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I've been pumping for 3 1/2 weeks now and have gained significant (to me) length and girth. I'm up to about 1/2 (3/8-1/2”) of the 18mm girth expansion the AMS rep said I would get, and have gone from 4” flaccid after surgery to 5 3/8” when pumped up hard now, only 1/8” less than my pre-surgery stretched length. I started out pumping at 10 minutes a time for a couple of times a day and gradually have increased that to where today I just put in 75 pumps and am holding it for an hour or so. It doesn't hurt at all because I don't push it any, just to the edge of tightness. I could do more but it feels kinda absurd. I do the larger amounts in the mornings and do only about 20-30 in the afternoons. I wonder if now that I've gotten it to 75 so easily do I need to still keep going higher in order to continue to achieve the expansion that the CX will give, or is 30 or 40 enough? Or is my pump “slipping” or somehow malfunctioning and not really putting in more fluid when I pump so many times?

How many pumps are considered resasonable for most guys? 75 is the most I've read about but I dunno if other guys get that too. Also how long should I hold it for? Is an hour too long or can I just do 1/2 an hour or so? And finally, how many months do I have to do this stretching exercise for? When will I reach maximum inflation, give or take? Once I start having sex in a few days will that be enough for the exercise if I do it a few times a week, or do I need to just keep pumping daily for a certain amount and time? I've heard that many guys say that an 80% inflation is best for sex but since I don't know what my maximum is yet I don't know exactly how many to pump it to before I have sex. 80% of 75 seems like a lot to have to pump for sex. I'm gonna try 25 and see how it goes this weekend when I'm cleared for use on friday. I get just as hard at that as I do at 75 it seems but it's difficult to tell. I do the 75 for the stretch really, not the hardness.

I'd really welcome any feeback from you guys that have been pumping for months or even years if that's required. When did you stop your regular regimen or did you ever? Do we always have to keep “exercising” the implant besides sex or does that work in and of itself? I'd assume that you'd reach maximum inflation at some point and be able to just enjoy it and not have to do exercises every day. It's not that I don't enjoy the exercises, and I'm having more orgasms lately than I have in years now. So I'm not complaining, just curious and wondering how long I need to pump it for necessary exercise and expansion.

BTW, if you're wondering why I don't just ask my doc, when he first pumped me up he told me that I wouldn't get any bigger than I was then and he only put in about 7 or 8 pumps till he said I was hard. This has all been proven incorrect by quite a bit, so it seems useless to ask him.

Thanks as always for your assistance and advice. I hope this is a useful thread for others who have an AMS or even a Titan. There must be similarities. I'm sure a lot of us would like to know this information.

Cheers, and all the best to you all,
Steve

Hi Steven I am just starting to pump my AMS CX .... had my lessons at doctors office yesterday. I am curious what length implant do you have? Mine is 21.5 overall ... 18 plus 3.5 extenders. I haven't seen length approaching that ..... if you assume the 3.5 is internal and 18 external, I should be 7" showing but it is more like 5". I find it very difficult to pump .... both bulb and release
button are quite hard to depress. ..... find they want to slip out of your fingers ..... I have read here that it gets much easier once you have stretched things out ....... I wonder if you are getting full compression of the bulb when you pump .... I thought max required was supposed to be about 25 pumps. I am a real novice at all this.

Hi nuguy2,

Thanks for writing. I believe my implant is only 16 with 2 of extenders. I measured myself again after I posted this morning and I was up to the full 5 1/2" of my stretched length, so I guess most of it is outside and only 1 1/2" is inside. I found it difficult to pump at first too but as I did it more it got easier. I developed a manner of holding the pump assembly with my left hand just bracing it on the bottom of the pump opposite my pumping hand and that holds it steady enough for me to pump it OK. It's not difficult now at all, tho it does slip now and then, and never seems to bottom out in number of pumps so far. I dunno if it's working right or what to do so many. I've read of a tough to get 40 but that's as many as I've heard of. I would think that since you've just started pumping that you'll get much more expansion as you do it more. I went up pretty fast so I got fast expansion it seems. I assume it'll do the same for you in time. Did your lessons with your doc give you an idea of how much to pump and for how long to hold it pumped up? I'm just going by instinct on that myself, and what I've read on here. I think we're all different in that but I'd be curious to know what you were told to do. I wasn't told anything useful as I said. Best of luck and I hope you get the expansion you're hoping for in all ways.

Good growing to you,
Steve

The doctor said to pump up and immediately release it ..... I quizzed him about it and he said well you could
hold it 10 minutes or so ..... seems like he only talked about 8 or 10 pumps. He is not very definitive about things.

Hey Steve....did I read 'cleared for use on Friday'? Hope all goes well! This discussion about how many pumps has me scratching my head. I don't pump anywhere near the amount you guys do. I just pumped up to confirm, but I only pump about 10 - 15 times. I know that I have an LGX 21cm - no extenders. I also do very complete pumps - squeeze till the pump is totally flat and empty, but just now, I was having difficulty finishing the 10th pump. Typically what I think I do is when I get to about 10 pumps and cannot completely empty the bulb, then I do a series of partial pumps, but only maybe 5 or so, and get to a point where I don't think I am able to get more saline in. One thing I find, is that 5 or 10 minutes later, I am able to get a few more pumps in and can feel and see a little more expansion and hardness. I have never been quite sure if this is because some of the saline has leaked backwards past the valve, or more likely - that the cylinders relax and can accommodate a little more fluid after a few minutes. Possibly I am also starting with a little more saline already inside too - I don't like to empty to extreme flacid because it starts to kink a bit. One other thing.... how exactly do you guys measure length? There is a lot of room for variation here. I have read that some guys press the ruler firmly against their pubic bone. I have never done it this way - I have always measured length - from the top side of my penis first of all - and just gently placed the ruler measuring from the base. When I measure this way, my 21cm implant gives me a 5.0" hard on. I also remember reading that on the total implant length, typically 2/3 is outside, and 1/3 is inside.

nuguy2-

Sounds like your doc didn't give you any more explicit instructions than mine did. I was told to pump for 10 minutes for 4 weeks and then have sex, but not how many pumps to do, or if I should pump beyond 4 weeks. I said I'd probably do it more than once a day and he said OK just don't so it 7 or 8 times so I'm doing an hour instead. It seems to be working well. It's made a big difference I think. Are you just doing the 10 minutes a day? I hope that gets you where you want to go. I'm new to this too...

Good luck to you,
Steve

Hey Glenn/hoseboy,

Yep you heard right! I'm legal to have sex this friday, so we'll see what happens this weekend, or sooner.... To be honest I did cheat a couple of weeks ago and we did it once, but I hurt the next day so I've waited the rest of the time my doc said to wait till the next time. It was great tho and I can't wait to do it again. After all this is why we're doing all this stuff isn't it?

As for all the measuring stuff and sizing and all, it does seem a bit obsessive to me. I've decided to just go to 30 pumps twice a day now and let it rest at that. I get just as hard as I do with 75 so why do so many pumps? Is it really necessary in order to stretch it out? It seems that 30 would do it in time and I'm patient, mostly.... I've been measuring bone pressed and when I lay the ruler on my cock like you do I'm a bit less than 5”, but when I press bone deep I come out at almost 5 1/2” so it does make a big difference. But is that extra all “useable“ length or just what is there? I noticed I was smaller when I had sex and so did my partner, but we both agree it's still fine so if it's 5” or 5 1/2” it's all relative to satistfaction I guess, eh? I'd like to gain whatever girth I can get still tho and it seems like it'll get more according to the AMS rep. I just dunno how long it'll take.

I'm still curious about how long you pumped after the surgery. Are you still doing it for exercise or have you stopped it now and just inflate it for sex and that's enough? I'm certainly willing to do the exercises as long as they're useful but I haven't really heard any time line for how long it takes to get full expansion of the cylinders. I guess it's similar for all of us but each implant may have differences I suppose. I admit it turns me on to do it every day and I've been using some creme on my dick to make it hurt less which feels good and is erotic and is helping with pain some too. But I'll be glad when I stop hurting so much. That's why sex this weekend will be gentle and tender, as it was the first time... Wish me luck....

Thanks again for writing me and sharing your advice and knowledge. I hope your life is treating you well.
All the best,
Steve

My doctor said to pump daily for 3 months after that cycle once a week if you don't use. That was for AMS CX 700

nuguy2-

Thanks for the info on a timeline. I've been pumping for 4 weeks now and so I guess I have another couple of months to go. I appreciate hearing some guidelines. Thanks again.

Best to you,
Steve

The CX only expands in girth, not in length. So I don't know how you got increased length by pumping. Are you sure you don't have the LGX, which does increase in both length and girth?

I only need 10 pumps to get my CX to full expansion and ready for action. I suspect that the last 60 or more of your 75 pumps are not doing anything. If the cyclinders get totally full, the pump ball will depress but no fluid will actually transfer. But I still don't know how you got extra length so I am just guessing. If 75 is working for you, you may be onto something.

Dave