I've placed a lot into the penile injections working. Without detail, I was celibate for over 15 years with the belief that I would be single for the rest of my life. Therapy changed my outlook and I dated and now I have a girlfriend. She knows all about my health issues. We agreed to try injections, as oral medication failed.
I went to my first appointment Wednesday. I injected .1 (10 hash marks) of (PAPAV/PHENTO/PG E-1 25MG/0.8MG/8 MCG/ML). I apologize if this isn't the normal nomenclature. I'm learning. I was expecting something, anything to happen. Zero, nothing, no change. I immediately panicked. What if the shots don't work, what is this is it for my sex life etc. etc.
Tonight I am injecting .2 (20 marks) to see what happens. This time my girlfriend will be there. I am usually not this freaked out, but I am so worried that after 15 years of nothing that my body is broken and I can't be helped.
Questions:
1) Is it common to get no reaction at all to your first dose?
2) Am I worrying too early in the process?
3) Is there an average working dose?
4) How do I know when it's time to get back to the doctor (I was told .4 or .5).
5) Am I overreacting?
Thanks for your help, this forum has been so helpful in the past. I don't want to do this, but I am forced to do this if I want intimacy with my girlfriend.
Thank you
First shot, disappointed
Re: First shot, disappointed
I'm not a medical professional of any kind. Anything I post is based on my own experiences at best and hallucinations or delusions at worst. Any advice found on an internet forum is likely worth what you paid for it, or worse. Always ask your doctor and follow his/her advice.
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Was your first dose done in your doctors office by him or under his supervision? Hopefully it was. Injection technique is important.
On U-100 Insulin syringes, which is what it sounds like you have, each 1/100 of a 1ml syringe is commonly referred to as a unit. So, you did 10 units and plan on doing 20 units.
It's way too early to panic, assuming it's ever time to panic. In most cases I'd say involving your girlfriend before you have the dose worked out is a bad idea as it just adds to the stress. I'd normally recommend going solo until you get it worked out. That said, some women can be very casual, relaxed and fun with the experiment and actually make things better. Just make it clear up front that you're experimenting at this point and success with the trial is unlikely and she should just enjoy the experiment. You can reward her by some alternative method.
1) I don't know about common but it does happen.
2) Most definitely.
3) I don't really think so. Mixes and doses vary a lot.
4) Whatever the doctor told you. If he said .4 or .5 then that's what I'd go with.
5) Yes.
Yes, sticking a needle in my dick isn't my favorite thing to do but hey, it works.
Edited: Got rid of unnecessary quote.
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Was your first dose done in your doctors office by him or under his supervision? Hopefully it was. Injection technique is important.
On U-100 Insulin syringes, which is what it sounds like you have, each 1/100 of a 1ml syringe is commonly referred to as a unit. So, you did 10 units and plan on doing 20 units.
It's way too early to panic, assuming it's ever time to panic. In most cases I'd say involving your girlfriend before you have the dose worked out is a bad idea as it just adds to the stress. I'd normally recommend going solo until you get it worked out. That said, some women can be very casual, relaxed and fun with the experiment and actually make things better. Just make it clear up front that you're experimenting at this point and success with the trial is unlikely and she should just enjoy the experiment. You can reward her by some alternative method.
1) I don't know about common but it does happen.
2) Most definitely.
3) I don't really think so. Mixes and doses vary a lot.
4) Whatever the doctor told you. If he said .4 or .5 then that's what I'd go with.
5) Yes.
Yes, sticking a needle in my dick isn't my favorite thing to do but hey, it works.
Edited: Got rid of unnecessary quote.
Last edited by bldoink on Fri Jan 17, 2020 6:52 pm, edited 1 time in total.
R.R.P 2011 Mayo Jacksonville, Dr. M. Wehle. Not nerve sparing. C in margins. Radiation 2023, V.E.D, Viagra and PGE-1 (80mcg/ml) injections @ 8 - 14 units. Originally Edex20, then compounded PGE due to cost. Inject. 12 yrs. It works. Treasure coast of FL.
Re: First shot, disappointed
When I had my Doppler ultrasound done on my penis to check for VL (venous leak) the nurse injected me and said it may take 20 minutes to get erect. Some guys less time.
I never got hard just big and full. Ultrasound done VL demonstrated. Scheduled for an implant. In preop prepped and about to be taken in to OR, doctor comes in says my WBC lab results are high, may have infection and surgery cancelled! Antibiotics for a month recheck and reschedule implant after 30 days.
During this period I started reading more about injections. Found another clinic that specializes in men’s health, ED, and went to get second opinion.
They did ultrasound and said they thought they could help me with injection.
Got the injection, held pressure on injection site 5 minutes and rubbed penis. 8 minutes it’s rising, they had me walk around the room, at 12 minute mark I was rock, I’m talking skin stretching hard. They continued to check me every 15 minutes to see how it was doing. At an hour still rock hard. They said I had to stay until it started going down for my safety, priapism isn’t something they wanted me to end up with. At 90 minutes it started down and I left. But the walk to the car got it stirred up again! An hour and a half later it started down. I said all of that to say this. During the time in the clinic I asked a lot of questions. First, there’s lots of different formulas for Trimix. They said the one I was given before my first Doppler was probably the lowest dose that doctor had. The dose they gave me, they upped all of the three meds based on what I told them of first injection. Their formula worked big time! So, I returned to my urologist, told him what I had done with the other clinic. Surprisingly he wasn’t upset at losing my implant surgery! He prescribed another dose to test in the office with a high formula. He thought 3 hours was pushing it for erection. He injected me and it got hard hard again, but only for and hour. He instructed me to use 15 units at home and if that worked great. If it wasn’t firm enough go up no more than 5 more units. Find the sweet spot that works with the dosing. He said that if I never got to the pint I needed 50 units, he would changed the formula to higher drug concentration to reduce the mount need per injection.
I think you haven’t found the right mix, hopefully! And when you do you’ll be so mentally and emotionally relieved. Best of luck to you.
I never got hard just big and full. Ultrasound done VL demonstrated. Scheduled for an implant. In preop prepped and about to be taken in to OR, doctor comes in says my WBC lab results are high, may have infection and surgery cancelled! Antibiotics for a month recheck and reschedule implant after 30 days.
During this period I started reading more about injections. Found another clinic that specializes in men’s health, ED, and went to get second opinion.
They did ultrasound and said they thought they could help me with injection.
Got the injection, held pressure on injection site 5 minutes and rubbed penis. 8 minutes it’s rising, they had me walk around the room, at 12 minute mark I was rock, I’m talking skin stretching hard. They continued to check me every 15 minutes to see how it was doing. At an hour still rock hard. They said I had to stay until it started going down for my safety, priapism isn’t something they wanted me to end up with. At 90 minutes it started down and I left. But the walk to the car got it stirred up again! An hour and a half later it started down. I said all of that to say this. During the time in the clinic I asked a lot of questions. First, there’s lots of different formulas for Trimix. They said the one I was given before my first Doppler was probably the lowest dose that doctor had. The dose they gave me, they upped all of the three meds based on what I told them of first injection. Their formula worked big time! So, I returned to my urologist, told him what I had done with the other clinic. Surprisingly he wasn’t upset at losing my implant surgery! He prescribed another dose to test in the office with a high formula. He thought 3 hours was pushing it for erection. He injected me and it got hard hard again, but only for and hour. He instructed me to use 15 units at home and if that worked great. If it wasn’t firm enough go up no more than 5 more units. Find the sweet spot that works with the dosing. He said that if I never got to the pint I needed 50 units, he would changed the formula to higher drug concentration to reduce the mount need per injection.
I think you haven’t found the right mix, hopefully! And when you do you’ll be so mentally and emotionally relieved. Best of luck to you.
Diagnosed venous leak. Going with injections rather than implant for the time being.
Re: First shot, disappointed
My first 20 injections were for the most part failures... I think doctor figures hey waited 15 years already whats another 6 months. My first script was 16/0.58/17 started at 10 units got to 60 still not good enough got a stronger formula 45/1/27. Started 20 then 25 then 30 ..35. Then 40 lift off that my story. And i now backed down to 38 units but took months to get to the finish line
edex and tri mix 45/1/27 26 units
Re: First shot, disappointed
Ratt19 wrote:I've placed a lot into the penile injections working. Without detail, I was celibate for over 15 years with the belief that I would be single for the rest of my life. Therapy changed my outlook and I dated and now I have a girlfriend. She knows all about my health issues. We agreed to try injections, as oral medication failed.
I went to my first appointment Wednesday. I injected .1 (10 hash marks) of (PAPAV/PHENTO/PG E-1 25MG/0.8MG/8 MCG/ML). I apologize if this isn't the normal nomenclature. I'm learning. I was expecting something, anything to happen. Zero, nothing, no change. I immediately panicked. What if the shots don't work, what is this is it for my sex life etc. etc.
Tonight I am injecting .2 (20 marks) to see what happens. This time my girlfriend will be there. I am usually not this freaked out, but I am so worried that after 15 years of nothing that my body is broken and I can't be helped.
Questions:
1) Is it common to get no reaction at all to your first dose?
2) Am I worrying too early in the process?
3) Is there an average working dose?
4) How do I know when it's time to get back to the doctor (I was told .4 or .5).
5) Am I overreacting?
Thanks for your help, this forum has been so helpful in the past. I don't want to do this, but I am forced to do this if I want intimacy with my girlfriend.
Thank you
1. Yes. It's an entirely shoot in the dark, mostly blind, wild ass estimate. Means very little in the bigger picture.
2. Massive understatement, yes.
3. No. Not remotely. What works for an individual runs an insanely wide bell curve of possible doses and drug concentrations. Nearly limitless blends. If you don't find you have the information or the access to a very wide variety of mixes, you're with the wrong pharmacy and potentially the wrong physician.
4. You can inject up to 100 units (or, 1ml) per injection. This is about a functional consideration of the physical dimensions of the space in your penis into which you're injecting. When you're approaching that limit (of volume...not drug concentration/potency) then you need to look at the next mix upward, ie, higher relative potencies dissolved in less total volume).
5. Wildly. Yes. But it's ok, we all overreact at some point dealing with ED.
There's a shit ton of extremely helpful, honest, practical (and, often, extremely calming) information here. Use the search function and dig in hard. As a general theme, you'll see that injections are (mostly) capable of producing very long duration, very firm erections, but with the caveat that they do require frequent scrutiny as to the constituent drugs in your mix, their relative concentrations, the total volume of drug injected, and the injection site selection. None of this is self-evident or ready-to-go...it's a big world of trial and error. You'll very likely find your way to that first steel girder multi-hour hardon; when you do, you'll be hooked.
Good luck. Assertively adjust. And message me if your compounding pharmacy don't strike you as complete experts, I'm happy to share the info on the pharmacy I used to use when I injected. The guy who runs it is sort of the godfather of Trimix, was involved in its coming to market, and is a sexual chemist extraordinaire, he'll help you and he'll help your physician get up to speed probably, too.
54 yrs. Blessed with highly sexual 52 yr old wife. Pills 10 years, then 9 yrs Trimix. 28 cm Titan Touch XL 2019, Laurence Levine, Rush Univ Med Ctr, Chicago. Implant = nonstop fun. Hypogonadal, so also 10+ years testosterone replacement.
Re: First shot, disappointed
My first injection, in the Dr's office for a doppler, gave me only a slight chubby. He wrote a Trimix script, little effect. Second script, better, but not usable. Third, almost to usable hard. It wasn't until the fourth prescription strength that it worked, and it worked incredibly well. Wonderful, usable erection for over 2 hours. Keep working with your doctor. I know it's frustrating, and can be expensive as in my case where insurance covers office visits but not medication for boners. Just had to keep at it, keep after the doctor, and finally got to where I wanted/needed to be. You can do it too. Just don't panic.
20 years of severe Peyronie's plaque, 90 curve, hinging and ED. Cost me 1.5" L and 1" G.
Implanted 2/18/21, AMS CX, 18 CM + 3 RTE, penoscrotal. Have gained 3/4". Gay, married, age 68.
Implanted 2/18/21, AMS CX, 18 CM + 3 RTE, penoscrotal. Have gained 3/4". Gay, married, age 68.
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