Psychological and physical arousement with an implant.

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hope794
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Psychological and physical arousement with an implant.

Postby hope794 » Sat Jan 02, 2021 7:43 pm

Hello guys, i would like to ask a question to all the brothers with an implant.
Since i have Peyronie's and ED, my libido went to nearly zero. Furthermore, Peyronie's has stolen me a little bit of penile sensitivity. I can still have erections by manually stimulating, but i cannot mantain it at all and that's why im considering an implant. I've realized how much i love that blood feeling inside my penis and especially when the glans gets engorged: psychologically, this is a great boost to my libido and i even feel more pleasure.

I tried to imagine myself pumping an implant and have little or no glans engorgement and no feeling of blood flowing in and.. I don't know. I am really really scared that i would have ZERO libido with an implant and less pleasure.

Is there anyone who can share his experience with this regard? How has your libido changed after the implant, in comparison to when you had ED? Is sex still really pleasurable even without glans engorgement and blood flowing in?

Thank you everyone and happy new year!
26 yo from Italy.Peyronie's disease probably since 2015.Since then,penis bends of about 20-25°. PD keeps progressing. Moderate ED since 4 years and things getting worse.From pornstar-like to depressed, but still fighting for a solution.

barrylandon
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Re: Psychological and physical arousement with an implant.

Postby barrylandon » Sat Jan 02, 2021 9:18 pm

Italian Stallion...
You've been exhaustively researching implants since at least May 2018, when you joined FT. I've personally exchanged several PMs with you. Sitting on the fence for as long as you have has got to hurt. If and when you've tried and failed with every other reasonable treatment for ED, there really is no other option than an implant. I know you're young but wouldn't you rather live for at least (hopefully) the next 10 years with an implanted dick that works every time on demand or one that just can't or won't function to satisfaction? How about making a New Year's resolution to take the necessary steps toward getting off that fence and regaining (or surpassing!) your sexual performance potential.
Implanted 5/6/20 by Dr. Jesse Mills at UCLA; AMS 700 LGX 18 cm w/2 cm RTEs. I'm 76 & fit but had ED for 20 years. Pills/injections ultimately failed, including 3 ER trips for Priapism; Shockwave & embryonic stem cell therapies didn't help either.

Nadie123
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Re: Psychological and physical arousement with an implant.

Postby Nadie123 » Sat Jan 02, 2021 9:29 pm

surely an implanted penis should have less sensations but in some good posture and with cialis or viagra it will most likely improve the glans congestion, in some way I support the man above being even younger than you, I am 23 years old but I think if nothing allows me to Satisfying sexual relations so that you put "buts" to the only true solution, to hell with everything ...
25 -year-old Colombian ... Psychological ED for life, I use viagra spontaneously with ex cellent results, it stopped working and developed a leak ... cialis + viagra work halfway in one position hate mi life but I am struggling to get an implant

Lost Sheep
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Re: Psychological and physical arousement with an implant.

Postby Lost Sheep » Sat Jan 02, 2021 11:44 pm

My girlfriend and I were discussing your post and her first impression (which I share most enthusiastically and endorse without reservation) was this (and I reiterate, this is exactly what she and I observed about my own experience.

"You will experience more changes in yourself than you will be able to keep track of."

This is not to say that it is a bad thing. It is what it is. My implant changed my life and my sexual outlook of life. But not at my core. I am who I am and have not changed.

More later.
Lost Sheep
AMS LGX 18+3 Nov 6, 2017
Prostate Cancer 2023
READ OLD THREADS-ask better questions -better understand answers
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Document pre-op size-photos and written records
Pre-op VED therapy helps. Post-op is another matter

Lost Sheep
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Re: Psychological and physical arousement with an implant.

Postby Lost Sheep » Sat Jan 02, 2021 11:50 pm

Your mention of blood flowing into your penis made me think of something I had not considered to any great extent before.

I will have to think about it, but I do recall the sensation of my pulse throbbing into my penis as it erected itself. That is gone now (or at least, reduced). I do miss it.

The pulses of my orgasm, however are undiminished and quite pleasurable for both my lady and myself.

Whatever glans engorgement you had before implant (given no misadventures during the implant surgery) you should have after surgery.

More later
Lost Sheep
AMS LGX 18+3 Nov 6, 2017
Prostate Cancer 2023
READ OLD THREADS-ask better questions -better understand answers
Be part of your medical team
Document pre-op size-photos and written records
Pre-op VED therapy helps. Post-op is another matter

Baseballfan11
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Re: Psychological and physical arousement with an implant.

Postby Baseballfan11 » Sun Jan 03, 2021 12:14 am

Lost Sheep wrote:Your mention of blood flowing into your penis made me think of something I had not considered to any great extent before.

I will have to think about it, but I do recall the sensation of my pulse throbbing into my penis as it erected itself. That is gone now (or at least, reduced). I do miss it.

The pulses of my orgasm, however are undiminished and quite pleasurable for both my lady and myself.

Whatever glans engorgement you had before implant (given no misadventures during the implant surgery) you should have after surgery.

More later



Hey Sheep, good to see you message. Always enjoy your commentary on these boards. I’m no doctor so I have no idea how arousal really works. Personally, I find that I’m similar to the original poster. I can finish from masturbation and with my gf when we fool around, but I don’t really enjoy it a whole lot to be honest. There’s no rush of blood flow in my member. It gets a bit bigger and can achieve orgasm but it doesn’t feel like the hard ons I had when I was exposed to Girls Gone Wild as a 9 year old. I share that same sentiment as the original poster. Perhaps my enjoyment for sex would go up on a strictly practical level, knowing I’d be functional. However I do question if I’d even really enjoy it more, if my mind still doesn’t feel that natural chemical horniness. Curious what you have to say. Peace
26 years old. USA. ED problem since teenage years. Doctor prescribed ED meds showing some efficacy but not a guarantee. As much as I’d like the implant I now think I should hold off if I’m seeing some results from pills

Slavicguy123
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Re: Psychological and physical arousement with an implant.

Postby Slavicguy123 » Sun Jan 03, 2021 6:00 am

One thing that i wanted to get answered is this
-- implant gives you 100 % hardness
--natural healthy erection gives you 100%

You are still aroused right?
No more blood cant get in neither of these two but you can still feel blood rushing to the pelvic floor in both of these but cant get to the dicks becouse they are 100% hard..

What do you guys think about this idea? Are those 2 erections really thaz different?

merrix
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Re: Psychological and physical arousement with an implant.

Postby merrix » Sun Jan 03, 2021 11:24 am

To Hope794, and maybe to Baseballfan as well:

Even though I understand all your questions, doing endless research and wanting to know everything - there is a problem with that approach. A few problems actually.
I'll take myself as an example.
I like to do research. I am the guy who can run anything in Excel.
If I get my mind set on something, I go all in and I get as much information/knowledge as I can as fast as I can get it.
I am the same professionally. I am a Managing Director of an Industrial company, and deal with the whole spectrum of decisions - HR, Finance, Production, Sales, Product Development, etc.
I want to base decisions on facts and data.
But - and this is the big fucking but I want to highlight to you.
All that research and analysis is useless if no decision is taken.
I always live by the device that it is better to take 10 decisions which were 80% perfect than to take one that is 100% perfect.
Decisions, actions is what create progress, what drives a business, a career, a relationship, one's health forward.
Without decisions and actions you stand still.
And as the saying goes, standing still is to relatively move backwards.
That's what I did when I got implanted.
I did research for 8 hours per day for 1-2 months.
Then I took a decision. I picked Eid, booked an appointment and just got fucking on with it.
If I had stayed in that research phase for a couple of years, I would have gone nuts. Totally crazy.

So get your thumb out of your ass and come to a decision.
After all this time, there is no magic information that will suddenly make you know exactly what to do, that will erase all your doubts and fears.
You do already know enough, you have thought about this enough.
What do you want to do?
Decision time.

And when taking that decision, remember this:
Your young pre-ED dick is gone. Gone. Vanished. Disappeared. And will never come back.
You can make the longest list ever about all your fears and doubts and all the disadvantages with an implant.
But don't compare that list to your pre-ED pornstar dick.
Compare it to the lame, soft, crap dick you have now.
And if you think that your current dick is better, if you think you are happier with that dick, then back off all the implant research.
Get off this forum. Stop the painful pondering.
Just get on, go out there, have sex, enjoy life.

With an implant, you could for sure have plenty of sex. You will always be able.
And if you think it is important to have sex, and still chooses the dick you have now, then I'm sure your current dick is providing you with that sex.
If it doesn't - then I'm not sure what you're thinking.

An implant will come with some drawbacks vs a perfect natural dick.
Of course. You didn't expect anything else I hope.
No surgical fix will leave you better off than when things worked great naturally.
A surgical fix will always be the second best solution.
But in the case of an implant, the improvement vs a natural non-working, unreliable ED-dick is enormous.

In my case, I could have sex with pills. 9/10 I could penetrate, often needing oral sex first to get hard enough to get in.
Once inside, I could bang on pretty well for 10 minutes or so. Not too slow, not changing positions, not stopping the in-and-out.
That would risk my dick went down.
And so it did maybe 2-3 times out of 10 and I just had to give up.
But still, 7/10 I made it. Fucked, orgasmed and rolled over.
I doubted my ass off as well whether an implant was the right choice.
Would I turn into some kind of freak with a plastic dick which would feel totally unnatural and any woman would laugh at me as the freak I had become?
I fought those thoughts 24 hours per day. For 1-2 months.
Then I decided that I had no choice.
Stories on Frank Talk indicated I would not turn into that freak. Even though I still had my doubts since most posters here were old, and honestly quite often weird, people I didn't really relate to.
But I decided I had no choice. Not doing the surgery, keep going as before, and slowly get worse - would drive my insane.
It would consume me. It would eat me alive.
So I decided that I'd just fucking do it.
And I did. 3 months after I found out implants even existed, I had one in my dick.
I thought hard, but I thought fast.
And I have never looked back.
Today, would I change?
Now I have a perfectly straight 18 cm dick that is always hard, which gives me the ability to be the best lover any woman I sleep with has ever had.
It gives me the luxury of only focusing on pleasure. For me and my partner. No worries, no limitations.
I have a dick, which when I am out at some bar/club, I can inflate to whatever level I want in my pants. If I want nobody to see it, fine. If I want a big fucking semi in my pants which girls come up and ask if they can touch - fine. Have it.
I can fuck anyway and anywhere I want. On my back, standing, hanging fucking upside down if I want to. And I can do it anywhere any time, drunk or sober.
All I need is 60 seconds and two free hands. Then I'm ready for anything. Any time. Anywhere-
Would I change that for my unreliable 16.5 cm, heavily curved crap dick which made me feel like shit everytime I had sex. And even more crap every time I did NOT have sex because I didn't even dare to try?
No. Fuck no. No way.

So to come back to your question.
Does it matter?
I understand it as that now you can masturbate with a blood filled glans.
Fine.
But you can't have good sex.
So what you are asking then is what is better:
Sitting in your sofa watching porn and jerking off with a blood filled glans, or having sex for two hours with a real woman but without the pulsing feeling in your dick????
I think you know yourself what will make you more happy for the coming 50 years out of those two options.
43 yo, ED forever from VL
Fit and active
Implanted December 2015
Titan XL 24 cm, no RTEs
Dr. Eid
Activated day 13
Sex after 3 weeks
Gained length and girth
So far It works perfectly
Only one advice: Find a world class surgeon

Gt1956
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Re: Psychological and physical arousement with an implant.

Postby Gt1956 » Sun Jan 03, 2021 12:39 pm

Thanks Merrix. You describe the point that I try to use when presented a decision. Make your decision based upon what the facts are in front of you. Do your reseach, seldom will the key facts change very much. Don't get paralyzed by continuous research.
68yo, HBP at 40, high triglycerides at 45. Phimosis at 57. Type 2 at 60. Dr. William Brant May 1, 2023 CX 21cm w/no rte's penoscrotal 6" girth @ 6 months

hope794
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Re: Psychological and physical arousement with an implant.

Postby hope794 » Sun Jan 03, 2021 5:55 pm

Thank you everyone for your comments, even if none of them replies specifically to my question.

I would like to reply to merrix in particular, which put so much effort in writing that long message to answer to this post.

@merrix, i totally understand your speech and i agree with it. But in my case, i've got so many problems that i need to address that i have to do PLENTY of research. I'll write down here just some of them:

1) I probably don't need just an implant surgery but even a grafting/sliding procedure, so i have to gather more informations about this topic;
2) In Italy we don't have, usually, insurances; so i'll have to pay 20.000$ by myself. This will probably bring me a huge amount of debts and , every time i have a revision. So if the implant breaks after 1 month for some complication, i will go bankrupt..
3) Most of my sensitivity comes from the glans engorged. This is because fibrosis (i have peyronie's) has stolen me part of my sensitivity. So, i prefer to feel something now than risk to feel NOTHING with an implant because i cannot come back, after the surgery.
4) As i said above, this is gonna be permanent and im just 26 years old. I don't want to ruin my life, just want to "save" it from ED, but i don't wanna go from a crap dick to an even worse or numb dick.
5) As i said, i still got erections, but i can't mantain them easily.. they're crap, essentially. But i can reach the erection. I think its pretty easier to decide when u got NO erection at all.

..and many more. That's why i am obsessive in my research and i apologize with all the guys in the forum, i know i'm probably really harassing and i'll get a ban one day ( :mrgreen: ) but this is so far the most important choice of all my life and it is gonna affect the rest of my life sexually, financially, psychologically, phisically..

I hope you've understood my feelings. The same for the other guys in the forum. Thank you if you guys reached this point of my speech, it means a lot for me. This forum is literally GOLD.
26 yo from Italy.Peyronie's disease probably since 2015.Since then,penis bends of about 20-25°. PD keeps progressing. Moderate ED since 4 years and things getting worse.From pornstar-like to depressed, but still fighting for a solution.


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