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Operations of AMS

Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2018 7:43 am
by Larry10625
Hi guys;

I was just wondering if, after inflating, if you can just let a little out or do you have to fully deflate and the re-inflate. :? :?

Larry

Re: Operations of AMS

Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2018 8:43 am
by David_R
My experience has been that when having to stop with only a partial inflation (for whatever the reason -- phone call, door bell, etc.), I have to completely deflate and then start over. My assumption is this is because of the anti-accidental inflating mechanism that starts working when I stop pumping -- just a guess on my part though.

Re: Operations of AMS

Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2018 1:13 pm
by Lost Sheep
Larry10625 wrote:Hi guys;

I was just wondering if, after inflating, if you can just let a little out or do you have to fully deflate and the re-inflate. :? :?

Larry

I have been experimenting with my late 2017 model AMS LGX's pump. The deflation valve (conrary to the instructions) does allow for partial deflation. The instructions say to hold the valve button down for a certain length of time .., 4 to 7 seconds ... to set the valve for deflation. Not true for my device,

My device's valve may be different-I do not have access to the engineering drawings.

Here are my observations:

Inflate to a partial erection. Press the valve as deepky as possible and feel for a click. (The click may be covered up by the turbulent vibration of seflating fron a fully pumped state.)
That click, I surmise, is the valve "setting" itself to deflation mode.

If you deoress the button only partway, you can stop deflation at any point and NOT have to deflate fully.

In any event, even if you do "set" the valve to deflate mode, you don't have to deflate fully to re-initiate inflation. From a partially deflated state, you just pump the bulb again as if from a fully deflated state and reset the valve for inflation. That is, you can initiate inflation from any state - fully deflated, a little bit deflated, half deflated, or nearly full.

So, the short answer to the original question is, you can partially deflate an
AMS device (at least, I can, with mine) simply by partially depressing the deflate button ONLY PARTWAY DEPRESSED. Releasing the button stops the deflation and leaves you in a partiwpally inflated state with the valve still set to continue inflation.

Re: Operations of AMS

Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2018 2:12 pm
by Larry10625
Lost Sheep wrote:
Larry10625 wrote:Hi guys;

I was just wondering if, after inflating, if you can just let a little out or do you have to fully deflate and the re-inflate. :? :?

Larry

I have been experimenting with my late 2017 model AMS LGX's pump. The deflation valve (conrary to the instructions) does allow for partial deflation. The instructions say to hold the valve button down for a certain length of time .., 4 to 7 seconds ... to set the valve for deflation. Not true for my device,

My device's valve may be different-I do not have access to the engineering drawings.

Here are my observations:

Inflate to a partial erection. Press the valve as deepky as possible and feel for a click. (The click may be covered up by the turbulent vibration of seflating fron a fully pumped state.)
That click, I surmise, is the valve "setting" itself to deflation mode.

If you deoress the button only partway, you can stop deflation at any point and NOT have to deflate fully.

In any event, even if you do "set" the valve to deflate mode, you don't have to deflate fully to re-initiate inflation. From a partially deflated state, you just pump the bulb again as if from a fully deflated state and reset the valve for inflation. That is, you can initiate inflation from any state - fully deflated, a little bit deflated, half deflated, or nearly full.

So, the short answer to the original question is, you can partially deflate an
AMS device (at least, I can, with mine) simply by partially depressing the deflate button ONLY PARTWAY DEPRESSED. Releasing the button stops the deflation and leaves you in a partiwpally inflated state with the valve still set to continue inflation.



Thanks Sheep, I will try that.

Larry

Re: Operations of AMS

Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2018 2:16 pm
by ThePlumber1964
Agree 100% with LostSheep. Based on my experience of 3 AMS pumps, if the button is just partially pressed, you have full control over the amount of deflation attained.

Re: Operations of AMS

Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2018 12:43 pm
by Donnie1954
My AMS will not fully deflate if the button on pump does not set. If it is not set the pump will not 'pop' to activate the pump. If the pump doesn't set there is an open valve and partial inflation is possible. When the pump sets there should be no partial inflation.
Donnie

Re: Operations of AMS

Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2018 6:40 pm
by ocitgo
Photo from my operating instructions

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Re: Operations of AMS

Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2018 7:24 pm
by Lost Sheep
ocitgo wrote:Photo from my operating instructions

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Ys, I have the same instruction.

My AMS Patient LIason says the 4 seconds is wrong. It is more like 7 secionds, he says.

My experimental results say that both time factors are wrong. The depth of depressing the button is the factor, not the time. Depressing the button for a length of time WORKS for most because depressing for a long time lets you reach the linear depth necessary to reset the valve to deflation.

It irritates me that the Patient Liaisons do not understand the internal operations of their own product, but such is the world we live in. So many times, we are on our own.

LS

Re: Operations of AMS

Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2018 10:09 am
by Larry10625
Lost Sheep wrote:
ocitgo wrote:Photo from my operating instructions

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Ys, I have the same instruction.

My AMS Patient LIason says the 4 seconds is wrong. It is more like 7 secionds, he says.

My experimental results say that both time factors are wrong. The depth of depressing the button is the factor, not the time. Depressing the button for a length of time WORKS for most because depressing for a long time lets you reach the linear depth necessary to reset the valve to deflation.

It irritates me that the Patient Liaisons do not understand the internal operations of their own product, but such is the world we live in. So many times, we are on our own.

LS



Thanks very much everybody, I appreciate all your input. I only really asked so I can back off a little, if I pump too hard for her comfort. :)

Larry

Re: Operations of AMS

Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2018 2:20 pm
by Jamesbond
Please tell me they don't put the key-ring inside.
But if Dr can leave it hanging out I don't think I will lose my keys again.