13 days out and ready ti jump ship

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Agfa13
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Re: 13 days out and ready ti jump ship

Postby Agfa13 » Fri Dec 20, 2019 8:16 pm

Biker60, you are right to distinguish about your body dysmorphia and an implant.
Like cialis and viagra, the only thing people see are the words, not what is behind them, no pun.
Cialis can also be used for blood pressure treatment, but because the 1st thing that comes to mind when word is said is erection, it is not covered.
Have doctor resubmit claim and in no way, shape or form, use the word implant by itself in describing your dysmorphia.
I would suggest asking if the pain from the peyronie's or potential for penile damage (which should be covered by insurance, so the company DOES have a vested interest in an implant as a preventative, prophylactic procedure) would lend support for your appeals.
Ag, 58, Maryland
Document with BEFORE/after pics
AMS cx 24cm, Titan malleable, Titan Legacy on 3/2/20 (20cm/bilat 2cm RTE/ 75 cc)
Face pic on pg. 22: names and faces; dick pics on pg 7/41: Dick of day
Smaller dick, but can fuck without fail :lol: :D

Biker60
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Re: 13 days out and ready ti jump ship

Postby Biker60 » Sat Dec 21, 2019 10:58 am

Lost Sheep wrote:
Biker60 wrote:Hello All,

Well I am 13 days out of my implant surgery. I don't know if insurance will pay, but since I have peryonies and a good 90+ degree bend I can fight my employers exclusion. I work for a 5 hospital healthcare system, that excludes implants, but not body dysmorphia, or 50K in fertility treatments. But anything for sexual enhancement well, forget that. So I will pay and appeal. I have like 4 appeal levels, and concern is this implant goes south, how do I afford the repair.? I saved 30K for the procedure, however, I still get bent erections, can still ejaculate, penis is smaller and more narrower so blood flow is better now then when I had a 6" penis, to my 3" penis. Ok, that aside, I am really worried about the recovery phase. I have no support at home, as I am a single since wife died. I got off 3 weeks from work, so the time is now. However, the pain is a concern, I developed chronic constipation over the last few years. Hence, I don't take anything that makes that worse. My fear is the surgery and what if it does not work correctly, More surgeries.? I will be 59 next week, was healthy until this pass year. I don't even know if I can bend down to feed the cat and dog. However, I can hire a pet sitter to help with that. Did you guys have to go back to work with a inflated implant? I wear scrubs so I can get baggy ones to hide whatever. My job is more sitting at a computer then standing. Can you sit with the implants, drive? ride my bike, ever ski again? I am looking for every reason to not go thru with this. I am supposed to get a titan genesis. I will spend one night in the hospital which is ok, since I don't have anyone to help when I get home. Last depressing fact, 1 to 3% of all people that go under anesthesia die. Only 9 to 10% of the male population has peyronies. I do have that, and don't expect to die, but it happens. So if anyone cares to tell me why I should go thru with this, please let me know, Sorry for the venting. Nerves are taking over at this point.

So sorry about the passing of your wife. The support and encouragement of a good woman is very helpful in maintaining one's perspective.

Remember why you are doing this (which I assume is more for pain {from the payronie's} relief and for self-image than hope of sexual performance. However, you are not yet 60 and the potential for a second marriage or relationship is significant.

I would suggest asking if the pain from the peyronie's or potential for penile damage (which should be covered by insurance, so the company DOES have a vested interest in an implant as a preventative, prophylactic procedure) would lend support for your appeals.

Having a personal care attendant is a boon (I had my girlfriend stay with me and she took care of all the household duties so I could stay horizontal). Having someone come in to take care of the pets is a good idea, if only for the litter box(es), though if you maintain good hygiene, infection potential is minimal, but given the potential consequences, care is to be exercised.

Nerves? I never had any. I knew in my heart of hearts it was the right decision. Not only for my self-image but for my future relationship(s).

Note: I keep my cats' litter boxes on a platform, so I don't have to bend down for them.


Thank you for making realize that peyronies hurts. Just last night watching tv and flacid penis was just aching all over. Its the same pain I had when I started with pd. Xiaflex only maybe possibly destroyed some plaque in the base, which was not worth 40K. or the pain and hematoma that followed last injection. Thank you for reminding me about the pd, never forgot, but had no surgery in 10 years. Thanks for the platform idea, .

Biker60
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Re: 13 days out and ready ti jump ship

Postby Biker60 » Sat Dec 21, 2019 11:40 am

Agfa13 wrote:Biker60, you are right to distinguish about your body dysmorphia and an implant.
Like cialis and viagra, the only thing people see are the words, not what is behind them, no pun.
Cialis can also be used for blood pressure treatment, but because the 1st thing that comes to mind when word is said is erection, it is not covered.
Have doctor resubmit claim and in no way, shape or form, use the word implant by itself in describing your dysmorphia.
I would suggest asking if the pain from the peyronie's or potential for penile damage (which should be covered by insurance, so the company DOES have a vested interest in an implant as a preventative, prophylactic procedure) would lend support for your appeals.



That is what happened when I went to a the high volume gods, they sent in a pre determination without medical need. Aetna indicated in the letter, cannot cover because if exclusion. But the letter, mentioned, sending in more details to prove otherwise. I latter found out Aetna had no diagnosis code, or med records at all. I found it strange when High volume, long distant implant surgeon canceled my ultra sound. That is a tool to diagnose PD, and ED. So bottom line he was not giving me the diagnoses, he was providing implants. He accepts my say so, that I had PD. Well moving forward, new surgeon has primary diagnoses as PD and ED. Implants for PD are only recommended with ED as well. Or that is a criteria . I think Aetna requires 1 cycle of xiaflex as well. So regardless, I am going for it. My Aetna is self funded and does not require prior auth. It the employer is is excluding it. But not no mention off PD, so I need this to be a claim so I can be appealed if denied. Aetna itself sees implants as a med nec in PD. I want a exclusion exception and that is what Aetna said to request. I am having this done at a Hospital that is part of an Ivy league University system. Surgeon is Dept chair of Urology. According to health grades, he does penile implants 79% more then his peers. He is also an employee, so the money is not the driving force for the procedure. He also, has published 17 articles in various journals in the field of urology. Bottom line, I have 4 appeal levels, the last being my employer. So, in order to appeal, it has to be a claim. Either way, I saved my 30K. Maybe things will go my way, and this will be covered and 2020, starts off on a positive note.

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Re: 13 days out and ready ti jump ship

Postby Biker60 » Sat Dec 21, 2019 1:49 pm

Thanks guys for your words of support

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Re: 13 days out and ready ti jump ship

Postby Agfa13 » Sat Dec 21, 2019 3:57 pm

Good to hear. I think you have done your research and know what you have to do. You have come this far, just have to go a little farther.
For me, if I keep my present insurance, in order for them to cover implant I plan on doing, I have to pay the copays as well as max. deductible, another $6K for me
Ag, 58, Maryland
Document with BEFORE/after pics
AMS cx 24cm, Titan malleable, Titan Legacy on 3/2/20 (20cm/bilat 2cm RTE/ 75 cc)
Face pic on pg. 22: names and faces; dick pics on pg 7/41: Dick of day
Smaller dick, but can fuck without fail :lol: :D

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Re: 13 days out and ready ti jump ship

Postby Waynetho » Sat Dec 21, 2019 5:18 pm

Agfa13 wrote:Good to hear. I think you have done your research and know what you have to do. You have come this far, just have to go a little farther.
For me, if I keep my present insurance, in order for them to cover implant I plan on doing, I have to pay the copays as well as max. deductible, another $6K for me


Advice: At open enrollment (unless already passed for next year), get a Flexible Spending Account with debit card and set the paycheck contributions to as much as permitted by the IRS. My open-enrollment isn't until Feb for the 4/1 thru 3/31 insurance year so if I think I'll need a revision, I'll be doing that.

The total amount to be added over the next year is available from day-1 on the account.
62yo, married 41 yrs. Urolift (x4) 8/12/19. AMS 700CX 15cm (no RTE) penoscrotal 10/28/19, Frisco, TX. PD 1995/ED 2011. Cialis helped but hinged. (1995)L:6/G:5.5+, (2019)Pre-op L:5/G:4.5, (2/2020)L:6.0/G:5.0

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Re: 13 days out and ready ti jump ship

Postby Txagq8 » Sat Dec 21, 2019 7:39 pm

Well, I’m just 48 hours ahead of you on the bionicization conveyor belt. I’m doing pretty much ok with some of the encouraging words I’ve gotten in my thread on same subject.

Promise: check this thread New Years Day. I promise to pass along any buyers remorse the day after. I doubt I have any. The more Ive thought, the angrier I’ve been that a vascular issue sentenced me to 45ish years of impotence without parole, except for sketchy Hardons delivered by pills and/or shots. To hell with that, I’m ready for the big leagues.

My surgeon had best be ready to deliver. Property tax records are online in Texas, so it’s easy to find out where he lives. (Jk)

Good luck to both of us, but I’m not betting on luck. This hand is a sure thing.
Age 68. Physically fit educated red neck in Texas. Very married. 23 cm (18+5) of LGX installed by Dr. Bryan Kansas 12/31/2019. I fought the ED and my wife & I won. I’m either full of shit or sound advice. You decide which.

Biker60
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Re: 13 days out and ready ti jump ship

Postby Biker60 » Mon Dec 30, 2019 1:45 am

Thank you for your words of support. I am scheduled 1/2, work is scheduled off for 3 weeks. I am in. I found a impressive surgeon in a major city teaching hospital. The Dr is the head of the dept. spent over 90 mins going over everything. I am satisfied that this will be a success. Thanks all

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Re: 13 days out and ready ti jump ship

Postby spirit » Tue Dec 31, 2019 11:49 am

Good luck! I wish you a speedy recovery.
58 YO, Married, T1 Diabetes, 5'10". 160. Stage-fright ED for years, did fine with pills, Penis Fracture in 2016 ended ALL erections. Used VED for 4 months prior to surgery. Implanted with 20cm Titan on 12/11/2019.


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