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Fixing Each Others Mistakes?
Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2017 6:48 pm
by DaveKell
I had my visit with Dallas, TX uro Dr. Allen Morey today. As part of my questioning I asked him about two members here who needed revision surgery after he implanted them. He wasn't the least taken aback by it. I had already brought up Kramer, Eid and Perito in conversation. He told me he has done revisions on Kramer and Eid patients too. Apparently when you do hundreds of these a year you're bound to have a few go south. He said he is personal friends with Kramer and Eid, who he kept referring to as Francois, and he told me they are both in teaching settings and often only supervise implants also. The criticism I got about Morey is that residents in training actually do his surgery. Apparently more than a few guys have been implanted by a different doctor than they thought was doing it. I'm not opposed to this. Hell, even the Big Three at one time did their first implant. Dr. Morey knows the outcome I am expecting now though. He told me he would use a 3 piece AMS implant. Just waiting now for them to get insurance approval.
Re: Fixing Each Others Mistakes?
Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2017 7:15 pm
by Tybeeman
Dave, Some time when you have a conversation with your doctor like that it give them more of an incentive to pay more attention to yours. You will be fine. We all make mistakes, but it is the good ones that will jump in there and take responsibility for a mistake and help you get it right. That is all we can ask. I am going to be implanted in less than a week now and its not one of the big 3.
Re: Fixing Each Others Mistakes?
Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2017 8:42 pm
by ThePlumber1964
Well said, Tybeeman, well said.
Re: Fixing Each Others Mistakes?
Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2017 8:43 pm
by williamb
My first implant was by a well respected doctor in Houston who told me that he does not want students doing anything at all in the operating room, he does all of the surgery. Well, he failed big time on mine, did it so it was almost unusable. I had it revised (repaired) by Dr Kramer and he did a great job. Any good surgeon can do a great job or have a failure, but the way they handle the failure separates the professionals from the asinine doctors. My 1st doctor was an arrogant ass, Dr Kramer is quite a gentleman in my book.
Dave
Re: Fixing Each Others Mistakes?
Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2017 2:00 pm
by DaveKell
Dr. Morey did the same thing the first uro did years ago that made me back out of an implant then. He gently pulled my flaccid dick out along a ruler and told the guy taking notes "12.5 cm's" and to me said "that squarely puts you in the range of average size". He didn't seem to pay any attention when I said my morning hard ons are bigger than that. I have to admit I am once again very concerned about loss of length. "Frankly" I've seen some dick pics posted here that I'd be embarassed to be left with. ABSOLUTELY no offense intended towards anyone. I know a working 4 incher is preferable to a dead 6 inches! Also am aware it isn't the size of the boat but the motion in the ocean! Still, he said he'd use an AMS CX for me and told me it will get me "plenty hard". I can't find any remarks here about a CX preserving length. Damn this is a hard decision. He also said Medicare might not cover the implant until I'm 65 in 9 more months. The only hope I have is the Humana Medicare Advantage I have. IF I decide to do this I don't want to wait 9 more months! Would rather be routinely screwing in another couple months!!!!
Re: Fixing Each Others Mistakes?
Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2017 2:21 pm
by David_R
DaveKell wrote:He also said Medicare might not cover the implant until I'm 65 in 9 more months.
When my first implant gave out in the spring of 2014 (after 12 years), I was going on Medicare when I turned 65 in September. I asked my urologist if we could wait till then to put in a replacement and he said it was fine. With Medicare and supplemental insurance it
definitely was worth the wait money-wise.
Re: Fixing Each Others Mistakes?
Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2017 2:58 pm
by ThePlumber1964
If you are elegible for Medicare, either due to age or due to disability, it will cover it. Any advantage plan MUST cover, at a minimum, what Medicare covers or more. That is the law. However, It is up to your surgeon to demonstrate that it is a medical necessity.
Re: Fixing Each Others Mistakes?
Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2017 4:11 pm
by warrenw
ThePlumber1964 wrote:Any advantage plan MUST cover, at a minimum, what Medicare covers or more.
But the advantage plan may not cover your surgeon of choice. For example Kramer takes traditional Medicare, but he's likely outside of network for most advantage plans. Someone planning for an implant in their future might want to switch to traditional Medicare for that year so they have the full spectrum of surgeons available.
Re: Fixing Each Others Mistakes?
Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2017 4:19 pm
by ThePlumber1964
You are correct; the plan determines the network of physicians and hospitals, unless you have a Supplement one.
Re: Fixing Each Others Mistakes?
Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2017 4:23 pm
by Larry10625
williamb wrote:My first implant was by a well respected doctor in Houston who told me that he does not want students doing anything at all in the operating room, he does all of the surgery. Well, he failed big time on mine, did it so it was almost unusable. I had it revised (repaired) by Dr Kramer and he did a great job. Any good surgeon can do a great job or have a failure, but the way they handle the failure separates the professionals from the asinine doctors. My 1st doctor was an arrogant ass, Dr Kramer is quite a gentleman in my book.
Dave
Now, how in the hell are the students going to learn anything if they just stand there and watch. A good teacher teaches, he/she does not do.
Larry