AMS 700 LGX's 20% expansion : Myth or truth?

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Re: AMS 700 LGX's 20% expansion : Myth or truth?

Postby newbie443 » Sun Oct 25, 2020 12:56 am

Can someone then explain Table 1 in this study? https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5654325/

Specifically the measurement of the 21cm LGX at 0 psi being 21cm and the expanding in length at 10, 15, and 25 PSI. And the girth between the 21cm LGX and the 22cm Titan at 15 psi being almost the exact same. I do see a notable advantage in girth with the Titan 18cm.
Injections failed. Implanted 3-21-18 AMS 700 LGX 21 + 1 RTE 100 cc reservoir 6.5" L 5" G Dr. Kramer.

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Re: AMS 700 LGX's 20% expansion : Myth or truth?

Postby Gt1956 » Sun Oct 25, 2020 6:42 am

I've wondered about the confict between the 2 theories. The only explanation that makes sense to me is by reading the AMS LGX installation instructions. It says when selecting the implant size. To subtract 4cm from the measurements of the penis. That would mean that the implant would be short by about the percentage that it could stretch.
But my reading seems to imply that a few years back. A new "agressive sizing" process was started. In essence it soulds like the subtraction of the 4cm is being ignored by many surgeons. Thus the implant is able to stretch in length to the limits of your genetics.
I think a few months back there was a post from a member that agreed that is how his surgeon measured him. No minus the 4cm.

Edit: found the post. Corrected the subtract amount.
68yo, HBP at 40, high triglycerides at 45. Phimosis at 57. Type 2 at 60. Dr. William Brant May 1, 2023 CX 21cm w/no rte's penoscrotal 6" girth @ 6 months

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Re: AMS 700 LGX's 20% expansion : Myth or truth?

Postby newbie443 » Sun Oct 25, 2020 11:19 am

So then the answer is true to the thread title question with a qualifier that this can only result in gaining lost size 1) if the surgeon does not subtract the amount of expansion from the measurement during surgery to make up for this and 2) only if your anatomy permits?
Injections failed. Implanted 3-21-18 AMS 700 LGX 21 + 1 RTE 100 cc reservoir 6.5" L 5" G Dr. Kramer.

Proximal Perforation Sling Repair 4/13/21 Dr. Broghammer

66 years young.

Will show and tell and talk with others.

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Re: AMS 700 LGX's 20% expansion : Myth or truth?

Postby hope794 » Sun Oct 25, 2020 11:35 am

exactly, as newbie443 said, if the surgeon does not subtract the 4cm , in theory you should have +4 cm (or so on) when erect i think
26 yo from Italy.Peyronie's disease probably since 2015.Since then,penis bends of about 20-25°. PD keeps progressing. Moderate ED since 4 years and things getting worse.From pornstar-like to depressed, but still fighting for a solution.

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Re: AMS 700 LGX's 20% expansion : Myth or truth?

Postby Gt1956 » Sun Oct 25, 2020 1:57 pm

I has beed said many times here that a good surgeon is important.
68yo, HBP at 40, high triglycerides at 45. Phimosis at 57. Type 2 at 60. Dr. William Brant May 1, 2023 CX 21cm w/no rte's penoscrotal 6" girth @ 6 months

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Re: AMS 700 LGX's 20% expansion : Myth or truth?

Postby oldbeek » Sun Oct 25, 2020 3:17 pm

hope794 wrote:exactly, as newbie443 said, if the surgeon does not subtract the 4cm , in theory you should have +4 cm (or so on) when erect i think

You are not hearing the statement that you will never be larger than your NATURAL anatomy.
82, good health, RP 7-2017, all nerves taken , PSA 0.05, 4-18,, .07 1/19,.05 4/19, .03 11-21, .04 11-23, implanted 4-1-18, Infra-pubic, AMS lgx 15 cm with 5cm rte. Implant at USC Keck. Dr Boyd and Dr Loh Doyle 6.5 x 5, 800 AUS 7-21-20

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Re: AMS 700 LGX's 20% expansion : Myth or truth?

Postby hope794 » Sun Oct 25, 2020 4:05 pm

oldbeek wrote:
hope794 wrote:exactly, as newbie443 said, if the surgeon does not subtract the 4cm , in theory you should have +4 cm (or so on) when erect i think

You are not hearing the statement that you will never be larger than your NATURAL anatomy.


You are not hearing the statement that actually I WAS before Peyronie's that long, so if the surgeon removes the scar tissue and grafts me, maybe i can reach my previous natural lenght. That's what i'm asking!
26 yo from Italy.Peyronie's disease probably since 2015.Since then,penis bends of about 20-25°. PD keeps progressing. Moderate ED since 4 years and things getting worse.From pornstar-like to depressed, but still fighting for a solution.

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Re: AMS 700 LGX's 20% expansion : Myth or truth?

Postby oldbeek » Sun Oct 25, 2020 11:10 pm

I was talking of your pre PD size. You should gain all that back.
82, good health, RP 7-2017, all nerves taken , PSA 0.05, 4-18,, .07 1/19,.05 4/19, .03 11-21, .04 11-23, implanted 4-1-18, Infra-pubic, AMS lgx 15 cm with 5cm rte. Implant at USC Keck. Dr Boyd and Dr Loh Doyle 6.5 x 5, 800 AUS 7-21-20

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Re: AMS 700 LGX's 20% expansion : Myth or truth?

Postby hope794 » Mon Oct 26, 2020 6:25 am

oldbeek wrote:I was talking of your pre PD size. You should gain all that back.


Ok sorry then, there was a misunderstanding. Thank you for your reply :D
26 yo from Italy.Peyronie's disease probably since 2015.Since then,penis bends of about 20-25°. PD keeps progressing. Moderate ED since 4 years and things getting worse.From pornstar-like to depressed, but still fighting for a solution.


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