Titan will magically give them a huge girthy penis are chasing an unicorn. After having ED any erect dick is going to feel fat.

Choose your surgeon carefully. My dr has very few revisions needed. But he fixes quite a few failures of other drs. He only uses AMS products. But remember that AMS has two implant models while Coloplast only has one model. More AMS implants are used yearly than Coloplast implants. AMS is the leading implant line. A person could argue that they're the leading company for a reason.

Be carefull on believing internet rumors.

Posted: **Wed Apr 17, 2024 4:19 pm**

Gt1956 wrote:Be careful . . . believing internet rumors.

Agreed but I'd put it a bit differently . . .

Don't believe ANYTHING men say about their dick size on the Net, unless it's verified by unaltered pics and/or unless the claims made are reasonable based on medical &/or scientific data.

The average erect dick size for men is around around 5.1-5.5 inches.

See, for example: https://www.healthline.com/health/mens- ... penis-size

So, assuming a normal bell curve distribution, the # of men w/erect dicks 7-8 inches long is quite rare statistically & far less common than the # of men I've seen claiming such size on the Net. 8-)

PS: This doesn't mean that the men claiming such size aren't actually that big or that you need to challenge anyone making such claims, it just means that you need to take such claims w/a grain of salt.

Posted: **Wed Apr 17, 2024 5:21 pm**

sswinsfba wrote:
Gt1956 wrote:Be careful . . . believing internet rumors.

Agreed but I'd put it a bit differently . . .
Don't believe ANYTHING men say about their dick size on the Net, unless it's verified by unaltered pics and/or unless the claims made are reasonable based on medical &/or scientific data.
The average erect dick size for men is around around 5.1-5.5 inches.
See, for example: https://www.healthline.com/health/mens- ... penis-size
So, assuming a normal bell curve distribution, the # of men w/erect dicks 7-8 inches long is quite rare statistically & far less common than the # of men I've seen claiming such size on the Net.

Well spoken even though I wasn't working in that direction. My point was that there isn't a magic implant that was goingvto make you into a porn star. It doesn't matter how you read the literature, how you add the numbers or even what someone posts on this board. Regardless of which implant they get. Your final length & girth are unlikely to be above you bodies historical size. But it does happen albeit rarely. But it can be less. That is where the dr choice enters the picture.

Yes, I get it that some leading implant drs are using a certain brand or the other. Nearly all of them have used a different brand in the past. Even Eid has had AMS patients post here on FT.

In the end the drs are responding to what their patients are asking for. They are implanting what their patients are requesting. To them it doesn't matter very much which model they use. They all produce a suitable erection for sex.

I do find it interesting that 21cm of implant seems to be the most popular length used. But the reported erection sizes are all over the place.

Yes, I do know about deep vs shallow cruz's. But 1cm equals 400" of an inch. It would take a 5cm difference in cruz depths to change a bone pressed erection by 2". I think that a depth difference that large is on the rare side. There has to be another factor going on over the implanted erection lengths. Any guesses?

Posted: **Wed Apr 17, 2024 8:12 pm**

Gt1956 wrote:Well spoken even though I wasn't working in that direction.

My point was that there isn't a magic implant that was going to make you into a porn star. It doesn't matter how you read the literature, how you add the numbers or even what someone posts on this board. Regardless of which implant they get. Your final length & girth are unlikely to be above you bodies historical size. But it does happen albeit rarely. But it can be less. That is where the dr choice enters the picture.

Agreed.

When I got my implant my surgeon suggested that I could see increase of about 1" in length & girth but that didn't happen.

As I mentioned elsewhere, I did get an increase of 0.5 x 0.5 inches in erect length & girth immediately post op but my erect dick eventually returned to its original size of 5.5x5.5.

However, I recently discovered that I could at least temporarily regain the extra 0.5 x 0.5 by using a vacuum pump.

So, for the past few days, I've been pumping for 30 mins 2x/day (after getting up and before going to bed) but I now think that just 30 mins 1x/day in the morning and again just before I expect to have sex (whenever I know that in advance) will be better approach.

This is an experiment in progress & is subject to change. Meaning I could drop it entirely & I also don't expect the gains I achieve pumping periodically to become permanent.

FWIW, there are surgeons who will significantly "oversize" the implant at the request of the patient but I don't think any "ethical" surgeon would do this because of the complications & liabilities that could arise.

That said, if done, any additional growth in erect length & girth of a dick that "might" develop with a significantly oversized implant would require maintaining a near constant erection (which will come with some and maybe a lot of pain due to the necessary stretching of the tissue involved) and would probably take a long time, long enough for new tissue to be forced to grow obviously can't happen overnight.

This approach would be similar to the placement of a balloon under the skin to grow additional skin to use for grafting but I agree with you that the anticipated gains from this approach would be limited.

Posted: **Wed Apr 17, 2024 9:44 pm**

I just got implanted with 25.5cm Titan I am half the way pumped according to my Doctor. I am only 5.5 inches. I don't know what it will be when fully inflated and cycling starts next week. My girth is about a 5...I don't know if I was measuring right but I was around 7.5 before. So I am taking it all in stride. Initially he said I might need a 22Cm.but he might go bigger once the surgery began. After surgery I was super excited about hearing 25.5 cm...but after the unwrap I was little shocked. I didn't suffer any prior loss to my ED....I believe my numbers will change once fully inflated and cycling. I have no regrets though I am just getting started.

Posted: **Wed Apr 17, 2024 10:18 pm**

Scorpio1 wrote:I just got implanted with 25.5cm Titan I am half the way pumped according to my Doctor. I am only 5.5 inches. I don't know what it will be when fully inflated and cycling starts next week. My girth is about a 5...I don't know if I was measuring right but I was around 7.5 before. So I am taking it all in stride. Initially he said I might need a 22Cm.but he might go bigger once the surgery began. After surgery I was super excited about hearing 25.5 cm...but after the unwrap I was little shocked. I didn't suffer any prior loss to my ED....I believe my numbers will change once fully inflated and cycling. I have no regrets though I am just getting started.

Posted: **Thu Apr 18, 2024 8:37 am**

Gt1956 wrote:
sswinsfba wrote:
Gt1956 wrote:Be careful . . . believing internet rumors.

Agreed but I'd put it a bit differently . . .
Don't believe ANYTHING men say about their dick size on the Net, unless it's verified by unaltered pics and/or unless the claims made are reasonable based on medical &/or scientific data.
The average erect dick size for men is around around 5.1-5.5 inches.
See, for example: https://www.healthline.com/health/mens- ... penis-size
So, assuming a normal bell curve distribution, the # of men w/erect dicks 7-8 inches long is quite rare statistically & far less common than the # of men I've seen claiming such size on the Net.

Well spoken even though I wasn't working in that direction. My point was that there isn't a magic implant that was goingvto make you into a porn star. It doesn't matter how you read the literature, how you add the numbers or even what someone posts on this board. Regardless of which implant they get. Your final length & girth are unlikely to be above you bodies historical size. But it does happen albeit rarely. But it can be less. That is where the dr choice enters the picture.

Yes, I get it that some leading implant drs are using a certain brand or the other. Nearly all of them have used a different brand in the past. Even Eid has had AMS patients post here on FT.

In the end the drs are responding to what their patients are asking for. They are implanting what their patients are requesting. To them it doesn't matter very much which model they use. They all produce a suitable erection for sex.

I do find it interesting that 21cm of implant seems to be the most popular length used. But the reported erection sizes are all over the place.

Yes, I do know about deep vs shallow cruz's. But 1cm equals 400" of an inch. It would take a 5cm difference in cruz depths to change a bone pressed erection by 2". I think that a depth difference that large is on the rare side. There has to be another factor going on over the implanted erection lengths. Any guesses?

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