Penis pump with penile implant

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MichaelM
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Penis pump with penile implant

Postby MichaelM » Tue Jul 14, 2020 12:52 pm

I have posted before, when I had my LGX implanted in 2017. I ended up with about 5" of usable penis. My wife has tried out the inflated penis and satisfied herself, but without the penis actually managing to enter her. I have had no success having "fun" myself with her. So I am buying a penis pump to increase the size, and use a silicone ring at the base, using the implant to keep the shaft rigid enough for entry. Some people have said "don't do it" and my doctor and the Mayo clinic have said that the implant can tolerate the stress, so go for it. What is everyone's opinion on here? Any experience with this?
6/2013 DaVinci Radical Prostatectomy sacrificing erectile nerve. 5/16/2017 AMS 700 MS series 15cm (with 4 RTEs) No orgasm unless after extended time. Am now 4.5 inches (after an hour, maybe 5 inches; 5.5 implanted). Lots of hand arthritis. Age 65

Lost Sheep
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Re: Penis pump with penile implant

Postby Lost Sheep » Tue Jul 14, 2020 1:27 pm

MichaelM wrote:I have posted before, when I had my LGX implanted in 2017. I ended up with about 5" of usable penis. My wife has tried out the inflated penis and satisfied herself, but without the penis actually managing to enter her. I have had no success having "fun" myself with her. So I am buying a penis pump to increase the size, and use a silicone ring at the base, using the implant to keep the shaft rigid enough for entry. Some people have said "don't do it" and my doctor and the Mayo clinic have said that the implant can tolerate the stress, so go for it. What is everyone's opinion on here? Any experience with this?

You have asked this question in a very specific way that previous posters have not done in the threads already in existence. Have you read those threads? They have answers for you, but probably none exactly addressing your specific points, using a vacuum erection device with or without constriction rings for sex or just for expanding penile tissues.

What is it that prevents you entering her, I wonder? At 5", you should be able to. What do you think her lack of her satisfaction is due to?
Lost Sheep
AMS LGX 18+3 Nov 6, 2017
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READ OLD THREADS-ask better questions -better understand answers
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Re: Penis pump with penile implant

Postby Lost Sheep » Tue Jul 14, 2020 2:30 pm

Lost Sheep wrote:
MichaelM wrote:I have posted before, when I had my LGX implanted in 2017. I ended up with about 5" of usable penis. My wife has tried out the inflated penis and satisfied herself, but without the penis actually managing to enter her. I have had no success having "fun" myself with her. So I am buying a penis pump to increase the size, and use a silicone ring at the base, using the implant to keep the shaft rigid enough for entry. Some people have said "don't do it" and my doctor and the Mayo clinic have said that the implant can tolerate the stress, so go for it. What is everyone's opinion on here? Any experience with this?

You have asked this question in a very specific not done in the previous threads. Have you read those threads? They have answers that might be useful to you, but probably not exactly addressing your specific points, using a vacuum erection device with or without constriction rings for sex or just for expanding penile tissues.

What is it that prevents you entering her, I wonder? At 5", you should be able to. What do you think her lack of her satisfaction is due to?
Lost Sheep
AMS LGX 18+3 Nov 6, 2017
Prostate Cancer 2023
READ OLD THREADS-ask better questions -better understand answers
Be part of your medical team
Document pre-op size-photos and written records
Pre-op VED therapy helps. Post-op is another matter

Waynetho
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Re: Penis pump with penile implant

Postby Waynetho » Tue Jul 14, 2020 2:35 pm

Even I with just over 5" (5.5-ish) and my wife very obese, I'm able to "enter" her. It takes some creative positions to do so but it's still possible. The best way is to alternate legs, with one of your legs in front of her abdomen and the other by her butt. Some call it a scissor position. My wife and I use this and she will turn sideways on her right side, lift her left leg and I straddle her right leg and slide right in.
62yo, married 41 yrs. Urolift (x4) 8/12/19. AMS 700CX 15cm (no RTE) penoscrotal 10/28/19, Frisco, TX. PD 1995/ED 2011. Cialis helped but hinged. (1995)L:6/G:5.5+, (2019)Pre-op L:5/G:4.5, (2/2020)L:6.0/G:5.0

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Re: Penis pump with penile implant

Postby Lost Sheep » Tue Jul 14, 2020 3:14 pm

Waynetho wrote:Even I with just over 5" (5.5-ish) and my wife very obese, I'm able to "enter" her. It takes some creative positions to do so but it's still possible. The best way is to alternate legs, with one of your legs in front of her abdomen and the other by her butt. Some call it a scissor position. My wife and I use this and she will turn sideways on her right side, lift her left leg and I straddle her right leg and slide right in.

Thanks, I understand. My girlfriend and I use that position, too. We are able to go longer in that position than any other we have tried since it requires little energy to maintain. We have even fallen asleep and awoken still joined, to continue coitus. It it glorious after experiencing E.D.

We have also discovered that "doggie" position allows deeper penetration. You might want to try it. Here is how we do it. She, on her knees, with knees on the edge of (the foot of) the bed and me standing at the foot of the bed. Height differential can be adjusted by me standing on folded throw rugs, if necessary. Sometimes she will put her feet up on a bureau behind me (It is only about 18 inches from the foot of the bed). This allows her to stabilize her positioning.

I have read the opinions that any substantial increase in penile size is very difficult to attain and very slow at that. But over time, assiduous application may work. Finding better positions will certainly give quicker results. For both of you.
Lost Sheep
AMS LGX 18+3 Nov 6, 2017
Prostate Cancer 2023
READ OLD THREADS-ask better questions -better understand answers
Be part of your medical team
Document pre-op size-photos and written records
Pre-op VED therapy helps. Post-op is another matter

MichaelM
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Re: Penis pump with penile implant

Postby MichaelM » Wed Jul 15, 2020 3:06 pm

Lost Sheep wrote:
MichaelM wrote:I have posted before, when I had my LGX implanted in 2017. I ended up with about 5" of usable penis. My wife has tried out the inflated penis and satisfied herself, but without the penis actually managing to enter her. I have had no success having "fun" myself with her. So I am buying a penis pump to increase the size, and use a silicone ring at the base, using the implant to keep the shaft rigid enough for entry. Some people have said "don't do it" and my doctor and the Mayo clinic have said that the implant can tolerate the stress, so go for it. What is everyone's opinion on here? Any experience with this?

You have asked this question in a very specific way that previous posters have not done in the threads already in existence. Have you read those threads? They have answers for you, but probably none exactly addressing your specific points, using a vacuum erection device with or without constriction rings for sex or just for expanding penile tissues.

What is it that prevents you entering her, I wonder? At 5", you should be able to. What do you think her lack of her satisfaction is due to?


Lost Sheep, Sorry I wasn't clearer. My wife will only have sex with her on top. My doctor said that position is the least likely to allow me to enter with a shorter erection. So she rubs on my pubic bone and no matter how I maneuver, I can't get in. I was impotent before the prostate cancer, so the last time I successfully complete the act to my satisfaction was 12/11/07. We are coming up on our 19th anniversary, and I'd guess that we have been mutually satisfied about 10 times. Since she will not allow another position and she is very adamant, I have refused to participate to simply act as a toy for her to play with, having no concern for my pleasure. I have to secretly satisfy myself because there is no way to win: she considers what I am doing to be unacceptable in marriage, and when I try to turn the tables and explain that her inflexibility to do anything except one position is unacceptable in marriage, she responds like an expert debater and finishes by punishing me any way she can. So I was hoping the vacuum device would give me another inch or so, that I can get some of it inside. Obviously, that is not the real problem, but when I suggested counseling she said "you are welcome to go by yourself, since you are a pervert and you focus on sex too much" Well, maybe, but I had someone tell me that "if sex is working, it's 10% of a relationship, and if it's not, it's 90% of a relationship". Now that we're both retired, we have the time to try stuff, but she has no inclination. Trying to fix the problem on my own is not working so well, but I certainly DO get a longer and fatter erection with a VED. I was just making sure that I wasnt' going to hurt myself (and ruin my solo enjoyment!).
6/2013 DaVinci Radical Prostatectomy sacrificing erectile nerve. 5/16/2017 AMS 700 MS series 15cm (with 4 RTEs) No orgasm unless after extended time. Am now 4.5 inches (after an hour, maybe 5 inches; 5.5 implanted). Lots of hand arthritis. Age 65

Waynetho
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Re: Penis pump with penile implant

Postby Waynetho » Wed Jul 15, 2020 3:55 pm

MichaelM, with the "pervert" statement you say she made when you asked for counselling, I'm surprised that she only will be "on top". I would have thought that a more Puritan belief structure would lead to more of a straight Missionary position. Cowgirl and Reverse Cowgirl are more exotic positions than the Missionary. It sounds like more of a Pick & Choose menu.

Sorry if I haven't explained my view adequately of if I've stepped on any toes. It's hard to explain my thoughts on such a delicate subject and being tactful and not offending someone.
62yo, married 41 yrs. Urolift (x4) 8/12/19. AMS 700CX 15cm (no RTE) penoscrotal 10/28/19, Frisco, TX. PD 1995/ED 2011. Cialis helped but hinged. (1995)L:6/G:5.5+, (2019)Pre-op L:5/G:4.5, (2/2020)L:6.0/G:5.0

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Re: Penis pump with penile implant

Postby Lost Sheep » Wed Jul 15, 2020 4:05 pm

Waynetho wrote:MichaelM, with the "pervert" statement you say she made when you asked for counselling, I'm surprised that she only will be "on top". I would have thought that a more Puritan belief structure would lead to more of a straight Missionary position. Cowgirl and Reverse Cowgirl are more exotic positions than the Missionary. It sounds like more of a Pick & Choose menu.

Sorry if I haven't explained my view adequately of if I've stepped on any toes. It's hard to explain my thoughts on such a delicate subject and being tactful and not offending someone.

Waynetho,

I think the "pervert" statement is a tactic to hide (from) the real issues. And I think there are multiple issues in the mix.
Lost Sheep
AMS LGX 18+3 Nov 6, 2017
Prostate Cancer 2023
READ OLD THREADS-ask better questions -better understand answers
Be part of your medical team
Document pre-op size-photos and written records
Pre-op VED therapy helps. Post-op is another matter

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VED will not fix this.

Postby Lost Sheep » Wed Jul 15, 2020 4:26 pm

You took the proactive step to get an implant to fix an erectile problem. Take a similar proactive step to fix this relationship problem with an equal determination.

MichaelM wrote:
Lost Sheep wrote:
MichaelM wrote:I have posted before, when I had my LGX implanted in 2017. I ended up with about 5" of usable penis. My wife has tried out the inflated penis and satisfied herself, but without the penis actually managing to enter her. I have had no success having "fun" myself with her. So I am buying a penis pump to increase the size, and use a silicone ring at the base, using the implant to keep the shaft rigid enough for entry. Some people have said "don't do it" and my doctor and the Mayo clinic have said that the implant can tolerate the stress, so go for it. What is everyone's opinion on here? Any experience with this?

You have asked this question in a very specific way that previous posters have not done in the threads already in existence. Have you read those threads? They have answers for you, but probably none exactly addressing your specific points, using a vacuum erection device with or without constriction rings for sex or just for expanding penile tissues.

What is it that prevents you entering her, I wonder? At 5", you should be able to. What do you think her lack of her satisfaction is due to?


Lost Sheep, Sorry I wasn't clearer. My wife will only have sex with her on top. My doctor said that position is the least likely to allow me to enter with a shorter erection. So she rubs on my pubic bone and no matter how I maneuver, I can't get in. I was impotent before the prostate cancer, so the last time I successfully complete the act to my satisfaction was 12/11/07. We are coming up on our 19th anniversary, and I'd guess that we have been mutually satisfied about 10 times. Since she will not allow another position and she is very adamant, I have refused to participate to simply act as a toy for her to play with, having no concern for my pleasure. I have to secretly satisfy myself because there is no way to win: she considers what I am doing to be unacceptable in marriage, and when I try to turn the tables and explain that her inflexibility to do anything except one position is unacceptable in marriage, she responds like an expert debater and finishes by punishing me any way she can. So I was hoping the vacuum device would give me another inch or so, that I can get some of it inside. Obviously, that is not the real problem, but when I suggested counseling she said "you are welcome to go by yourself, since you are a pervert and you focus on sex too much" Well, maybe, but I had someone tell me that "if sex is working, it's 10% of a relationship, and if it's not, it's 90% of a relationship". Now that we're both retired, we have the time to try stuff, but she has no inclination. Trying to fix the problem on my own is not working so well, but I certainly DO get a longer and fatter erection with a VED. I was just making sure that I wasnt' going to hurt myself (and ruin my solo enjoyment!).

It was I who was confused. When I stated "my girlfriend and I use that position, too" in my response to Waynetho, I thought I was responding to you. (I need to pay more attention.)

Your suggestion to seek counselling is a good one. Another piece of wisdom is that, while couples counselling is good, if one person in a relationship refuses, going alone is a viable alternative. The refusenik does not have the right to "punish" you for wanting to make your relationship better. A counselor can help you develop mechanisms to better cope with your situation. There are many responses to other people's behaviors and most of them are learned as we grow up and all of us miss some of those lessons. A counselor can show you how to fill in those gaps.

If I were in your position, I might try making a deal like, "You can use me as a sex toy to get your sexual satisfaction, OK, but in exchange, I wish for your help in me getting sexual satisfaction, too. It is only fair." Given what you have said about her techniques of avoiding even acknowledging that there is a problem or wanting to fix anything, I would undoubtedly fail in this bargain offer. But, I am not a relationship expert. So, I repeat my suggestion to find a professional who knows more than I do.

You refuse to be her toy. She refuses to try finding or fixing the problem. You both contribute to the impasse. Recognize your own contribution and you will be able to see hers better. And perhaps see why it is she feels justified in withholding sexual satisfaction (and most likely to my mind, many other forms of satisfaction and happiness) from you (and from herself, too). You are in a vicious circle that seems on a path to a downward spiral. Don't let it go there.

You took the proactive step to get an implant to fix an erectile problem. Take a similar proactive step to fix this relationship problem with an equal determination.
Lost Sheep
AMS LGX 18+3 Nov 6, 2017
Prostate Cancer 2023
READ OLD THREADS-ask better questions -better understand answers
Be part of your medical team
Document pre-op size-photos and written records
Pre-op VED therapy helps. Post-op is another matter

Charlie2019

Re: Penis pump with penile implant

Postby Charlie2019 » Wed Jul 15, 2020 5:02 pm

MichaelM wrote:
Lost Sheep wrote:
MichaelM wrote:I have posted before, when I had my LGX implanted in 2017. I ended up with about 5" of usable penis. My wife has tried out the inflated penis and satisfied herself, but without the penis actually managing to enter her. I have had no success having "fun" myself with her. So I am buying a penis pump to increase the size, and use a silicone ring at the base, using the implant to keep the shaft rigid enough for entry. Some people have said "don't do it" and my doctor and the Mayo clinic have said that the implant can tolerate the stress, so go for it. What is everyone's opinion on here? Any experience with this?

You have asked this question in a very specific way that previous posters have not done in the threads already in existence. Have you read those threads? They have answers for you, but probably none exactly addressing your specific points, using a vacuum erection device with or without constriction rings for sex or just for expanding penile tissues.

What is it that prevents you entering her, I wonder? At 5", you should be able to. What do you think her lack of her satisfaction is due to?


Lost Sheep, Sorry I wasn't clearer. My wife will only have sex with her on top. My doctor said that position is the least likely to allow me to enter with a shorter erection. So she rubs on my pubic bone and no matter how I maneuver, I can't get in. I was impotent before the prostate cancer, so the last time I successfully complete the act to my satisfaction was 12/11/07. We are coming up on our 19th anniversary, and I'd guess that we have been mutually satisfied about 10 times. Since she will not allow another position and she is very adamant, I have refused to participate to simply act as a toy for her to play with, having no concern for my pleasure. I have to secretly satisfy myself because there is no way to win: she considers what I am doing to be unacceptable in marriage, and when I try to turn the tables and explain that her inflexibility to do anything except one position is unacceptable in marriage, she responds like an expert debater and finishes by punishing me any way she can. So I was hoping the vacuum device would give me another inch or so, that I can get some of it inside. Obviously, that is not the real problem, but when I suggested counseling she said "you are welcome to go by yourself, since you are a pervert and you focus on sex too much" Well, maybe, but I had someone tell me that "if sex is working, it's 10% of a relationship, and if it's not, it's 90% of a relationship". Now that we're both retired, we have the time to try stuff, but she has no inclination. Trying to fix the problem on my own is not working so well, but I certainly DO get a longer and fatter erection with a VED. I was just making sure that I wasnt' going to hurt myself (and ruin my solo enjoyment!).



I am very sad for you. You have every right to expect to be satisfied as well. By using the VED and my implant I have gained about an inch of girth and about 3/4 of an inch in length. My dick is only slightly bigger than you and I have a few ideas that are amazing but until you can get her to agree to try something else, there is no point in describing them. Has she ever told you why she will only have sex in that position? Did you know that there are MANY people on here who have been injured, probably permanently while having sex in the cowgirl or reverse cowgirl position? :( :( :(


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