Im angry and depressed as f*ck. Just had a consultation for the prosthesis.

[SW0110]

You will be ready when you are ready. Not one second before. First you find a doc you trust. My first implant took me four tries. First 3 docs I just did not mesh with. My revision, due to other issues I used a local doc. He also said normally you end up shorter. I told him to research further and measure me well. I firmly expected my titan length plus some. I actually told him some things he was not really aware of in regards to the difference between the titan and ams. Implants are not their main focus usually as a urologist. You would think they would know it all but they do not. Even if they think they do. On my revision after surgery the doc came in and said yep he got 1 cm longer cylinders in. I told him that before we went in based on my research with revisions. It mat not happen in all cases but I got longer cylinders in the revision as many have.

The only measurement that counts is the one they do with the measuring rods at the time of surgery. When you are knocked out in the or, he will insert a rod down into your body for a measurement and up into your penis to the tip. Whatever those two measurements are is what you should get.

Ask him if those 2 add up to 20 cm, does he use a total 20 cm cylinders. For my ams that was an 18 cm cylinder plus 2 rtes for a total 20 cm length. It's your body, ask. If he measures and it comes up to 20 and he puts in say 19 cm, I would find another doc. Eid is aggressive as are a lot of docs in us.

Get 5 patients of his and call them. I am on both my first implant and revision docs list to talk to any of their patients who are deciding on an implant and have done so numerous times. If he will not give you old patients, if you can, I would see another doc for another opinion.

You can see if he will induce an erection with tri mix. This is the one they inject straight into your penis. I was barely 5 inches with it and a 45 degree curve. Stretched flaccid I could get to 6.

Both my surgery docs pulled my penis straight out from my body and said that should be your length. When they shove the rods inside aggressively that is what you get. Any gains after that come from cycling over time.

Remember, you did not lose your length over night and it will not come back miraculously over night. It took me almost a year of aggressive cycling. 2.5 years to lose 2 inches, 1 year to get it back.

The only real given is the longer you wait, the shorter you could potentially start your recovery at.

Good luck, whatever you decide.

Oh, if you have peyronies, I would see if he will use a titan. With my titan it took care of peyronies and my natural curve. On my revision, the ams cylinders are just not as stiff and my natural curve is back. I can live with it but I think I will go back to a titan on a future revision. I liked being straight as an arrow.

[Gt1956]

Hope, I'm glad that you survived cancer. If you've been examined by 10 doctors that specialize in implants then you have done your research. If the 10 specialists offer you no options that you feel is acceptable then there isn't any advice for me to give you. I can't change the doctors advice. I'm sure that in your time on FT that you've read lots of other mens experiences. If you've decided that what the results these other members report is not acceptable then so be it.

[irishguy]

Hope I’m sorry to hear about all this. It’s a shitty situation your in. I think the other guys might be trying to give you tough love. I understand you have went to 10 urologists in Italy. That is a lot of urologists for the same results but saying that I went to 2/3 doctors and 3 urologists. And for the vast majority of them I was told absolute nonsense. I got injected by the first urologist it was like my balls were killing me and I had a small chub that was like a penis 1/8 filled with blood and he goes ah there ya go a good erection(fuck off) so it was the psycho sexual counsellor that put me on to her friend a good urologist and he put me straight on to Ralph in London... so my advice why don’t you ring eid Kramer and or Ralph in London and ask the best of the best your questions!!! If they give you the same answers as the other 10 ya just have to resign yourself to the possible results!! I hope they give you some hope though

[wewokarents]

If you have access to "You Tube" do a search for either AMS/Boston Scientific or Coloplast and penile implant surgery. Often times a surgeon will measure a stretched or artificially inflated penis just to get an estimate of the size implant. The final measurement will be at the time the surgeon expands and dilates the corpora. There are 2 measurements one from the opening in the corpora to the pelvic bone and another from the same opening to the inside of the corpora at the glans. Those 2 numbers are added together and that is the size of the implant. If you watch one of the videos of the surgery this will make more sense.

[merrix]

Hey man

You are obviously not happy with your situation and not with the options you think you have. Of course not. ED sucks. Nobody has ever been happy, and no options have ever been better than the original well-working dick. So you’re no different. ED sucks like fuck for everybody.

And just like for everybody, you have two choices. Do nothing or pick the best (least bad) option. You seem to be choosing to do nothing.
That’s fine if doing nothing is your best option. If it isn’t, and you choose to do nothing because you live in fantasy land and keep hoping a holy ghost will show up and give you something doctors can’t offer, then you’re being foolish.

As others here have said, the length a stretch test measures is an estimation. I can only speak for what Eid did with me. He gave me an injection. I barely got no effect. More weight and more thickness, but no real erection. He did a stretch test on my semi. Said 16 cm. I always measured myself at 16.5, maybe, with a very aggressive definition of bone-pressed, I could get 17 cm.
He was just totally calm and said that what he measured today in front of my eyes was 16 cm and that’s what he would guarantee I would get after surgery. He also measured my girth to 14 cm and said that’s what I would get after surgery.
Totally understandable. He must work with what he sees, not with what patients tells him. In the end I did get a little more, but that’s a better surprise than getting a little less.

Back to you.
In some way you remind me of my daughter. When she was 5 years old, every morning was a battle. She had long hair, which looked like a total mess every morning. We weren’t allowed to brush it, because she said it hurt. OK, we said, then go to school looking like this. No, she screamed, I don’t want to look like this, fix my hair. OK, let’s brush it. No, she screamed, it hurts.
And on it went…
You are a bit the same. You are unhappy with your ED, but you don’t want to go ahead and fix it with the solution available. You are not happy with any alternative, so you choose to do nothing.
What you must understand is that by doing nothing, you choose ED. And you choose to have your ED getting worse, and worse every year. Also, the results possible to achieve with an implant worsen for every year you let your dick shrink and curve.
So your reaction is completely illogical and does only put yourself in a more shitty situation than before.

Also, you say “don’t give me the BS about a hard short dick is better than a long limp dick” bla, bla, bla.
But why shouldn’t we give you that crap? It is the truth.

Also, you think that those of us who got out of surgery with maintained length don’t understand your dilemma.
OK, I am, 5 years out of surgery and I am actually longer now than before surgery.
But do you know what? I still had to make a bigger sacrifice than your length loss.
The thing is that when you get implanted, and when you compare to a natural working dick – length loss is peanuts. Nothing.
The big loss, the big sacrifice compared to a natural working dick is that you have a fucking implant. There are plastic cylinders in your dick and a piece of plastic in your sack. There is tubing connecting them. When you want to have sex, you don’t get an erection. You will never ever again get a natural erection. If you want to fuck your girl, you need to excuse yourself, got to the WC and pump your fucking dick up manually. Like some pathetic freak.
That’s the price you pay to have sex again. The tiny little 1-2 cm length you talk about is absolutely marginal in the bigger picture.

Let us say we have a guy with a 16 cm dick and ED who has two options:
1-Get am implant and keep your 16 cm.
2-Lose 1.5 cm length and your dick magically heals and will work perfectly well in its natural state.

You seem to think that option 1 is the best. Since all you talk about is the length.
BS. I would have cut 2 cm off my dick anytime to keep it working natural and not having to rely on a prosthesis in my dick to have sex.
So forget the tiny little sacrifice of losing 1 or 2 cm.
The big sacrifice is being depending on a plastic prosthesis to fuck. All of here who got implanted here did make that sacrifice, so we know very well about the sacrifices needed.

And bottom line, again and for the 100:th time – All you can do is choose the best option that you have.
If you really think that your current, and future, natural dick is better than the implant – then get off this site and fuck happily ever after.
If you think your current dick is crap and you want to have better sex – forget the risk of losing length, find the best doc you can, and get implanted.

[Gigio88]

Sorry Merrix but I don't agree at all with you.

I understand that some guys seem annoying and do not accept their condition. But I think also there are a lot of users here that have the habit to judge superficially and that think their experiences are right for everyone. They're not.
It's curious that usually the ones who act like this have big dicks or are old with already a family.

1) Let's make it clear. Sex confidence is not only about a penis that works. It's also about looking at the mirror and recognizing you, liking what you see. When a woman has breast cancer and she survives, there is usually a recostruction surgery..why? because people need to recognize themselves, need to feel not mutilated. It's not the same situation, I know, but there's a natural feeling about that everyone has.
Obviously there're guys obsessed with sizes but we are not talking about that. We are talking about a guy in his twenties who may lose 2 inches and more, 5 cm, starting from a normal penis to a size under the average range. Maybe for someone having a normal penis is as important as having a working one. Obviously we have to accept a loss of 1 o 2 cm, but this is not the case.
Onestly @Merrix I don't think at all that you would be as happy as you are if your surgeon had let you with a penis of 11 cm of lenght and 9 cm of girth (from a start of 16 of lenght).. Also, you are married, with children. We are talking about a young, single guy. It's not the same situation. Can we be empathetic? Can we not jundge other?

2) You have also to understand that here, in Italy, we don't have surgeons with the same level of the ones you mention. So the option simply can't compare. People are here to search new informations. Not always the solutions are good enough to be persuit.

3) ED is a bad condition, that can make a lot of psycological consequences.. Sometimes people just need to vest their feelings in forums because it's not something that you can explain easily to the people around. Reading other vest don't make you the hero who can find the solution, don't make you the one who know the truth and can judge other feelings. Sometimes the only think you can do is to comfort.

4) IPP is a surgery, a surgery is a serious thing. You can't decide in months to go under knife. Sometimes people need to reflect about it for years. Expecially if you are in you're twenties with all your life ahead of you.

[68CatFan]

I don't want to hear anybody bitch about losing any length. I'm 5 1/2 inches fully erect so anybody who is greater than that after implant surgery has me beat. So you used to be 6 1/2 now your only 6? aw poor baby...

[Nadie123]

I really understand ... not having empathy and being here is disgusting ... old patients will only give you shitty advice because at their age it is little more normal to have ED, venting here with these animals without empathy is frankly a bad decision ... how big are you and how big will they leave you approximately? ... remember only young people living this hell can we understand how it really feels

[Txagq8]

I really understand ... not having empathy and being here is disgusting ... old patients will only give you shitty advice because at their age it is little more normal to have ED, venting here with these animals without empathy is frankly a bad decision ... how big are you and how big will they leave you approximately? ... remember only young people living this hell can we understand how it really feels

Excuse me? Did you REALLY say what I think you did?

Here is something you might figure out, if you live long enough.

It doesn’t matter how old you are. You have the same feelings at 65 you did at 29. You are the same person. A guy is (hopefully) a little wiser at 65. But he doesn’t think oh, I’m old, I no longer have any desire or need to be sexy and desirable and want women to crave what I can provide.

You don’t think older guys still have the same itch as a younger guy? That somehow it is more critical to a young guy’s self esteem?

You don’t know what you’re talking about. . If anything, the desire gets stronger with age, not less.

A couple of thoughts. If advice from old guys is shitty, don’t let the door hit you on the ass on your way out. The other is that guys agonize over cock size way more than women. A guy can be too big to please a woman just as easily as he can be too small. Folks just need to relax about a small loss of size. I never freaked, even if I wasn’t thrilled. Most of it came back, what little I lost is more than a fair trade for a real functional erection.

[FMLFML85]

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