Initial symptoms of venous leakage and doubts about penile implants

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alfa88
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Re: Initial symptoms of venous leakage and doubts about penile implants

Postby alfa88 » Wed Oct 21, 2020 10:48 am

But if the prosthetic fails, he is worse off than before.


I think Mr. Sheep should have added 'temporarily'. When an implant fails, the median life span is 10-15 years, a procedure called revision is done. At that point the recovery is shorter. As with any surgery, though, there are risks and that is why every other, legitimate, non- invasive treatment should be explored first.
53 years old, married 32 years. Decades of ED & PE. BPH. Tried Viagra W & W/O T-Shots, Levitra and Cialis, Edex, Trimix starter, medium, strong with poor results, VED. Implanted w/AMS700CX 21cm X 12mm w/1.5cm RTE by Dr. Leroy Jones 9/1/20

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Re: Initial symptoms of venous leakage and doubts about penile implants

Postby Lost Sheep » Wed Oct 21, 2020 2:13 pm

frwmw1 wrote:
Lost Sheep wrote:A man with a bum foot might manage a 20 minute mile, but amputate the foot and fit him with a prosthetic foot and he might do an 8 minute mile. But if the prosthetic fails, he is worse off than before. So it is with a penile implant. He might be able to have sex badly, but dilate the corpora and insert a prosthetic and he can have great sex. But if the prosthetic fails, he is worse off than before.

Hold out from a prosthetic for as long as you can (and other means still work). But when other means quit working, do not hesitate to go the next step if sex is important to you.


So is the issue then, regarding implants and youth, that successive revisions over 20-50 year period will increase complications and increase the chances that a replacement implant may not be available at some point?

No. You misunderstood my point.

A prosthetic is a very good treatment for E.D. But it should be reserved for cases that do not respond to less radical treatments. As long as your foot (or your penis) works adequately (if even poorly, but if it is adequate) I advise you stick with it. There may be an actual cure before your E.D. becomes too much to tolerate (though I admit the chances are slim). Only then get an implant. And at that point, do not hesitate if sex is important to you.

The downside to an early implant is that the implant irreversibly destroys any erectile function you have and makes you totally dependent on the prosthetic for erections.

The other downside to an early implant (as you correctly surmised) is that successive revisions MAY be necessary (and any time a surgeon open your skin there are chances for complications). As far as availability of implants is concerned, I think availability will not be an issue. Affordability might be, so save up or make sure you have good medical insurance coverage. But, given my earlier admonition (to not get an implant until it is the only treatment that will work), the revision question is irrelevant. If I needed an implant, delay for fear of revision is ridiculous.
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Re: Initial symptoms of venous leakage and doubts about penile implants

Postby Lost Sheep » Wed Oct 21, 2020 2:15 pm

alfa88 wrote:
But if the prosthetic fails, he is worse off than before.


I think Mr. Sheep should have added 'temporarily'. When an implant fails, the median life span is 10-15 years, a procedure called revision is done. At that point the recovery is shorter. As with any surgery, though, there are risks and that is why every other, legitimate, non- invasive treatment should be explored first.

Alfa88 read my post correctly. If my prosthetic (foot, hand, penile implant, whatever) fails, I would be on the phone THAT DAY scheduling a replacement.
Lost Sheep
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Document pre-op size-photos and written records
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Re: Initial symptoms of venous leakage and doubts about penile implants

Postby alfa88 » Wed Oct 21, 2020 5:18 pm

Might I add that I onlyconsidered an implant once I tried all the readily available, medically approved treatments. My last gasp, so to speak, was the VED and when I couldn't keep an erection even using 2 bands I knew I was broken so there was no doubt what to do.
53 years old, married 32 years. Decades of ED & PE. BPH. Tried Viagra W & W/O T-Shots, Levitra and Cialis, Edex, Trimix starter, medium, strong with poor results, VED. Implanted w/AMS700CX 21cm X 12mm w/1.5cm RTE by Dr. Leroy Jones 9/1/20

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Re: Initial symptoms of venous leakage and doubts about penile implants

Postby barrylandon » Wed Oct 21, 2020 9:04 pm

In addition to exhausting all of the other ED treatments mentioned on FT, before getting an IPP I had 8 sessions of Shockwave therapy and an injection of embryonic stem cells. Since I now have an IPP, you should easily be able to deduce that those treatments didn't work for me. However, perhaps they will work for you. In any case, I completely agree with my Bionic Brothers that men should try whatever is out there before choosing the nuclear option. Good luck!
Implanted 5/6/20 by Dr. Jesse Mills at UCLA; AMS 700 LGX 18 cm w/2 cm RTEs. I'm 76 & fit but had ED for 20 years. Pills/injections ultimately failed, including 3 ER trips for Priapism; Shockwave & embryonic stem cell therapies didn't help either.

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Re: Initial symptoms of venous leakage and doubts about penile implants

Postby KenJ1947 » Thu Oct 22, 2020 2:10 am

barrylandon wrote:In addition to exhausting all of the other ED treatments mentioned on FT, before getting an IPP I had 8 sessions of Shockwave therapy and an injection of embryonic stem cells. Since I now have an IPP, you should easily be able to deduce that those treatments didn't work for me. However, perhaps they will work for you. In any case, I completely agree with my Bionic Brothers that men should try whatever is out there before choosing the nuclear option. Good luck!


I had a series of 12 acoustic wave therapy sessions-- expensive and it didn't work at all. I didn't get the P-shot treatment but I doubted it would work and I couldn't afford it anyways. Now trying Trimix--also without success so far 8^{ . Contemplating IPP.
Married 50+ years, 75, ED for 10 years.

Dr Mark Allen, Plano, TX. Surgery at Baylor, Scott and White Frisco, TX. AMS 700 CX MS, 24 cm + 2 cm RTEs x 2.4 cm tubes, 100 ml reservoir.

4 grandkids (son 25, daughter 23, son 21, daughter 7).


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