Is lockout valve bad if you slightly inflate again?

[Lost Sheep]

I have long suspected that the instructions for locking the valve against auto-inflation are incorrect. I have determined that the instructions for operating the deflate function are wrong by careful experimentation on implant. I have run preliminary experiments on the lockout procedure and have not formed a firm conclusion yet, but indications are that the advice to give the inflation pump a squeeze to "lock" the valve is so much nonsense.

I leave the valve in the deflate position after deflating and do not have any problem at all with auto-inflation. If I follow the "squeeze the bulb after deflation to re-set the valve", I do get autoinflation. I plan to repeat the experiment, and if the results are consistent, I will report back.

I assumed this from day one. I have on numerous occasions, fallen asleep after pumping up and then waking up overnight realizing I was still inflated, so I press the deflate button and make an attempt to squeeze out the saline before falling asleep again.

What I have found though, is that upon waking up the next morning, I can continue to squeeze out saline from the cylinders *WITHOUT* pressing the deflate button again, and the check-valve in the pump squeals as the more saline is squeezed out.

The DEFLATE button activates a check-valve (on the AMS MS pump, at least). That's why the pump squeals as fluid is transferred back to the reservoir.

Does the valve "click" at the point where I have indicated by bold-facing and underlining your description?

[Waynetho]

I assumed this from day one. I have on numerous occasions, fallen asleep after pumping up and then waking up overnight realizing I was still inflated, so I press the deflate button and make an attempt to squeeze out the saline before falling asleep again.

What I have found though, is that upon waking up the next morning, I can continue to squeeze out saline from the cylinders *WITHOUT* pressing the deflate button again, and the check-valve in the pump squeals as the more saline is squeezed out.

The DEFLATE button activates a check-valve (on the AMS MS pump, at least). That's why the pump squeals as fluid is transferred back to the reservoir.

Does the valve "click" at the point where I have indicated by bold-facing and underlining your description?

Yes it does, because I have fallen asleep with it inflated. When I "ATTEMPT" to deflate again, I only fail to complete the operation because I once again fell asleep, leaving some saline in the implant.

upon waking in the morning, there is still SOME saline in the now mostly deflated cylinders and the valve is still in the DEFLATE position. Further squeezing causes further squeal in the pump's check valve thus further deflation without pressing the deflate button again.

[Lost Sheep]

I assumed this from day one. I have on numerous occasions, fallen asleep after pumping up and then waking up overnight realizing I was still inflated, so I press the deflate button and make an attempt to squeeze out the saline before falling asleep again.

What I have found though, is that upon waking up the next morning, I can continue to squeeze out saline from the cylinders *WITHOUT* pressing the deflate button again, and the check-valve in the pump squeals as the more saline is squeezed out.

The DEFLATE button activates a check-valve (on the AMS MS pump, at least). That's why the pump squeals as fluid is transferred back to the reservoir.

Does the valve "click" at the point where I have indicated by bold-facing and underlining your description?

Yes it does, because I have fallen asleep with it inflated. When I "ATTEMPT" to deflate again, I only fail to complete the operation because I once again fell asleep, leaving some saline in the implant.

upon waking in the morning, there is still SOME saline in the now mostly deflated cylinders and the valve is still in the DEFLATE position. Further squeezing causes further squeal in the pump's check valve thus further deflation without pressing the deflate button again.

With the valve remaining in the deflate position, is there ever MORE saline in the implant than you left it?

If "No", that conforms to my experiences so far.

If "Yes", I am confused and more analysis to do.

[Waynetho]

With the valve remaining in the deflate position, is there ever MORE saline in the implant than you left it?

If "No", that conforms to my experiences so far.

If "Yes", I am confused and more analysis to do.

No, I have never experienced an increase in saline in the cylinders after deflate button was engaged. Even after my penis plumps up and gets full and round again, I have tried to get saline out (deflate button still engaged) with no success. Briefly popping the bulb and then clicking the deflate button again results in next to no saline transfer from the cylinders as well. Any tiny amount I've experienced with a "POP/DEFLATE" maneuver could be attributed to the small amount of saline that is transferred to the cylinder during the POP of the bulb.

[Lost Sheep]

With the valve remaining in the deflate position, is there ever MORE saline in the implant than you left it?

If "No", that conforms to my experiences so far.

If "Yes", I am confused and more analysis to do.

No, I have never experienced an increase in saline in the cylinders after deflate button was engaged. Even after my penis plumps up and gets full and round again, I have tried to get saline out (deflate button still engaged) with no success. Briefly popping the bulb and then clicking the deflate button again results in next to no saline transfer from the cylinders as well. Any tiny amount I've experienced with a "POP/DEFLATE" maneuver could be attributed to the small amount of saline that is transferred to the cylinder during the POP of the bulb.

Hmmm.

Does that mean the after auto-inflation, you cannot deflate fully unless you re-inflate pretty full and THEN deflate?

Is so, that certainly does sound like a valve problem. Not flipping completely between the two modes of operation would be my guess.

(I don't expect to be back online until tomorrow)

[Waynetho]

LS, I'm doing my best to elaborate that I firmly believe that at least in my case, I am not auto-inflating at all. Once the pump is in DEFLATE mode, it stays in DEFLATE and doesn't allow any more saline to pass into the cylinders. Any saline still in the cylinders however, CAN still be squeezed back into the reservoir.

My plumping up after deflation is not auto-inflation but rather the firming up of my cavernosal tissues that were compressed between the tunica and the cylinders during inflation. This theory was confirmed as very plausible by Dr. Morey when I saw him last month.

[544kenmatt]

Just curious if anyone after deflation find that your penis gradually starts slowly inflating again? Not inflated completely, but around 30%. Is there an issue with the valve not locking out or what? I can squeeze my penis again to deflate, but why don’t I stay completely deflated. I thought that once you deflate, then a valve locks, and no saline can flow back into the tubes. Anyone else ever encounter this issue? I was implanted about 9 months ago with a AMS 700 LGX. Other than this issue everything is great.

Im a newbie but have the same issue. Im told this is my new flaccid. I generally don't mind this , as my old flaccid was pretty small. Sometimes it gets in the way if im getting up from a sitting position. I need to adjust it now and then.
If im feeling umcomfortable, a firm penis squeeze will help return some of the saline into the reservoir. Sometimes I can masturbate without pumping at all because I already have enough firmness. Not sure if that is saline or residual erectile tissue, or both.

[Lost Sheep]

LS, I'm doing my best to elaborate that I firmly believe that at least in my case, I am not auto-inflating at all. Once the pump is in DEFLATE mode, it stays in DEFLATE and doesn't allow any more saline to pass into the cylinders. Any saline still in the cylinders however, CAN still be squeezed back into the reservoir.

Yes, that is exactly my situation.

My plumping up after deflation is not auto-inflation but rather the firming up of my cavernosal tissues that were compressed between the tunica and the cylinders during inflation. This theory was confirmed as very plausible by Dr. Morey when I saw him last month.

I believe that happens with me, too (in minutes, rather than hours), but unsure if it is cavernosum tissues, spongiosum tissues or both that are firming, re-expanding or filling out.

Thanks for clarifying so well.