Anyone talked to Dr. Kramer?

[Pamen116]

Just wondering if anyone’s heard from Dr Kramer recently? Is he still implanting

[crazyjoe]

He reportedly took a break then moved his practice to Cape Cod — in Barnstable. Look up Andrew Kramer.

[dg_moore]

He's practicing in Cape Cod. I recently exchanged emails with him.

[Pamen116]

Dude said he was going to start free trials using Rigicon but is now avoiding my questions via text. Typical Kramer

[cautiouslyoptimistic]

He implanted me a couple months ago and I’ve been in communication with him on and off ever since because I’ve had so many issues. I was going to write out a long detailed post about my experience with him and I will if anyone wants to hear it but for now I’ll just say I’m extremly unhappy and wish i never did it. If i had to give the whole experience with him and his office a letter grade it would be a D- and that’s probably being kind. I feel like I was scammed. I’m am inch shorter after surgery but it feels more like 3 inches shorter due to how he stitched me and also a massive tubing bulge at the base. I have tubing wrapped all the around the bottom third of my penis that causes a bulge and tremendous discomfort. For a relative comparison imagine having the cord from a phone charger tightly wrapped around your dick about an inch up on the shaft but instead of that rubbery material the cord was made from hard plastic. As much as I hated living with peyronies I’d go back to my old penis in a second.

[Pamen116]

He implanted me a couple months ago and I’ve been in communication with him on and off ever since because I’ve had so many issues. I was going to write out a long detailed post about my experience with him and I will if anyone wants to hear it but for now I’ll just say I’m extremly unhappy and wish i never did it. If i had to give the whole experience with him and his office a letter grade it would be a D- and that’s probably being kind. I feel like I was scammed. I’m am inch shorter after surgery but it feels more like 3 inches shorter due to how he stitched me and also a massive tubing bulge at the base. I have tubing wrapped all the around the bottom third of my penis that causes a bulge and tremendous discomfort. For a relative comparison imagine having the cord from a phone charger tightly wrapped around your dick about an inch up on the shaft but instead of that rubbery material the cord was made from hard plastic. As much as I hated living with peyronies I’d go back to my old penis in a second.

Hey cautiouslyoptimistic,

Yeah man I had a similar experience with him I’m sorry to hear this. What did he tell you about the tubing bulge? What are your options

[RoboCock69]

He implanted me a couple months ago and I’ve been in communication with him on and off ever since because I’ve had so many issues. I was going to write out a long detailed post about my experience with him and I will if anyone wants to hear it but for now I’ll just say I’m extremly unhappy and wish i never did it. If i had to give the whole experience with him and his office a letter grade it would be a D- and that’s probably being kind. I feel like I was scammed. I’m am inch shorter after surgery but it feels more like 3 inches shorter due to how he stitched me and also a massive tubing bulge at the base. I have tubing wrapped all the around the bottom third of my penis that causes a bulge and tremendous discomfort. For a relative comparison imagine having the cord from a phone charger tightly wrapped around your dick about an inch up on the shaft but instead of that rubbery material the cord was made from hard plastic. As much as I hated living with peyronies I’d go back to my old penis in a second.

That sucks, bro. I hope you can get some answers. FWIW, I'm six months out with my Perito implant and have had none of the issues described above. I also don't hear about many patients of Eid, Hakky, Clavell, or Karpman having many issues, either. That seems like the A-list at this point. I know Kramer is considered elite, and maybe he is, but most of the stuff I've read from his implantees has been negative.

[cautiouslyoptimistic]

He implanted me a couple months ago and I’ve been in communication with him on and off ever since because I’ve had so many issues. I was going to write out a long detailed post about my experience with him and I will if anyone wants to hear it but for now I’ll just say I’m extremly unhappy and wish i never did it. If i had to give the whole experience with him and his office a letter grade it would be a D- and that’s probably being kind. I feel like I was scammed. I’m am inch shorter after surgery but it feels more like 3 inches shorter due to how he stitched me and also a massive tubing bulge at the base. I have tubing wrapped all the around the bottom third of my penis that causes a bulge and tremendous discomfort. For a relative comparison imagine having the cord from a phone charger tightly wrapped around your dick about an inch up on the shaft but instead of that rubbery material the cord was made from hard plastic. As much as I hated living with peyronies I’d go back to my old penis in a second.

Hey cautiouslyoptimistic,

Yeah man I had a similar experience with him I’m sorry to hear this. What did he tell you about the tubing bulge? What are your options

@Pamen116 hey man, could describe your experience with him if you don’t mind. I’m glad to hear I’m not alone but I’m pissed at myself for not trusting my own instincts and going with him. There were so many questions and red flags for me prior to the surgery that should have been a clear sign to go elsewhere. I went against my better judgement and trusted opinions of people on peyroniesforum.net who have him listed as a “center of excellence” and said him and Dr. Eid and the two best in world. I wish i had found this forum prior to surgery. I would have gone with Dr. Eid but he’s not in my network and I couldn’t afford his price out of pocket. Kramer was in my network and the whole thing was covered but I hate the results. He tried so hard at the last follow-up visit to convince me this tubing issue is normal and that he wouldn’t do anything different or go in to fix it. He’s said the classic “it’s all in your head, try not to think about it, a girl wouldn’t notice it” type of bullshit.I’m just livid and idk how to go about getting a revision with my limited options of in network doctors.

@Robocock69 could you describe how your implant feels? I’m trying so hard to figure out how bad he fucked mine up. Do you feel any sort of tubing anywhere on your shaft? Like the bottom 2 inches of my dick feels like a giant hard plastic bulge on both sides. The right side is such a hard piece it feels like steel wrapped around my dick. He also stitched me too high so my dick feels 2 inches shorter. I had a 7 inch dick but because I had a vericocele for years i had that extra skin/turkey neck kinda thing. It admittedly wasn’t the prettiest thing to look at but it was part of my shaft. That extra skin is gone now along with about 2 inches of my shaft because he sewed it up way too high. I now have no extra space there where the sack meets the balls, it just connects way too high. The whole thing is so uncomfortable and unnatural feeling.

[Cnidium]

He implanted me a couple months ago and I’ve been in communication with him on and off ever since because I’ve had so many issues. I was going to write out a long detailed post about my experience with him and I will if anyone wants to hear it but for now I’ll just say I’m extremly unhappy and wish i never did it. If i had to give the whole experience with him and his office a letter grade it would be a D- and that’s probably being kind. I feel like I was scammed. I’m am inch shorter after surgery but it feels more like 3 inches shorter due to how he stitched me and also a massive tubing bulge at the base. I have tubing wrapped all the around the bottom third of my penis that causes a bulge and tremendous discomfort. For a relative comparison imagine having the cord from a phone charger tightly wrapped around your dick about an inch up on the shaft but instead of that rubbery material the cord was made from hard plastic. As much as I hated living with peyronies I’d go back to my old penis in a second.

Despite your suffering, I hope you know that by sharing this you are helping the community so much. Not to say that Kramer is bad because of one surgery, but each shared experience from each of us helps the rest of the community come to a consensus and helps individuals make decisions. I was torn between Eid and Kramer back in 2017. I had went with Eid, mostly from Merrix's journal.

I truly hope you can resolve this in some way. Stay strong.

I'll probably start a new thread soon regarding a recently developed curve in my implant (its not severe), and I will try to get the community to help me figure out who are the most trusted and best-result surgeons now. I have been off the forum mostly for almost 4 years, and new names I didnt see the past (like Hakky) are now all over the place. I really dont see Kramer much anymore.

[merrix]

I have said it before, and I think I have been proven right when I say it again. Kramer was for some reason possessing some kind of cult status on here in the past. He was praised as some kind of super-doc, super-human and could do no wrong. Even though over the years, there have been several cases reported on here of people who have got poor results from him. Sure, he was (don't think he is anymore) one of the absolute top-volume surgeons (probably right up there with Eid and Perito), but the number of failures reported on here was always much higher from his patients than e.g. Perito's and Eid's.
I, and this is of course personal opinion, furthermore always thought he came across as pretty arrogant and more of a sales guy than a doctor on his youtube vidoes. Too much ego for his own good as a doc would be my assessment without having ever met him.
Of course, when I brought this up in the past, I was ferociously hit by truckloads of Kramer-fans who despite all his fail stories on here claimed with the stubbornness of a fool that he was the best. "Because I got great results". So what. Even the worst implant surgeons in the world will probably have more good outcomes than bad ones. Nobody is so bad they fail all the time. So using myself and my individual good outcome as some kind of evidence that one particular doctor is great is of course nothing but unintelligent. Doctors are judged by the number of failures as a percentage of their total patient base. Not by one guy getting good results. But fact is still that out of the top volume docs, nobody has more fails reported on this site than Kramer.
What always amazed me about him was that even some of his patients who got poor results and needed revisions because of Kramer's mistakes still praised him. Because of his "bedside manners", empathy, etc. OK. Who gives a fuck? When you put your dick under the knife, what do your prefer? A socially incompetent bastard who gives you the best results or Mr white teeth smile guy who is the nicest guy on the planet but puts your pump way up the shaft of your dick?
That just builds on my opinion of him as an average surgeon at best with a great sense of business. He has marketed himself in a way that created a hype around him which way surpassed his surgical results.
The recent events with him getting bad press about the rape trial, being fired, changing clinics a few times, going underground, not being in business for various reasons, etc just confirms again that he is not a reliable doctor with his ethics and morale in the right place.
When I did my research for surgeons, I remember I was sceptical to Perito for his stories about porn clubs and one severely botched guy who I think in the end lost his dick, but compared to Kramer, Perito seems a million miles ahead Kramer in the reliability and morale department. And if I would have to choose between those two for my revision, it wouldn't even be a contest. Perito seven days a week.
Finally, it was common knowledge here on FT a while ago that during this Kramer hype, there were several fake accounts singing the Kramer praise. When this was found out, his fan base drastically decreased all of a sudden.
Whether those fake accounts were administrated by himself, his staff, or whatever - it still just adds to his very, very dubious character.