“It doesn’t feel like a real erection”

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Musson
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Re: “It doesn’t feel like a real erection”

Postby Musson » Sun Nov 28, 2021 4:21 pm

I suppose at a certain level she might be right but the same can be said about breast implants. Yes they are detectable but I’ve never complained.
63yr old. PDwith 40% dor. Curve. Pre-PD 7”x6”.lost 2 in. due to PD. ED prior to PD. Switched from Sildalifil to Trimix Nov 2023 . Currently titrating Trimix for optimization.

SW0110
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Re: “It doesn’t feel like a real erection”

Postby SW0110 » Sun Nov 28, 2021 7:15 pm

I was just wondering if she has experience before and after.

Otherwise her opinions matters about as much as a 3 dollar bill.

My wife has no problem with sex with an implant. She and I both come just as hard.

What a witch. And yep I used a w not a b. Figured spell check would hate me.
18 cm plus 1 rte titan installed March 2019. Revision March 2020 by Dr. Andrew Todd, Richmond KY. He replaced the titan with an AMS 700 LGX 18 cm cylinder plus 2 rte for 20 cm total length.

Lost Sheep
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Re: “It doesn’t feel like a real erection”

Postby Lost Sheep » Sun Nov 28, 2021 8:12 pm

defiant wrote:So this week I was speaking with an sexual health specialist who has a lot of experience with ED and implants and she has tried to steer me away from seeking out an implant quoting that they don’t feel like the real thing.
(edited for brevity)

So, do you agree or disagree with the statement?

Hmmm does "not feel like the real thing."

Partly agree and mostly disagree.

She could be right on some aspects. I wonder what studies she has been reading, though. Would she be willing to give you citations?

I have more to say but want to compose my thoughts well
Lost Sheep
AMS LGX 18+3 Nov 6, 2017
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JustAnotherYouth
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Re: “It doesn’t feel like a real erection”

Postby JustAnotherYouth » Sun Nov 28, 2021 10:19 pm

Alot of people are commenting that it doesn't feel like a natural erection. Would anyone care to elaborate? Does it feel artificial? Is ist just that its more rigid than a normal hard on? How exactly does ot feel different?

Lost Sheep
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Re: “It doesn’t feel like a real erection”

Postby Lost Sheep » Sun Nov 28, 2021 10:43 pm

Before I call your sexual health specialist out for whatever misanthopisy we might suspect or misinformation she has in her head I do have to acknowledge that the sensation I get is different after the implant operation than before ED (difficult to recall back that many years). Also, he sensations after implant are different than immediately before implant. But I believe the difference is more due to the process of inserting the implant (incisions and stretching my tissues and traumatizing my nerves) than what was inserted through those incisions.

My experience is that a few weeks and months after the operation my sensations were different to the point where orgasms were rare and difficult to achieve by masturbation, fellatio or coitus. After a year or so, orgasms were almost with every sexual coitus, but still rare with fellatio (whereas before implant, fellatio was very reliable at producing orgasms). Now, four years post-op my orgasms are almost as quick and regular as before E.D. But the ranking of fellatio above coitus in pleasure and reliability of orgasm has reversed and orgasm by fellatio is still not anywhere near 100%. Orgasm by coitus is 90%. Whether that is by age or by my erection not feeling "like the real thing" is uncertain. But if not feeling like the real thing is a factor or even a consideration is up to the patient. (Perhaps she was just trying to lower your expectations?)

In any event, I often feel I would be happy with my implant even if I felt nothing, since pleasuring my partner was my primary goal. Of course, that is an extreme position generated by the fact that in my early stages of E.D. I could penetrate my partners' vaginas and orgasm, but could not stay erect long enough for them to orgasm So i thought of the even more extreme solution; I considered the Faustian bargain of giving up ever having an orgasm for the rest of my life if I were able to give orgasms to my sexual partners every time, guaranteed. Of course, no wizard or devil offered this, so the point was academic. But your advisor seems to be suggesting you would be less than happy with an erection derived from an implant than from other solutions or staying as you are. (Begs the question of how much erectile funcgtion you retain right now with or without other aids, VED, medications, etc)

I did experience some changes. I will try to describe them. Fellatio (before the implant and after E.D.) was preferable to coitus before the implant (perhas becuase satisfaction was guaranteed), Fellatiow now ranks below coitus in the enjoyment scale. More intense, more satisfying and seems to empty my l"ibido bank" better. That last one is EXTREMELY subjective.

Aside from the orgasmic experience, there are many feelings in my penis when erect:

The shaft stiffness does not feel exactly like what I had when I was a teen. It does not increase in rigidity by itself. It does not keep pace with the increase in engorgement with my spongiosum.

The pressure of the tunica albuginea pressing on the inside of my glans feels like it did when I was a teen.

My flesh squishing up and down the tunica while thrusting does not seem the same, but I could not put the difference into words.

The feel of my spongiosum has not changed much that I can tell. Remember, the spongiosum is in no way involved with the implant and should not have been touched during the surgery if the pubic approach was done and minimally with the scrotal approach. Also remember that the tunica (even before E.D. and before the implant) has little to do with the feeling of an erection. There are very few nerve ending inside the tunica. The spongiosum, havmg more nerve endings, thus more to do with how it feels. And the skin has even more to do with feelings (and I hasten to point out, untouched by most surgeries).

If you have the chance to ask her, "What part of the feelings one has with in implant erection are unlike the feelings one has with a natural erection?" And, of course the two questions in my earlier post, "What studies support that contention and can she give you citations?

If you get any answers, please share them with us.
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Lost Sheep
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Re: “It doesn’t feel like a real erection”

Postby Lost Sheep » Sun Nov 28, 2021 10:53 pm

JustAnotherYouth wrote:Alot of people are commenting that it doesn't feel like a natural erection. Would anyone care to elaborate? Does it feel artificial? Is ist just that its more rigid than a normal hard on? How exactly does ot feel different?

These threads may shed some light on your question

Erection: Organic or Mechanical?
viewtopic.php?f=6&t=7738
Did you Lose sensitivity?
viewtopic.php?f=6&t=7735
Did you lose any sensitivity since implanted?
viewtopic.php?f=6&t=15860
Lost Sheep
AMS LGX 18+3 Nov 6, 2017
Prostate Cancer 2023
READ OLD THREADS-ask better questions -better understand answers
Be part of your medical team
Document pre-op size-photos and written records
Pre-op VED therapy helps. Post-op is another matter

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Re: “It doesn’t feel like a real erection”

Postby Bushpig » Mon Nov 29, 2021 4:33 am

I wonder if she has been with a Bionic guy to make that statement.
I am more than happy with mine - and it feels much better than before.
I dont think any guys would have issue with it if they have failed to get a rock hard natural one.
It's all good and more.
55 yo Aussie. E.D all my life. Used Viagra for years but. Went on to Injections which worked well but very inconvenient and didnt work sometimes. Implanted Jan'18 with Titan one touch 20cm/ 1.5RTE by Pro Chung in Brisbane.

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Re: “It doesn’t feel like a real erection”

Postby AST2123 » Mon Nov 29, 2021 10:36 am

What she says reflects a normal person opinion, not a doctor's one. I wonder how is addressing sexual problems.
Most of us had this idea about implants when we first heard of it. I was thinking how is the hell I am going to have this device in my body? And if you tell a woman that you are going to have sex with, that you are bionic, she will definitely reject. But if she discovered that after being (familiar) with, she will just say I LOVE IT.
So, this doctor gives the attitude of a (Layman) not a specialist.
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Re: “It doesn’t feel like a real erection”

Postby abhishek26 » Mon Nov 29, 2021 1:17 pm

AST2123 wrote:What she says reflects a normal person opinion, not a doctor's one. I wonder how is addressing sexual problems.
Most of us had this idea about implants when we first heard of it. I was thinking how is the hell I am going to have this device in my body? And if you tell a woman that you are going to have sex with, that you are bionic, she will definitely reject. But if she discovered that after being (familiar) with, she will just say I LOVE IT.
So, this doctor gives the attitude of a (Layman) not a specialist.

Not even a normal person bro, I’d suggest something more along the lines of an ignorant woman who obviously doesn’t know how an erection feels anyway. Although I myself am slightly skeptical of getting an implant, the testimonials regarding implant use and their amazing satisfaction only reassures me that getting one at the end of the day if absolutely necessary is not a bad idea at all.
24 y/o suffering from sudden onset of severe ED (from previously having no ED at all). perfectly normal penile doppler and blood/hormone/urine test results. UPDATE: diagnosed with tight pelvic floor dysfunction :roll:

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Re: “It doesn’t feel like a real erection”

Postby LeRoastBeef » Mon Nov 29, 2021 1:25 pm

It feels like the right thing to me, and I have one as a young chap.
I had my doubts that it would feel natural, the only part that doesn't feel natural is the pumping up, after that's done it's very much like the real thing, bugger doesn't go down until you want it too, full feeling, normal orgams, I fucking love it.

She's full of shit and not worth bothering with, dangerous actually. Get rid.
I'm not a sexual health expert, but I know a damn sight more about implants than she ever will.
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