VERY Successful Penis Pumping Pre-IPP Surgery - Details You Want To Know

[niarceel]

I am about 3 weeks, pre-surgery for an IPP (Inflatable Penile Prosthesis).

I've done a considerable amount of research about the human penis in the last 2 years due to the onset of ED (vascular leakage) and now, impending IPP surgery.

First, some very important facts and information:
1. Aging causes deterioration of the interior of the penis. Lack of oxygen is the root cause of the problem which worsens with age (it causes penile scarring , fibrosis, and nerve death). This one thing causes ED in virtually every older man. If you can arrest this process of deterioration, you can go a long way toward saving your love life.
2. Nightly, small doses of Viagra/Cialis can help maintain penile health and may help cause the return of nocturnal erections in older men which are essential for penile health. There is some evidence that theraputic use of these drugs can also reverse tissue damage and rehabilitate tissues that have scarred and developed fibrosis, as well as reverse some nerve damage from oxygen deprivation. The drugs cause arterial dilation which improves blood flow and oxygenation of the penis. The use of these drugs for penile maintenance is well documented in the medical community.
3. Documentation available on this forum and written by surgeons explains the positive results that pre-surgery penis pumping produces. Pumping for 2-6 weeks pre-surgery causes enlargement that allows a surgeon to insert the maximum size and length cylinders into the 2 corpora cavernosa cavities inside the penis. https://file.scirp.org/pdf/ASM_2013012514045982.pdf
4. Venous leakage: My PCP and my Urologist told me it's usually caused by age. The body's veins have small check valves in them that prevent blood back flow during the diastolic phase of heartbeats. These small valves endure as many as a billion+ heartbeats during a lifetime. This causes wear and tear and their small edges begin to fray causing some venous leakage. The penis requires little to no venous leakage to work properly and hold an erection. It doesn't take a lot of venous leakage to ruin a good thing. Much more information if you're interested: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venous_leak

After daily penis pumping for 3 weeks, I have to relate my experience:

Pumping pre-surgery, I've had about 3 weeks to perform daily pumping and the results have been pretty amazing. My girth has significantly, visibly increased when either flacid or erect. My erections are a measured 3/4 inch longer. I did not really expect anything like this. If I'd known, I'd have been using a pump years ago.

My glans is significantly, visibly bigger. My wife recently remarked, "I don't know if I can get my mouth around it."

I purchased a $300 pump that is designed to be used with water, not air. A lot of paraphenalia, too complicated, although it worked, I am sending it back for a refund (it has a 60 day trial period).

I have an old air pump ($39) that I started using with water (shower, bath, spa, all work well). The $39 wonder pump works better than the $300 pump. But keep reading; there's more you need to know.

The big breakthrough was using water. Man, does water work well. It increases the vacuum strength without the usual leakage problems associated with using air. Once I get a good seal, I can increase the vacuum pressure to the point I think I could rip my dick off with it. I have to be careful not to injure myself with really high vacuum pressure. When my penis starts to sting and hurt a little, I stop pumping.

The key piece of equipment that has made using water so effective is a "cushion ring". It's allowed me to get a good fit, a good vacuum seal, greatly increase comfort, and the properly sized opening of the cushion ring prevents my scrotum and testicles from being sucked into the vacuum chamber at high vacuum pressure. Without a cushion ring, I would not have achieved such impressive results.

https://bathmatedirect.com/products/cushion-rings - I recommend these or something like them. Pick a pair with 2 different size openings that will most closely fit you, both flacid and erect. I only use one cushion ring at a time, picking the one with an opening that most closely matches the current diameter of my penis.

For those of you who have already had IPP surgery, I know that almost all of you complain that your glans size is diminished. I don't know if you can safely use a penis pump, post-IPP surgery. I hope you can. I encourage you to talk to your surgeon about using one before attempting it. You would hate it to damage the IPP. If you pump post-surgery, please send me a message telling me about your experience and results.

I only use the pump while showering for about 10 minutes per day. I pump, engorge my penis, hook the pump to a string around my neck so my hands are free, then shower, shave, and shampoo. The after effects of the enlargement last all day. When I urinate, my dick does not feel like my dick. It feels like a thick, meaty, sausage-like appendage that I don't recognize when I touch it. I really like it.

It's also plenty sensitive. No loss there.

[Stew52]

@niarceel You write such detailed and insightful posts. I've read several in various folders, notably DE and now this one. Thank you.

I've had similar experience with mild recreational pumping for 2 1/4 years now. Always had a big head/glans but now it's huge like a mushroom. Gained maybe a 1/2 inch length and a 3/8 inch diameter and the head 1/2 inch. Other factors including regular injections (4 yrs) and more sex have helped. And more recently a maintenance dose of Cialis. Morning wood has returned with a vengeance, several times a night. Wife is VERY pleased. I even got jumped the other morning witjout an injecton. We had 5 kids and things got a bit boggy even before ED and pills. It's very, very "fulfilling" now. Still DE now to sort. I'm planning on doing a write-up of my rehabilitation and maintenance program soon, it hits several FT topics.

[JW0817]

I have had my implant for about 2 mouths now and been reading up on the use of a pump to regain my loss size (about 1 1/2) . so I talked to my Doctor of the use of a penile pump and he told that is ok to use one and that you may get all that you lost in implant back and then some. I been using it now for about 2 weeks and have notice a different of a little over 3/4 of a inch in length and 1/2 inch in girth so far I hope it keeps on going. I use it for 10 min or so a day right now.

[brickbat]

I have been a vacuum air pumper in times past buying my cylinders from LA PUMP and a four inch in diameter sun tea jar type cylinder for pumping penis and balls from Newhart. Thanks for your suggestion to add water to the mix. The folks on Thundersplace and P E Gym would say water as hot as you can stand it as they say heat is a big factor in gains in penis size.

Your link to the vacuum seals that fit between the cylinder and your pubic area brings up four or five sizes with no explanation of which size to order----(Did I miss something on Bathmate's Website???)

Thanks for the tip on building a big sausage that last all day long as well as the other benefits you describe. Your attention to detail bro is appreciated.

[LuisFernandez]

Nice, thanks for this insightful information. I've only recently started using VED and going to take these tips into consideration.
As for glans, one thing i have noticed is making it bigger is using a vacuum cup. Specifically this one: https://totalmanshop.com/products/vacuum-chambers

I use this as an all day stretcher and for rod based extending. At first i started with the small chamber and have 'graduated' to the next chamber size.

[PeaceofPain07]

The only thing I wonder about is if pumping is beneficial for someone who doesn't have ED. In other words, someone who gets the erections that the pump provide thru sex/sleep/masterbation instead. My assumption is no.

[Lost Sheep]

The only thing I wonder about is if pumping is beneficial for someone who doesn't have ED. In other words, someone who gets the erections that the pump provide thru sex/sleep/masterbation instead. My assumption is no.

I suspect the therapeutic benefits are nil, but the benefits of stretching MIGHT be similar to jelqing (with the attendant cautions about overdoing it). I suspect any size increases would be very slow in coming, but if you are determined to follow a protocol for an extended number of months you might see a few fraction of inches in length or girth. Whether they would be permanent if you stopped vacuuming, is another question.

[robertm]

niarceel,

Was the $39 pump you used a Bathmate? Does it have a pressure gauge or did you just stop when it started to hurt? I don't want to do any damage. Did you have to shave to improve the seal?

Thanks.

[robertm]

For those who gained length with a pump, was that increase permanent or did you have to keep pumping regularly to maintain it?

[gjmjoe017]

I’m Four weeks out of implant surgery and I’m thinking of using my pump to gain inches back. Curious as to how some of you guys are using the pump with your implant. Are you pumping your implant to full erection and then using the pump? Would be interested to know.