PE & ED

[mod123]

If you have had lifelong PE and now ED and if you opt for a implant, does the implant conceal the PE issue? Normally after you cum you go soft almost immediately but having an implant you can keep on going after cumming if I am correct or is over after cumming the 1st time?

Can others with both PE and ED confirm their experiences? Did your implant help you overcome your insecurities over PE? What was sex like after having an implant and still suffering from PE?

[Hrc714]

After implant, many report a delay in ejaculation or inability to orgasm during intercourse. I think if you enter with PE, you might end up in a perfect position. Just my opinion and not to be confused with medical advice or fact.

[Waynetho]

What Hrc714 said is true. You might get enough delay due to the possible nerve changes to be normal instead of premature. Even still, with the implant you CAN keep going after you cum if you want to, even if you go off early. The only issue might be prolactin induced (refractory) lack of interest after you cum.

In my experience, I started taking Cabergoline a few months ago to *TRY* to get better more timely orgasms, and orgasms during penetration. While it hasn't really helped much in that respect, Cabergoline has done one other interesting thing that makes me want to stay on it forever... It apparently suppresses the prolactin surge during orgasm enough that I don't lose interest and want to roll over and go to sleep. All of the HORNY related activities I practiced only up to orgasm but abruptly ceased right after, I still continue to do now even after going off.

For instance, various types of visual stimulation would stop stimulating and even become somewhat off-putting for me after orgasm but that no longer occurs and I can keep watching or performing that activity until *I* decide I'm through rather than my libido deciding.

If you would like further details (I can be graphic if you wish), you're welcome to PM me.

[indusvalley]

I can share my personal experience. Before ED, I did not have PE at all. After developing an ED, I got PE as well. They go hand in hand together. The reason is that when you have ED you get erect for a short time and you don't want to lose erection and you keep stroking your penis and it reaches peak quickly and you ejaculate and then become soft. With an implant, I am hoping it will not just fix my ED but also my PE as well.

[Gt1956]

Indusvalley's feelings follow some of what my family doctor said years ago. This was during a discussion on pills. He said that a better quality erection helps you last longer. I took that to mean that some part of PE is related to a softer erection than what might be considered normal. It might be hard enough for penetration but not hard enough to fight off the PE. Difficult to explain.
In my younger days, I remember a really hard erection & lasting 10-20 minutes or even longer at times was not a problem. A really hard erection allowed me to slow down or even stop for a minute to postpone my orgasm.
This relates to implants in this way. You'll notice that some guys will report having sex at less than maximum pumps. Several have said that at maximum pumps that orgasm is difficult to achieve. So maybe an implant won't cure PE. But at least you now have the option of varying your hardness to try changing when you cum. Will it work for every man? I doubt it, but at least it gives you a chance at changing how to have sex. Maybe more frequent sex will allow you to practice training yourself to last longer. A lifetime of dealing with a problem can get you in a rut that is hard to get out of.
Try searching for "one pump". That might dig up more info.

[Lost Sheep]

If you have had lifelong PE and now ED and if you opt for a implant, does the implant conceal the PE issue? Normally after you cum you go soft almost immediately but having an implant you can keep on going after cumming if I am correct or is over after cumming the 1st time?

Can others with both PE and ED confirm their experiences? Did your implant help you overcome your insecurities over PE? What was sex like after having an implant and still suffering from PE?

Welcome to the forum, mod123

I had lifelong PE for reasons I will explain further down my post (where I refer to the "path").

Hrc714's experience is the same as mine. My PE went away after implant. I suspect due to nerve trauma, not damage (as Waynetho mentions, this did not happen to me, but it sometimes does, particularly if a prostatectomy was involved). The delay abated over the following year. Soon after my implant I sometimes did not orgasm/ejaculate at all. This did no bother me since my partner did, and that was what I was after with the implant anyway.

(Aside) I often thought that if I were offered the Faustian bargain of being able to stay erect long enough to give my partner orgasms, but would never ever in my life be able to cum, I would make the trade. Of course, if that ever became a reality, I might, as Faust did, regret the bargain. As I said, though, I cum often enough to be satisfied and as the weeks go on, cum more often, satisfactorisly.

Two years after my operation I am able to cum with regularity and rarely do not cum. But, thankfully, usually AFTER my partner has done so. Still, she has never run out of orgasms before me.

My PE was not like indusvalley's, as mine was lifelong. From my youth, my penis would enthusiastically cum. This in not uncommon for boys. As I matured, my penile enthusiasm abated and I was able to stay erect for longer periods of time, even inside a vagna. But before long, I moved right in to indusvalley's description. I would get erect and then the erection would collapse unless stimulation would continue. Vigorously. Such stimulation inevitably crossed the threshold to cumming. So, I would attempt to stay in the path. Stray off to the left (stop stimulation to avoid cumming) and the erection would collapse. Stray to the right (continue stimulation to maintain the erection) and cum, leading to refractory collapse. As the years went by, the path became narrower and narrower until it "petered" out altogether.

As GT1956 posted, having an implant allows one to delay cumming by simply stopping stimulation. The erection does not collapse (though your spongiosum tissue might lose engorgement, that is not a vital factor in penetration). (Note: Some women can tell vaginally when your glans is engorged. But they have to really be paying pay attention.) The other viable option is to go on ahead and cum. You may lose (as I do) energy, but if you are young, energetic and enthusiastic you can put off the sleepiness and keep on, since the erection (without spongiosum engorgement) WILL endure. It is even possible to pull out, change positions and continue on. Also, your semen will provide some additional lubrication.

And, yes, training yourself to ignore your past coital failures is VERY possible...and gratifying! You can get out of that run GT1956 mentions and get on the smooth highway to cumming for BOTH of you. After decades of E.D., my tendency to EXPECT coital failure persisted for at least 3 years and I still have it in the back of my mind. But it is getting much better now, with the help of a good woman.

[brickbat]

What Hrc714 said is true. You might get enough delay due to the possible nerve changes to be normal instead of premature. Even still, with the implant you CAN keep going after you cum if you want to, even if you go off early. The only issue might be prolactin induced (refractory) lack of interest after you cum.

In my experience, I started taking Cabergoline a few months ago to *TRY* to get better more timely orgasms, and orgasms during penetration. While it hasn't really helped much in that respect, Cabergoline has done one other interesting thing that makes me want to stay on it forever... It apparently suppresses the prolactin surge during orgasm enough that I don't lose interest and want to roll over and go to sleep. All of the HORNY related activities I practiced only up to orgasm but abruptly ceased right after, I still continue to do now even after going off.

For instance, various types of visual stimulation would stop stimulating and even become somewhat off-putting for me after orgasm but that no longer occurs and I can keep watching or performing that activity until *I* decide I'm through rather than my libido deciding.

If you would like further details (I can be graphic if you wish), you're welcome to PM me.

@Waynetho: I have lots of cabergoline ordered from India that I have never used. I have seen some pretty graphic discussion on this site and encourage you, if you are comfortable with it, to tell us more. Evidently you refer to porn or ?? or "visual stimulation". If you cannot post it here, please PM me of your experiences with cabergoline and how it brings you pleasure, and being a 73 year old man, I dont think any of your graphicness will offend me, either on the forums or in your PM.

Thanks. And so glad you have found a way to add pleasure to your use of cabergoline. I am also interested in your dosage mg, how much you ingest daily as well as how many times daily, and any side effects you are experiencing from that dosage. Much appreciation.

[Waynetho]

@brickbat, I sent you a PM.