Dont want to pump in front of her

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Lost Sheep
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Re: Dont want to pump in front of her

Postby Lost Sheep » Thu Jul 09, 2020 3:12 pm

Gt1956 wrote:See 544kenmatt hit the nail perfectly. Great non committal reply.
LS, all of your scenarios are valid. I can only suggest that since this question seems to come up often. That lacking more specific questions. A generic answer is the best we could do.
Not that I reccomend this but I guess a guy could not address a question as if he didn't hear it. I'm guessing that many women while curious why their date is fiddling with his scrotum. Might not be curious enough to ask a question twice.
Without more interest from members. I suspect this thread has run it's course.

You are right. The question has been asked and answered many times before. I seek to refine the answers (ad infinitum), though.

Your suggestion of ignoring the question while fiddling with his scrotum suggested another scenario. If I was a gal with a guy who kept fiddling with his ball sack while ignoring my question about it, I would jump to the conclusion that he might have lice. Not a good thing for your date to start thinking about. :shock:
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Gt1956
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Re: Dont want to pump in front of her

Postby Gt1956 » Thu Jul 09, 2020 3:24 pm

Lost Sheep wrote:
Gt1956 wrote:See 544kenmatt hit the nail perfectly. Great non committal reply.
LS, all of your scenarios are valid. I can only suggest that since this question seems to come up often. That lacking more specific questions. A generic answer is the best we could do.
Not that I reccomend this but I guess a guy could not address a question as if he didn't hear it. I'm guessing that many women while curious why their date is fiddling with his scrotum. Might not be curious enough to ask a question twice.
Without more interest from members. I suspect this thread has run it's course.

You are right. The question has been asked and answered many times before. I seek to refine the answers (ad infinitum), though.

Your suggestion of ignoring the question while fiddling with his scrotum suggested another scenario. If I was a gal with a guy who kept fiddling with his ball sack while ignoring my question about it, I would jump to the conclusion that he might have lice. Not a good thing for your date to start thinking about. :shock:

Odds are, that if she has much sexual experience. She has seen men give an erection a "head start" so to speak. But you're headed in the right direction. There isn't a "one size fits all" type of advice. Maybe a "one size fits most" is the best we can do.
We do have to realize that younger women are different than when you & I were young. I still would be really interested in hearing from some members that have dating experience that are willing to share their experiences of being revealed.
68yo, HBP at 40, high triglycerides at 45. Phimosis at 57. Type 2 at 60. Dr. William Brant May 1, 2023 CX 21cm w/no rte's penoscrotal 6" girth @ 6 months

TANGERINE
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Re: Dont want to pump in front of her

Postby TANGERINE » Mon Jul 13, 2020 12:40 am

Regarding concerns on:
"trying to keep things as natural as possible"
"kill the mood"
"time and a place for everything and I don't think laying it on her that you have to pump..."


I completely agree that for the first two times that you have sex with a new woman, it is best , probably, to not disclose that you are bionic (though there are some on this franktalk group that will debate that).

So, GOOD NEWS, it is very easy to work the implant in front of her so that she will not notice what you are doing.

Here is the sequence that I would use:

1) when it looks like you might be having sex that evening, pump up to a good semi hard that dose not bulge too obviously in your pants (you can do this at the restaurant before going to your place, or if you get out of the other side of the car from her, you can reach into your pants and give some pumps as you prep to go up the stairs)

2) once in the apartment, invariably, someone will go to the fridge or the bathroom --- that is your chance to give more pumps to a level that is ready for sex (though maybe not rock hard)

3) when she rips your clothes off, she will be pleased to find a decent hard on --- likely as good as half the guys she has been with

4) when you rip her clothes off, get behind her to kiss the nape of her neck --- and give three more pumps while doing that

5) as you bathe her nude body with kisses, include kissing her stomach and maybe her legs. If you get far down enough to her calves, you are clear to easily pump another 3

6) if you do oral sex on her, you have infinite amount of time to finish all the pumps you want

7) Between position changes, it is easy to give a pump or two between positions

In a nutshell, the key is to sneak a few (ten) pumps in so you have a decent erection as soon as you get in the apartment. But, even if you did not do that, almost all women go to the bathroom before sex, or at least the fridge, so you have the chance at that point to get enough pumps in so that you are semi hard and just "good enough to penetrate". Then, just make the foreplay happen longer than usual (women like foreplay) and you will have so many opportunities to pump to the level of hardness you want without being detected.

REALLY, from experience, IT IS VERY EASY TO HIDE PUMPING if you devote some time to kissing before sex


PS: many have asked "how many pumps to get to hard enough for sex, and how many for super hard sex ?"

ANSWER for me (with the 22 cm titan)
1) semi hard -- just good enough for gentle sex (10 pumps)
2) solid hard erection (like most men) --- (17 pumps total)
3) crazy hard "oh my god" erection --- (25 pumps total)
4) the maximum "like a broom stick" erection --- (30 pumps total)


In other words, for my size implant, 30 pumps from total flacid to broom stick hard. It takes roughly one second per pump.

Do realize, now that I have three years of practice, the pumping is something my wife does not really notice (since I use the above routine) --- though yes, of course, she knows I have the implant.
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Response to "ambush" sex? Dont want to pump in front of her

Postby Lost Sheep » Mon Jul 13, 2020 1:34 pm

Of course, in the scenario everyone has imagined so far, they have skipped over this one (which has actually happened to me, fortunately before E.D. happened to me)

Sitting in my car and getting some necking and heavy petting, she unzipped my pants and proceeded to fellate me. Had I been implanted at the time, there would have been no chance to pump up, nor, given the date we were on, no expectation of a need. The fellation was a surprize.

So, if you are with a gal and she sexually "ambushes" you. What then?
Lost Sheep
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Re: Response to "ambush" sex? Dont want to pump in front of her

Postby Gt1956 » Mon Jul 13, 2020 1:43 pm

Lost Sheep wrote:Of course, in the scenario everyone has imagined so far, they have skipped over this one (which has actually happened to me, fortunately before E.D. happened to me)

Sitting in my car and getting some necking and heavy petting, she unzipped my pants and proceeded to fellate me. Had I been implanted at the time, there would have been no chance to pump up, nor, given the date we were on, no expectation of a need. The fellation was a surprize.

So, if you are with a gal and she sexually "ambushes" you. What then?

Improvise, get her out of the car, push her up on the hood. Stealth pump & have at it. Obviously there is no way to cover all the possibilities. As I've said earlier in this thread. Take charge, change the situation so that it benefits you. Not sure what else a guy could do. If she is in control, you are at her mercy.
68yo, HBP at 40, high triglycerides at 45. Phimosis at 57. Type 2 at 60. Dr. William Brant May 1, 2023 CX 21cm w/no rte's penoscrotal 6" girth @ 6 months

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Re: Dont want to pump in front of her

Postby notaes » Mon Jul 13, 2020 2:11 pm

I was implanted in January 2020. At first my pump bulb was very hard to push. It begin to soften the more I pumped it. I have had my implant for six months and I can quickly pump my AMS 700 LGX implant very quickly. I have pumped it in many situations. I’ve never been uncomfortable pumping up my implant. I feel like I can do it very tactfully and pumping has never been an issue. I think my attitude makes a big difference. I choose to think I have something special and am proud of my Implant. I have never been timid or embarrassed about my cock. I believe our thinking impacts all aspects of having an implant. I have been married for going on 36 yrs. My wife has been involved since day one and makes a big difference in how we think and act with regard to my implant.
66 yr old male married 36 yrs use trimix four yrs, cilais and Viagra. trimix work well developed scarring on both sides had implant 1/9/2020 at UT Med Ctr, Knoxville, TN Dr. John Lacy.

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Re: Response to "ambush" sex? Dont want to pump in front of her

Postby Lost Sheep » Mon Jul 13, 2020 2:42 pm

Gt1956 wrote:
Lost Sheep wrote:Of course, in the scenario everyone has imagined so far, they have skipped over this one (which has actually happened to me, fortunately before E.D. happened to me)

Sitting in my car and getting some necking and heavy petting, she unzipped my pants and proceeded to fellate me. Had I been implanted at the time, there would have been no chance to pump up, nor, given the date we were on, no expectation of a need. The fellation was a surprise.

So, if you are with a gal and she sexually "ambushes" you. What then?

Improvise, get her out of the car, push her up on the hood. Stealth pump & have at it. Obviously there is no way to cover all the possibilities. As I've said earlier in this thread. Take charge, change the situation so that it benefits you. Not sure what else a guy could do. If she is in control, you are at her mercy.

That would not have worked. We were young and neither of us were ready for intercourse. A similar situation COULD occur for a couple even if they were ready for intercourse, but not right then or not right there.

(edited to add an example) Say you pick up a gal (or get picked up) in a busy bar and you go outside to your car or some private place and she unzips you and starts fondling or kissing your penis before you had a chance to "prepare". About the only things you could do is excuse yourself for a few moments, perhaps a bathroom break (in which case, she may disappear on you) or make some other excuse. What excuse would anyone here use? This is just one example. There could be infinitely more scenarios where you need to explain a lack of or delay of an erection where an "intact" man would already have risen to the occasion. Or why you need to grab your balls and "massage" so hard as pumping requires. Could you explain to a new date what you are doing without actually revealing that you have in implant. Or, failing that, the impromptu and sudden revelation of your implanted state.

Essentially, what I am asking is, if a pumped-up erection is not possible (and you presumably do not want to reveal exactly why), is there a solution, explanation, etc that would not put her off of sex with you in the future?
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Lost Sheep
AMS LGX 18+3 Nov 6, 2017
Prostate Cancer 2023
READ OLD THREADS-ask better questions -better understand answers
Be part of your medical team
Document pre-op size-photos and written records
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Charlie2019

Re: Dont want to pump in front of her

Postby Charlie2019 » Mon Jul 13, 2020 2:46 pm

Captain1117 wrote:
oldbeek wrote:I am rock hard at 30 pumps. I can go all day with 10 pumps in me. That gives me a natural look and feel as if dating a sexy woman. It is plump to semi hard. Start your date with that type of a hard on. If she gets aggressive and reaches down to touch you she will know you are ready. Once she is ripping her cloths off she will not give a damn if you need to pump a few more. It is no more distracting than putting on a condom or adding lube. Takes 2 hands and about 10 seconds. In missionary position you could be rubbing her clit for foreplay and at the same time holding your junk in the position to pump at the same time. You are over worrying about it.


Sounds like a good strategy:
1.Pre pump before entering bedroom
2.While she is lying on bed, the man can be using his tongue on her clit/labia after some finger play. This usually ensures she has her eyes closed..if you do it correctly.
3.The second advantage is placing her on the edge of the bed and you sitting on the floor ensures..your legs and penis and waist is close to the floor and she cant see anything happening on your scrotum.
4.Since the tongue is all is needed now..you can pump easily and in 30 seconds max(while she enjoys the tongue game).
5.Once pumped to your satisfaction..you can stand and proceed to put on a condom and/or proceed to penetrate.
Trust this helps.



I cycle every night before I go to sleep so, if she is in the mood, I am ready to go. :)


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