Hi all,
In my quest to learn more about ed (and how to slow or stop it) Ive been doing a lot of research both on FT and other platforms. From what I have gathered if one stops getting Morning erections or its frequency diminishes this causes damage to the penis. The needed blood flow to keep your tool oxygenated and healthy isn't there and slowly your penis begins to atrophy. My question is if one chose not to take a daily cialis 5 mg to keep these morning erections, could it end up in a venous leak? I read somewhere on FT that over time no morning wood = venous leak. How true is this?
At the moment I still get fairly decent erections with manual stimulation, and porn but the morning erections have noticeably decreased both in frequency and hardness. I haven't started taking the cialis yet but the pills are with me. Just wondering if I should ride it out or begin Cialis immediately to prevent future damage that could occur?
Comments and opinions are welcome.
Implications of No Morning Wood
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Re: Implications of No Morning Wood
Indeed that's the case. It's not just about morning wood, but about nightime erections.
These erections help keep the penis oxygenated and stretched. As you lose these your penis will begin to atrophy and shrink. This will cause your smooth muscle ratio to decrease, thus possibly leading to a venous leak.
Nightly cialis will help tremendously. Also 3kmg l-citrulline daily.
Additionally you can do vacuum device 1-2x a day to help manually pump blood to the penis. You should do "pulse" pumping to mimic nighttime erections.
This will help rehab the penis, keep the stretch, stop atrophy, and increase penis size.
Best.
These erections help keep the penis oxygenated and stretched. As you lose these your penis will begin to atrophy and shrink. This will cause your smooth muscle ratio to decrease, thus possibly leading to a venous leak.
Nightly cialis will help tremendously. Also 3kmg l-citrulline daily.
Additionally you can do vacuum device 1-2x a day to help manually pump blood to the penis. You should do "pulse" pumping to mimic nighttime erections.
This will help rehab the penis, keep the stretch, stop atrophy, and increase penis size.
Best.
Born 1986. ED. Peyronie's.
Considering an Implant. Consulting with Dr. Eid.
Using Cialis 10mg/day + 20mg for sex. Injections of PGE-1.
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Considering an Implant. Consulting with Dr. Eid.
Using Cialis 10mg/day + 20mg for sex. Injections of PGE-1.
See my story: viewtopic.php?t=15016
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Re: Implications of No Morning Wood
In my case, diabetic neuropathy (autonomic and peripheral ) ended nightly and morning wood. However, I have been using a pump for therapy and although pumping has had little long term improvement of my ED, my size has shown a significant increase.
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Re: Implications of No Morning Wood
Sahara1 wrote:My question is if one chose not to take a daily cialis 5 mg to keep these morning erections, could it end up in a venous leak? I read somewhere on FT that over time no morning wood = venous leak. How true is this?
Do not confuse correlation with causation. I suspect lack of nocturnal and morning erections does not cause venous leak. It may be the other way around, or neither, but they both come (independently, perhaps) from some other, common, cause or two (related or unrelated) causes that happened to occur at the same time. But I really don't know and I doubt the medical community has determined the truth of the matter, either.
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AMS LGX 18+3 Nov 6, 2017
Prostate Cancer 2023
READ OLD THREADS-ask better questions -better understand answers
Be part of your medical team
Document pre-op size-photos and written records
Pre-op VED therapy helps. Post-op is another matter
Re: Implications of No Morning Wood
I take the pycnogenol complex from Naturmil before going to sleep. 100% natural ingredients, no side effects and pycnogenol is a powerful antioxidant that improves sexual function and overall vascular health.
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Re: Implications of No Morning Wood
I had a great visit with a great uro yesterday, talked with me for almost hour. My writing here as he told me, may assist.
Low testosterone may cause lack of night or morning erections, have it checked. Since I have been on cypionate I have nocturnal erections, maybe not every night but most. My libido increased to the point all I can think of is having sex and making love to my pretty wife. Low dose daily cialis does help. Shrinkage is common, and stated above with VED helps muscle retention. Uro stated I may a venous leak, but the end result will be eventually be penis injections. The pills, especially sildenafil or Viagra work for me, sometimes only 80% hard for penetration. The URO told me he doesn't know why more men are objected to use a VED device for sex, with constriction ring. BUT in this forum, for members, this is a personal issue. One of the members here talked about arginine, and recommended what he suggested, if you would like that info, PM me. This member stated arginine also helps blood flow, like viagra pill. The uro also spoke of the muse product, and he says doesn't work. The uro said I needed a PSA, hemoglobin A1C blood test, of which I did this morning.
One of the member here has been using Udenafil, and works for him. I spoke of this with the URO and he says, he has been studying, but it is not approved in the USA, but approved in many other countries. I have ordered some and willing to try.
We spoke of viagra, as i take 100mg, and if I can use more if would work. It is not recommended, as if the body objects to a greater reduction in blood pressure, that may cause fainting. He told me to try 125mg, see if works better. The other day, I did try 100mg viagra, and followed up with a 25mg, 2-3 hours later, as a booster. Therefore we had 2 sexual encounters a few hours apart. Worked just ok, but remember there is a risk! I told my uro, after I asked the question, that I had tried that pill formula.
The other day, I posted about how I laid it all out with my wife and the entire discussion about my ED. Therefore I ordered a VED device, and the mrs is anxious to try that device on me! If the device works, even as a playful measure, that will be fun. My wife is not objected to penis injections if we get to that point. Thank goodness she has libido thoughts!
As a funny side note, my uro visit yesterday, my wife wanted to see me violated by the uro, but was disappointed when that didn't happen! But we had a great lunch date and some good laughs!
Another funny side note....my mrs said if I needed an implant....she said she wanted to pump it up!!!! I can just imagine in the darkness of the night.....lol
Low testosterone may cause lack of night or morning erections, have it checked. Since I have been on cypionate I have nocturnal erections, maybe not every night but most. My libido increased to the point all I can think of is having sex and making love to my pretty wife. Low dose daily cialis does help. Shrinkage is common, and stated above with VED helps muscle retention. Uro stated I may a venous leak, but the end result will be eventually be penis injections. The pills, especially sildenafil or Viagra work for me, sometimes only 80% hard for penetration. The URO told me he doesn't know why more men are objected to use a VED device for sex, with constriction ring. BUT in this forum, for members, this is a personal issue. One of the members here talked about arginine, and recommended what he suggested, if you would like that info, PM me. This member stated arginine also helps blood flow, like viagra pill. The uro also spoke of the muse product, and he says doesn't work. The uro said I needed a PSA, hemoglobin A1C blood test, of which I did this morning.
One of the member here has been using Udenafil, and works for him. I spoke of this with the URO and he says, he has been studying, but it is not approved in the USA, but approved in many other countries. I have ordered some and willing to try.
We spoke of viagra, as i take 100mg, and if I can use more if would work. It is not recommended, as if the body objects to a greater reduction in blood pressure, that may cause fainting. He told me to try 125mg, see if works better. The other day, I did try 100mg viagra, and followed up with a 25mg, 2-3 hours later, as a booster. Therefore we had 2 sexual encounters a few hours apart. Worked just ok, but remember there is a risk! I told my uro, after I asked the question, that I had tried that pill formula.
The other day, I posted about how I laid it all out with my wife and the entire discussion about my ED. Therefore I ordered a VED device, and the mrs is anxious to try that device on me! If the device works, even as a playful measure, that will be fun. My wife is not objected to penis injections if we get to that point. Thank goodness she has libido thoughts!
As a funny side note, my uro visit yesterday, my wife wanted to see me violated by the uro, but was disappointed when that didn't happen! But we had a great lunch date and some good laughs!
Another funny side note....my mrs said if I needed an implant....she said she wanted to pump it up!!!! I can just imagine in the darkness of the night.....lol
66 yo dude, happily married. TRT injection. PDE5's. On a diet, meds for high blood pressure. Easy going, pro 2nd amendment. Burn and explosion survivor. My motto, love my wife, work hard, play hard, and stay hard! Trimix injections, 30/1/10.
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