Why do even the new pumps seem like old technology ?

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mikol1313
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Why do even the new pumps seem like old technology ?

Postby mikol1313 » Sun Mar 30, 2025 3:54 pm

In doing my research to hopefully get implanted this year, the thing I've found that has bothered me the most is the pump. I'd say it's the thing I'm most worried about......it failing, being too hard, being too noticeable, or ending up in a bad location. Wish there was a pump that didn't have to be pumped manually, but was part of the reservoir and worked on 10 year battery ( like a pacemaker). And it could be pumped or deflated using Bluetooth from a phone app.

jakerip
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Re: Why do even the new pumps seem like old technology ?

Postby jakerip » Sun Mar 30, 2025 4:11 pm

mikol1313 wrote:In doing my research to hopefully get implanted this year, the thing I've found that has bothered me the most is the pump. I'd say it's the thing I'm most worried about......it failing, being too hard, being too noticeable, or ending up in a bad location. Wish there was a pump that didn't have to be pumped manually, but was part of the reservoir and worked on 10 year battery ( like a pacemaker). And it could be pumped or deflated using Bluetooth from a phone app.


Hey man, the futuristic pump you describe would be great lol.

As long as your doctor is decent, I doubt you'll have a pump issue unless it does fail somehow. My doc was prob average, but got that part right. It hurt like hell at first in that area, but with the proper support, it likely would have been a lot less painful. Make sure to tell them you want it behind the balls and it shouldn't be detectable unless it is grabbed. My balls are relatively small and the pump still isn't noticable because it has been placed well.
41. ED since 2003 surgery to fix PD. Venous leak diagnosed in ‘11. Confirmed worse ‘23. Pills stopped being effective. Implanted by Dr Karaman 10/24. 22cm+1. Infla 10AX

Pre: 7.5" length x 6" girth
Post: 8.1" length x 6" girth

Kodixx
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Re: Why do even the new pumps seem like old technology ?

Postby Kodixx » Sun Mar 30, 2025 6:38 pm

jakerip, I'm almost 8 weeks post-op, and always anxious to hear how to reduce pain associated with pumping. Do you have some suggestions that would be included in 'proper support' ?

- Chuck
jakerip wrote:It hurt like hell at first in that area, but with the proper support, it likely would have been a lot less painful.
Feb 2025 - 58 yo, 38 with greatest wife ever
AMS CX, Tenacio, Dr Broghammer (excellent) - pre-op L:7", at 90+% inflated L: 6.5" G: 5.5"
2 wks pain, cycling-sex-lifting @ 7 wks, no discomfort @ ? mos, felt like 'new normal' @ ? mos

Mark1974
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Re: Why do even the new pumps seem like old technology ?

Postby Mark1974 » Sun Mar 30, 2025 6:54 pm

I don't think I would want any electronics in my junk
Born 6/15/74. I have substantial venous leak with fairly severe hour-glassing, but no hard plaques. My urologist is sexual health expert Dr. Laurence Levine who performed a Doppler Ultrasound and diagnosed me with VL in 2020. Surgery scheduled 5/19/25

ready2go
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Re: Why do even the new pumps seem like old technology ?

Postby ready2go » Mon Mar 31, 2025 4:39 am

mikol1313 wrote:In doing my research to hopefully get implanted this year, the thing I've found that has bothered me the most is the pump. I'd say it's the thing I'm most worried about......it failing, being too hard, being too noticeable, or ending up in a bad location. Wish there was a pump that didn't have to be pumped manually, but was part of the reservoir and worked on 10 year battery ( like a pacemaker). And it could be pumped or deflated using Bluetooth from a phone app.


i remember reading about that concept for the ipp before ,i guess it didn't take off .
But it seems like the lines leaking are the majority of the problem
you would think that's an easy fix . But it's a ongoing issue for some .

jakerip
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Re: Why do even the new pumps seem like old technology ?

Postby jakerip » Mon Mar 31, 2025 10:35 am

Kodixx wrote:jakerip, I'm almost 8 weeks post-op, and always anxious to hear how to reduce pain associated with pumping. Do you have some suggestions that would be included in 'proper support' ?

- Chuck
jakerip wrote:It hurt like hell at first in that area, but with the proper support, it likely would have been a lot less painful.


Absolutely Chuck. I can't even describe how painful it was for me in the beginning. I soon found out that it was so much worse after walking. I ordered the Seperatec underwear and it made a world of difference. The pump needs support and separation.

As far as pumping, that's one you'll have to muscles through. When the pump softens, it's easier, but I'm not sure how to avoid that pain. It's no issue at all for me to pump now. Maybe try pumping in a hot bath.
41. ED since 2003 surgery to fix PD. Venous leak diagnosed in ‘11. Confirmed worse ‘23. Pills stopped being effective. Implanted by Dr Karaman 10/24. 22cm+1. Infla 10AX

Pre: 7.5" length x 6" girth
Post: 8.1" length x 6" girth

ElbowRoom
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Re: Why do even the new pumps seem like old technology ?

Postby ElbowRoom » Mon Mar 31, 2025 10:37 am

mikol1313 wrote:In doing my research to hopefully get implanted this year, the thing I've found that has bothered me the most is the pump. I'd say it's the thing I'm most worried about......it failing, being too hard, being too noticeable, or ending up in a bad location. Wish there was a pump that didn't have to be pumped manually, but was part of the reservoir and worked on 10 year battery ( like a pacemaker). And it could be pumped or deflated using Bluetooth from a phone app.


Ugh...to each his own, but I don't like this idea. A more "modern" setup with an electrical pump might be more convenient, but is going to have more points of failure: battery, control circuits, electric motor, bluetooth transmitter, etc...in addition to the already existing points of failure of tubes, cylinders, and reservoir. A battery that will let you pump that thing up daily for ten years would be like a small car battery. For a discreet enough battery you'd be replacing it annually at minimum.

There might also be rigidity differences. I have two approved medical device VED pumps, one electric and one manual. I never use the electric one because my hand strength is better than the motor on the electric and I can pump it up much firmer myself.

The beauty of the existing pumps is in their simplicity. Basic hydraulic physics and a few simple valves with few or no moving parts is what gives them their longevity. Plus I think we spend too much time on our phones as it is, I don't want one in my bedroom controlling my erections. And I don't really want an RF transceiver sitting right next to my testicles without even skin as shielding.

Misplace or damage your phone on vacation? No sex for you. The app stops working after an update? No sex for you. I hope they do come out with these things for those that want them, but for me I wouldn't choose it, I'd prefer to KISS.
58yo in good shape looking at Coloplast Titan. Tri-Mix still works but is a drag.

GoodWood
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Re: Why do even the new pumps seem like old technology ?

Postby GoodWood » Mon Mar 31, 2025 10:38 am

Don’t hold out for new tech.

If you need an implant now, get the implants available now.

Eventually if/when you get a revision get whatever tech is available then.


But in the meantime, get back in the saddle and get a full and active sex life again.
56yo, NYC. ED started at 40. Pills first, then shots for nearly 10 years. 24cm Coloplast Titan w/classic pump implanted by Dr Eid 3/25/2025.

ElbowRoom
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Re: Why do even the new pumps seem like old technology ?

Postby ElbowRoom » Mon Mar 31, 2025 10:42 am

GoodWood wrote:Don’t hold out for new tech.

If you need an implant now, get the implants available now.

Eventually if/when you get a revision get whatever tech is available then.


But in the meantime, get back in the saddle and get a full and active sex life again.


Yeah, my surgeon mentioned that Coloplast has some new revisions to their design coming, but also said it will probably be five years before they are available (slow FDA regulatory process I suspect). I'm not waiting that long!
58yo in good shape looking at Coloplast Titan. Tri-Mix still works but is a drag.

Kodixx
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Re: Why do even the new pumps seem like old technology ?

Postby Kodixx » Mon Mar 31, 2025 11:15 am

jakerip, thanks for the tips ! The "penis part" of my procedure went well, but the "scrotum part" of the procedure was complicated by hematoma, and edema (painful to put pressure on) that ran down both legs past my knees. I'm 2 months post-op and still have some hematoma in my scrotum, which adds more challenge to pumping. On top of that, the bottom of the pump adhered to the bottom of my scrotum, and didn't break free until I started cycling. So yes I know that area needs all the help and support it can get :)
https://www.franktalk.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=26234

You are around 3 months ahead of me on cycling, and I'm glad to hear it should get easier sometime in the near future.

- Chuck
jakerip wrote:I ordered the Seperatec underwear and it made a world of difference. The pump needs support and separation. When the pump softens, it's easier, but I'm not sure how to avoid that pain. It's no issue at all for me to pump now. Maybe try pumping in a hot bath.
Feb 2025 - 58 yo, 38 with greatest wife ever
AMS CX, Tenacio, Dr Broghammer (excellent) - pre-op L:7", at 90+% inflated L: 6.5" G: 5.5"
2 wks pain, cycling-sex-lifting @ 7 wks, no discomfort @ ? mos, felt like 'new normal' @ ? mos


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