How are the 3 piece cylinder measured?

[Gt1956]

I know, WhiteCane. I am not putting in question de fact that with time, people recover at least good part of size lost. I have seen here and in blogs, articles, etc.

My doubts are about the technical explanation. You see, I am engineer, scientifist, and I need a rational explanation to every fact in my life. And I cannot understand the compatibility between the facts (with time and cyclyng, pennis recover size) and the theory (size of cylinders is fixed and cannot grow).



Is just that.

I would suggest that the AMS implant material stretches in both directions. So a 20% growth in diameter would produce less total fabric growth than the 20% would provide in length.
Somewhere in this is an explanation that makes sense, we just don't know what it is.
Maybe the tunica limits the diameter growth at some point but a lack of similar body tissue in length allows a bit more implant stretch.
I understand your search for a logical explanation. I'm just guessing that the answer lies in some aspect of the material & how the material stretches in the 2 different directions.

[WhiteCane]

Oh, I get it now… yep, makes absolutely no sense when you look at it like that LOL... i’ve stated before, I’m very curious as to how everything is going to add up. Mathematically, it makes absolutely no sense… hope you are well, my friend!

[Lost Sheep]

I know, WhiteCane. I am not putting in question de fact that with time, people recover at least good part of size lost. I have seen here and in blogs, articles, etc.

My doubts are about the technical explanation. You see, I am engineer, scientifist, and I need a rational explanation to every fact in my life. And I cannot understand the compatibility between the facts (with time and cyclyng, pennis recover size) and the theory (size of cylinders is fixed and cannot grow).



Is just that.

I would suggest that the AMS implant material stretches in both directions. So a 20% growth in diameter would produce less total fabric growth than the 20% would provide in length.
Somewhere in this is an explanation that makes sense, we just don't know what it is.
Maybe the tunica limits the diameter growth at some point but a lack of similar body tissue in length allows a bit more implant stretch.
I understand your search for a logical explanation. I'm just guessing that the answer lies in some aspect of the material & how the material stretches in the 2 different directions.

It's the weave.

As I understand it:

AMS CX and LGX devices are woven of Dacron thread (the same stuff sails are made of), which does not stretch (like nylon thread does). They are covered with medical-grade silicone, of course, for impermeability. The CX's weave does not permit any significant length expansion. The LGX's weave is on a bias and does allow limited expansion in length. I am unclear on girth.

And I cannot understand the compatibility between the facts (with time and cyclyng, pennis recover size) and the theory (size of cylinders is fixed and cannot grow).

I will venture a guess that with all implants, the uninflated state puts no tension on the tissues of the penis (principally thinking about the tunica albuginea), but when the implant is inflated, a tiny amount of lengthening does take place. On the order of millimeters/fractions of inches, which, over time because this is living tissue, the tunica grows or stretches. Ultimately the implant does not get any lengthier...until a revision is warranted (implant failure, usually). At that time, a longer implant being fitted is not uncommon. That "lengthening" of which I write may be the material (no material I know of has a zero modulus of elasticity), or could be the straightening of minute folds or crinkles (accordion-like folds) in the material. Just my guess, but it does give you something upon which to cogitate.

[oneperson]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rX4XlIcMYCw

Interview to Dr Eid, talking about Coloplast Titan:

1:30: 'Material, the Bio Flex is very durable. The device is tunica dependent. In other words, it will continue to expand all the way to the tunica albuginea, it is not limited by the mesh that would limit its expansion, so patients will get a much firmer erection.'

So if I understand, if pennis tissue expand, and tunica expands, the cylinders will expand too. That would explain the grow in lenght and girth with cycling.

[merrix]

Yes David, but is a kind of contradictory: if implant cannot grow in length, how is it possible to gain length? My pennis is now about 9 cm flaccid, and 9,8 fully erected, which according with documentation and brother posts, is the maximum capacity of cylinders. How is possible to recover more lenght if cylinders don't grow in length?

You and others tell that with time it is achieved. The question is how?

Totally understand you. I want facts, nubers, logic as well to accept something.
One simple fact is that if you a 21 cm total length implant, a 9.8 cm inflated dick would make you an extreme outlier. Sure, there are outliers as well, and you might be one of them. But likely not.
Assuming you are like most and have 2/3 of you implant in your dick, you would have 14 cm in your dick. if your tips go to 1 cm from your glans' tip, you would have a 15 cm dick. If you are like me, you will have 2-3 cm difference between flaccid and inflated, so you would have a 13 cm flaccid dick.
You are a long way from that and that's a bit strange.
Two obvious explanations.
1 - you crus is extremely deep and you have much more than 1/3 of your implant in your body.
2 - you are still swollen, so your measuement is shorter now. When the swelling of your area around/above your dick goes down you will measure larger.
3 - you are very fat and a lot of your implant is inside your body because of this. Just like anybody with a very fat belly will have smaller effective dick size.

Also just want to tell you that the answer to the question "how can your dick grow with a Titan if the implant doesn't expand in length" is beyond me.
But I know it can.
Mine did. I am now almost 3 cm longer inflated than I was immediately after surgery.
Maybe, as Lost Sheep points out, the girth expansion also extends the tissue length wise.
But for sure, one reason is that a perfectly installed Titan will crinkle a bit when deflated and hence straighten (and lengthen) when inflated.
If you think I am just an exception to the rule, then look at this study:
http://www.ajandrology.com/article.asp? ... last=Pryor
it clearly shows that dicks implanted with Titans do grow in length.
This should satisfy your thirst for data and facts.
Keep pumping.

[oneperson]

Thanks merrix.

I am not fat. Instead, I am too thin.

Regarding to strecth, i think what Dr Eid says in the interview linked makes sense.

Sadly, I can''t continue pumping now. My pump has stopped working and I go under the knife again in 29th November. Until recovering of the f*****g new surgery, I cannot pump anymore.