Size after implant.

The final frontier. Deciding when, if and how.
hopeful_future
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Re: Size after implant.

Postby hopeful_future » Wed Jul 14, 2021 11:48 am

Pquigs wrote:Folks. I am going thru some very huge regret

With venous leak my erections were lasting less and less. So I reluctantly got an implant. To avoid losing more size down road.

I was about 6.25 inches erect and more girth before implant

My length two months after is 5.75may be a bit more pressing into public bone. My girth is 5”

Am I too short to satisfy a partner. I am a single 56 yr guy wanting to date and find another partner in life after losing my wife.

Any insight would be great.

Thx


Congrats, you're still larger than average. You have more than enough to make a partner happy. Having a working 5" dick would still be more satisfying to a partner than a non-functioning 8" dick. So chill out about that part.

Beyond that, I went from about 6" to a bit over 5.5" length when I got my implant. In the nearly 1 year since, I've come back up to 5.75" or so. Zero complaints from my partner. Quite the opposite, really!
39yo, ED since sexually active, moderate to severe. Bisexual. Pills helped a little, trimix and muse failed. Implanted 8/25/20 by Dr. Karpman, 22cm+1RTE Titan Touch.

naslimn
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Re: Size after implant.

Postby naslimn » Wed Jul 14, 2021 12:42 pm

I am in the same boat
With Tri mix shots I was 6.5" L and 6.0 girth ( which I was very proud of)
I could have gone on for many years without implant.
Reading reviews got carried away and got implanted six month ago
now i am barely 6 L which is not bad but get this the girth is barely 5 and no hope for getting back .
To me the biggest draw back of this technology is the loss of girth which is hardly mentioned
here on the board. Also the shape of the penis is now oval. Girth is the most important aspect of a desirable penis not length.
Ask any female.
I am trying to be honest and objective in my reply.
My advice to guys contemplating penile implant consider the following:
1. Don't do it if you can complete intercourse with pills, rings or shots.
2. If intercourse is not possible for lack of rigidity penile implant is the best alternative
3. Getting it done for any other reason will be disappointing
wonder how many poster are actually from surgeon's offices or prostheses manufacturers .
It is now convenient for me since I don't have to plan activities in advance.
That's the only consolation
:| :(
Implanted Feb 2021 AMS CX 24 X 18
tired of trimix which worked great for me
Shrunk from original very disappointing

wunhunglo
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Re: Size after implant.

Postby wunhunglo » Wed Jul 14, 2021 12:49 pm

To me the biggest draw back of this technology is the loss of girth which is hardly mentioned
here on the board. Also the shape of the penis is now oval. Girth is the most important aspect of a desirable penis not length.
Ask any female.


Couldn’t agree more! My guess is that men with zero function (and are older) care less about cosmetics. I was never informed about losing girth or the shape of my penis changing. Potential candidates need to know so they can make an informed decison. Pills stopped working for me due to VL and injections didn’t work very well.

All in all I’m very satisfied with Dr. Eid and the surgery.
Implanted April 9th 2021(age 55) by Dr. Eid w/ 24 cm Titan
Activated Day 3; minimal swelling and discomfort for 3-4 weeks
Preop injection size: 17 cms length (slight press) & 15 1/2 cm girth
Post up w/max inflation: 17 cm length 14 cm girth

Lost Sheep
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Re: Size after implant.

Postby Lost Sheep » Wed Jul 14, 2021 1:22 pm

naslimn wrote:I(edited for focus)
I am trying to be honest and objective in my reply.
My advice to guys contemplating penile implant consider the following:
1. Don't do it if you can complete intercourse with pills, rings or shots.
2. If intercourse is not possible for lack of rigidity penile implant is the best alternative
3. Getting it done for any other reason will be disappointing
wonder how many poster are actually from surgeon's offices or prostheses manufacturers .
It is now convenient for me since I don't have to plan activities in advance.
That's the only consolation
:| :(

I hear you, naslimn and sympathize with your disappointment. A hard lesson to learn. I hope your experience as time progresses will improve, but your advice is sound.

What wunhumglo said "My guess is that men with zero function..." is spot-on. If one can have satisfactory sex (even if that sex is non-coital) one should opt for an implant very cautiously. It is radical, invasive, slightly risky, and very likely forever destroys whatever erectile function still exists.

I very seriously doubt, however, that surgeon's offices are planting shills here. The idea that some surgeons are self-promoting has been suggested before, and may have some merit, but almost all the success stories I have read hear have the ring of truth.

Any man who jumps into an implant (mixed meaphor, there) without fully investigating the devices, the procedure AND his surgeon, in my opinion, is taking a risk. If taking that risk is a considered decision, that is a choice. (I recognize that many patients prefer to put their medical care in the hands of their medical care team without making themselves a part of the decision-making process. I do not fault them for that approach. I take the opposite approach and make myself an integral part of my care team, knowledge and decision-making.)
Lost Sheep
AMS LGX 18+3 Nov 6, 2017
Prostate Cancer 2023
READ OLD THREADS-ask better questions -better understand answers
Be part of your medical team
Document pre-op size-photos and written records
Pre-op VED therapy helps. Post-op is another matter

LuisFernandez
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Re: Size after implant.

Postby LuisFernandez » Wed Jul 14, 2021 4:27 pm

Pquigs wrote:Paul Perito did my implant

He does a boatload. And got high reviews

Pq


In my research i would not choose Perito to maintain my size. First he mostly deals with retired men who don't mind not being aggressively sized.

Secondly, he does the infrapubic approach which is inferior when it comes to sizing.

Thanks for giving us some insights into his technique.
Born 1986. ED. Peyronie's.
Considering an Implant. Consulting with Dr. Eid.
Using Cialis 10mg/day + 20mg for sex. Injections of PGE-1.
See my story: viewtopic.php?t=15016

AST2123
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Re: Size after implant.

Postby AST2123 » Wed Jul 14, 2021 5:45 pm

LuisFernandez wrote:
Pquigs wrote:Paul Perito did my implant

He does a boatload. And got high reviews

Pq


Secondly, he does the infrapubic approach which is inferior when it comes to sizing.


Could you elaborate on (infrapubic approach which is inferior when it comes to sizing)? I don't understand why it is inferior in sizing.
Finally Bionic
52y old. RP Oct. 2017. Pills didn't work. Trimix failed after a couple of times. Have inguinal hernia repair on both sides. Implanted AMS CX, 21 cm+1 cm RTE, by Dr. Kai Li at KP, VA, Jan. 2021. New username FinallyBionic

wolfpacker
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Re: Size after implant.

Postby wolfpacker » Wed Jul 14, 2021 8:30 pm

AST2123 wrote:
LuisFernandez wrote:
Pquigs wrote:Paul Perito did my implant

He does a boatload. And got high reviews

Pq


Secondly, he does the infrapubic approach which is inferior when it comes to sizing.


Could you elaborate on (infrapubic approach which is inferior when it comes to sizing)? I don't understand why it is inferior in sizing.


This is copied from a document written by Dr Eid; I'll admit it doesn't elaborate much as to WHY the infrapubic approach is inferior, but does state that he believes the scrotal approach gives a longer length.

"Performing the surgery through a midline scrotal incision will not only result in a better cosmetic outcome (scar will be concealed by the natural raphe) but also will maximize length. Making a transverse incision above the penis or below the penis will result in a more distal (closer to the glans penis) incision onto the shaft of the penis often beyond the body plane or bodyline. Input cylinder tubes that exit the penis and connect the cylinders to the pump are more likely to be visible and palpable by the patient and partner. Scar tissue will also form on the part of the penis that is supposed to stretch with an erection decreasing the overall length of the erect penis. Regarding the "above the penis" surgical approach, tubing from the cylinders will exit the base of the shaft at the 12 o'clock position and make a 180 degree turn to reach the scrotal pump. This tubing will therefore be palpable at the base of the lateral aspect of the shaft of the penis on the right, may rub and be painful during intercourse and even limit the depth of penetration. This can be particularly annoying for the thin patient."
Early 30s with ED for years from penis enlargement stretching and jelqing. Implant by Dr Eid on 24 June 2021 with a Titan 24cm with +1cm RTE on one side and -1cm cut off on the other side

My journal: viewtopic.php?t=17202

LuisFernandez
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Re: Size after implant.

Postby LuisFernandez » Wed Jul 14, 2021 8:30 pm

AST2123 wrote:Could you elaborate on (infrapubic approach which is inferior when it comes to sizing)? I don't understand why it is inferior in sizing.


Sure:

Take a look as to why scrotal approach is better: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/25339138/

"Compared with infrapubic, transcrotal placement resulted in a longer total prosthesis (22.3 cm vs 20.6 cm, P < 0.0001), increased proximal dilation (10.1 cm vs 8.6 cm, P < 0.0001), longer RTEs (1.9 cm vs 1.2 cm, P < 0.0001) and larger reservoir fill volume (79 cc vs 71 cc, P = 0.0003)."
Born 1986. ED. Peyronie's.
Considering an Implant. Consulting with Dr. Eid.
Using Cialis 10mg/day + 20mg for sex. Injections of PGE-1.
See my story: viewtopic.php?t=15016

Gt1956
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Re: Size after implant.

Postby Gt1956 » Wed Jul 14, 2021 9:10 pm

I have to agree with Wolfpacker & Luis. My observation from members complaints is the tubing routing is totally bass ackwards. I've read of several members that reported that the tubing comes out forward, loops around the shaft not buried very deep. Then goes down to the pump. Deep thrusting can push the tubing into the shaft rather strongly on some men causing discomfort. Also, depending on anatomy, there is a chance of not having enough tubing to get the pump low enough to pump it very well. If the incision is too far out (distal?). Then to get the tubing to exit the incision correctly might encourage the doctor to use too many RTE's.
If you watch enough videos. You'll notice that most surgeons hold the tubing putting their finger on the tubing to implant junction to push the rear of the implant in. Thus on a pubic surgery, it is almost a given that the tubing will face forward which leads to the chance of my issues.
Just too many things have to go right for my taste. Why take several chances for an error to be made? Now having said all of that, I know that there are happy patients using this approach.
68yo, HBP at 40, high triglycerides at 45. Phimosis at 57. Type 2 at 60. Dr. William Brant May 1, 2023 CX 21cm w/no rte's penoscrotal 6" girth @ 6 months

AST2123
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Re: Size after implant.

Postby AST2123 » Fri Jul 16, 2021 3:34 pm

Thanks guys for your answers.
Since there are these 2 concepts around. There should be some Pros and Cons for each of them. From what I read above, it seems that penoscrotal is way better than the infrapubic, and accordingly, the latter could be used only when penoscrotal is not possible (not sure in which condition). I had an inguinal hernia surgery before, and the reservoir location was a kind of challenging. Was infrapubic recommended for this reason for me? What about others who got infrapubic, is it because of the faster healing compared to penoscrotal?
Finally Bionic
52y old. RP Oct. 2017. Pills didn't work. Trimix failed after a couple of times. Have inguinal hernia repair on both sides. Implanted AMS CX, 21 cm+1 cm RTE, by Dr. Kai Li at KP, VA, Jan. 2021. New username FinallyBionic


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