Real Talk; Who has been rejected due to their IPP

[RoboCock69]

This thread has degenerated into , how do I pump it up discretely. The original post was do I tell right away. As for discrete pumping. If I was out pussy hunting I would go 70% pumped. I can go all day at 70%. Some girl touches my 70% hard, she is going to be impressed and know am ready to fuck. It only takes a few pumps to get to 90% from there. 100% on me is harder than anything natural. Maybe because my hands are very strong. 100% on me is absolutely not bendable, like a glass dildo with human skin over it. The pressure starts to hurt me after about 20 minutes. As for first encounters and telling first, I think I would let the girl get a feel of it inside her before I tell her what I have. I don't think any girl that wants to fuck would ever be turned off from in implant.

As someone who keeps my implant fully deflated except for sex, jerking, and cycling, this post intrigues me. If you were out chasing pussy with a 70% boner, how would you conceal it? 6.5 isn't going to put Ron Jeremy out of business, but it isn't small, either. If it were sticking out, it would probably be easily noticeable. Would you point it up and pin it in your waistband like Jonah Hill in Superbad, or can you still bend it downward or to the side at that rigidity without too much pain? I might have to try this one weekend soon. My M.O. to this point has been to excuse myself to piss once a makeout session seems imminent or has begun, THEN pump it to 70-80% and tuck it upward. Then finish pumping to full hardness while eating pussy.

[merrix]

Another long debated topic over the years here...
Will she find out you're implanted, how can it be avoided, what happens when she finds out, do I tell her, will she accept it, how do I tell her, etc.

My answer, which is perhaps not what some potential implantees want to see, is this:
It doesn't matter.
I think I'll say it again.
It doesn't matter.

Because if you can't get hard, you'll never have sex. If you try, you'll inevitably get rejected in one way or another because you just can't get that dick up long enough to fuck her.
She will always find out/detect that you're an impotent bastard who can't fuck her.
You can't hide that.

So that's the baseline, that's where we're at today.
Remember that.
Baseline is not a porn star, your buddy fucking around, or even your dad fucking your mom.
Baseline is you've got shit.

So then you get implanted.
Now you're always going to be 30-60 seconds away from the hardest dick your girl has ever had.
30-60 seconds away from the longest lasting sex she's ever had.
30-60 seconds away from 100% reliability.
Will she notice you're different?
She will most likely notice you're harder, don't even need foreplay to get hard (when she steps out of the shower and you're already ready), and can continue to fuck her for another orgasm after you already came.
Will she notice there's something artificial about you?
Yeah maybe. If she touches your scrotum, or if she sees you pumping.

But would you rather take the (small) risk of this chain of events happening:
She touches your scrotum. Definitely a risk.
She actually feels the pump. Some risk.
She decides to risk the built up atmosphere by asking what it is. Small risk.
Despite you saying "Never mind, I had an accident many years ago, just keep going, all is good" - she will stop and keep asking. Extremely unlikely.

Than taking the 100% risk of this one:
You get her in bed.
She wants to fuck.
Your crap dick goes down.
No sex.
You feel like shit.

When in reality, the most likely alternative as an implanted man versus the first chain of events is:
You hook up.
You're 25% inflated.
You make out, she touches your dick and smiles.
She says she needs to go freshen up.
You pump up till as hard as you can while wearing clothes.
She comes back.
You undress, your dick is hard enough for blowjob.
She sucks your dick.
She doesn't feel your pump, or she does but doesn't say anything.
You lick her pussy, tops up till baseball bat level.
Fuck her for longer than she's ever been fucked before.

[Lost Sheep]

Yeah, Merrix has it about right. An implanted man is less likely (by far) to be rejected than an impotent man.

At some point, she is almost certain to know you have an implant.

1) before she decides you are a candidate to have sex with
2) before she decides to have sex with you if you ask
3) after she decides to have sex with you
4) after sex has begun (undressing, foreplay, etc)
5) after clothes are off and she can see your penis (erect or not yet inflated)
6) after your penis is in her mouth
7) after your penis is in her vagina
8) during coitus before you have ejaculated
9) during coitus after you have ejaculated and are still erect (and continuing coitus)
10) after coitus and you are remaining erect inside her
11) after coitus and you might be engaging in an after-action review

In that continuum of events there are decision points at which she may change her mind and reject sex with you. Pretty much, past #3 or #4 there is very little that will change a woman's mind unless she has some unalterable aversion to sex with a cyborg. After #3, you have passed almost all her intellectual barriers to sex. After #4, endorphins have begun to affect her reasoning processes and she has passed almost all barriers to changing her mind.

After #5, she may or may not discover on her own that you are implanted, but it is HIGHLY unlikely she will call a permanent halt to the proceedings. She may call a temporary halt to ask about it. How you respond COULD cause her to reject you if you are objectional. But if you are reasonably sane you will not react badly, but reassuringly.

I have had sex with women who knew long before #1 that I was functionally impotent and on the road to an implant. So, I conclude that the implant is, at worst, a non-issue if you conduct the reveal in a gentlemanly manner.

[josemaria]

Do women tell when they have breast implants?
If they don't, then I believe we don't have too!
If she likes it and notices you are different, then maybe tell her. Like a lot have been saying, once she tries it, she will not complaint...

[Musson]

This thread is certainly inspiring some nostalgia. Let me list the reasons I’ve been rejected:

1). Vitiligo on my testicles
2). Being too big. Twice. Both Asian women
3). Being too small. Once by a size queen that preferred black men. I’m white.
4). Being too drunk
5). Being too ugly. Tinder date and she was a dog. Talk about a blow to my ego
6). Acne. I had an unfortunate acne outbreak in my early 20s. Girlfriend dumped me. Later looked me up after decades and said it was the biggest mistake of her life and she thought about me daily for years.
7). Admitting I was married

Never because of ED. Always able to take a pill.

[Lost Sheep]

Do women tell when they have breast implants?
If they don't, then I believe we don't have too!
If she likes it and notices you are different, then maybe tell her. Like a lot have been saying, once she tries it, she will not complaint...

I don't believe the issue of breast implants is comparable to penile implants. Breast implants do not affect sexual function and are largely visual. Penile implants are functional and have very little visual worth to women.

A more apt comparison would be a woman needing vaginal lubricant (e.g. K-Y jelly) to have decent sex just as an E.D. man needs an artificial assist (in this dicussion, an implant) to be able to have decent sex.

Would you reject a willing woman if she told you before a hookup that she needed some lube?

Your last line, however, is likely very true.

[JP1977]

To Lost sheep, why WOULD you bring it up beforehand? Did you ever feel the need to tell a woman you were dating that you took viagra? Or worse, injections?

If you were in a situation when you and her are undressing, foreplay, etc., and she reaches for your flaccid dick. Might want to tell her why you're grabbing and pumping on your balls to get hard. She's not gonna be used to that.

I have some ideas about how I'd tell her. Something like, "long story, but my dick needed an implant and now it can stay hard for as long as you want it to be." Be attractive to her and she won't mind.

Viagra and injections are easy to discreetly hide. Pumping your balls isn't. My doctor told me implant advice in the past has been a "going to the bathroom before" thing, I said I didn't really get how that works leaving the bathroom erect, and he told me it's kinda older advice for older people, honestly.

I am at hedonism right now, I’ve been 98% successful in concealing it even in sexual situations.
Excuse yourself to the bathroom for a minute or pump it while going down on her or pump it in the pool carefully so nobody sees. I say 98% because my buddy called me out because he knew about implants and had another friend with one. He loved it and kept calling me a fucking rockstar…..his wife loved it even more and she fully knew about it.
I’ve gotten quite a name for myself this week and I have had women grab it and say “how do you do THAT?” I’ve been asked what kind of pills or injections I’m on. I just say none, this is just me.
And that’s the truth, this is just me. Nothing weird or different, just me with a penis that works really really really well.
This is OUR world (the swing world), as for someone who is dating someone I see zero reason at all to tell that person before you have sex. It’s just you. Let her believe you are the rockstar she thinks you are…..and trust me, she will give you those eyes after you rock her world like nobody else has. Then IF you wind up in a more serious relationship, let the secret out. I guarantee she will accept it whole heartedly after. Tell her before hand and she won’t be able to picture it. Her imagination will turn it into something freakish because she won’t be able to see in her minds eye that it DOES look the same. It’s the same horrible thoughts that went through my head when my urologist told me I might need one.
So my advice, normalize it. Learn to put it up discretely. Learn how to use it well! And have fun

Nothing up my sleeves!

[Lost Sheep]

To Lost sheep, why WOULD you bring it up beforehand? Did you ever feel the need to tell a woman you were dating that you took viagra? Or worse, injections?

If you were in a situation when you and her are undressing, foreplay, etc., and she reaches for your flaccid dick. Might want to tell her why you're grabbing and pumping on your balls to get hard. She's not gonna be used to that.

I have some ideas about how I'd tell her. Something like, "long story, but my dick needed an implant and now it can stay hard for as long as you want it to be." Be attractive to her and she won't mind.

Viagra and injections are easy to discreetly hide. Pumping your balls isn't. My doctor told me implant advice in the past has been a "going to the bathroom before" thing, I said I didn't really get how that works leaving the bathroom erect, and he told me it's kinda older advice for older people, honestly.

I am at hedonism right now, I’ve been 98% successful in concealing it even in sexual situations.
Excuse yourself to the bathroom for a minute or pump it while going down on her or pump it in the pool carefully so nobody sees. I say 98% because my buddy called me out because he knew about implants and had another friend with one. He loved it and kept calling me a fucking rockstar…..his wife loved it even more and she fully knew about it.
I’ve gotten quite a name for myself this week and I have had women grab it and say “how do you do THAT?” I’ve been asked what kind of pills or injections I’m on. I just say none, this is just me.
And that’s the truth, this is just me. Nothing weird or different, just me with a penis that works really really really well.
This is OUR world (the swing world), as for someone who is dating someone I see zero reason at all to tell that person before you have sex. It’s just you. Let her believe you are the rockstar she thinks you are…..and trust me, she will give you those eyes after you rock her world like nobody else has. Then IF you wind up in a more serious relationship, let the secret out. I guarantee she will accept it whole heartedly after. Tell her before hand and she won’t be able to picture it. Her imagination will turn it into something freakish because she won’t be able to see in her minds eye that it DOES look the same. It’s the same horrible thoughts that went through my head when my urologist told me I might need one.
So my advice, normalize it. Learn to put it up discretely. Learn how to use it well! And have fun

Nothing up my sleeves!

But something definitely up your pants leg!

You make a good point, causing me to revisit my thoughts on the matter. Thanks. My go-to default is to tell up front somewhere between first physical intimacy (deep kiss, usually) and one of us accepting an invitation (explicit or implicit) for sex. But you talking about "normalizing" it and what foreknowledge of the implant would do to her expectations and how that knowledge (before experiencing sex with me) will affect how she will look at me forevermore....Well that is making me think. Thanks again. I am learning, which is the second reason I stay active on the site.

[JP1977]

If you were in a situation when you and her are undressing, foreplay, etc., and she reaches for your flaccid dick. Might want to tell her why you're grabbing and pumping on your balls to get hard. She's not gonna be used to that.

I have some ideas about how I'd tell her. Something like, "long story, but my dick needed an implant and now it can stay hard for as long as you want it to be." Be attractive to her and she won't mind.

Viagra and injections are easy to discreetly hide. Pumping your balls isn't. My doctor told me implant advice in the past has been a "going to the bathroom before" thing, I said I didn't really get how that works leaving the bathroom erect, and he told me it's kinda older advice for older people, honestly.

I am at hedonism right now, I’ve been 98% successful in concealing it even in sexual situations.
Excuse yourself to the bathroom for a minute or pump it while going down on her or pump it in the pool carefully so nobody sees. I say 98% because my buddy called me out because he knew about implants and had another friend with one. He loved it and kept calling me a fucking rockstar…..his wife loved it even more and she fully knew about it.
I’ve gotten quite a name for myself this week and I have had women grab it and say “how do you do THAT?” I’ve been asked what kind of pills or injections I’m on. I
But something definitely up your pants leg!

You make a good point, causing me to revisit my thoughts on the matter. Thanks. My go-to default is to tell up front somewhere between first physical intimacy (deep kiss, usually) and one of us accepting an invitation (explicit or implicit) for sex. But you talking about "normalizing" it and what foreknowledge of the implant would do to her expectations and how that knowledge (before experiencing sex with me) will affect how she will look at me forevermore....Well that is making me think. Thanks again. I am learning, which is the second reason I stay active on the site.

We all have something up our pant legs now brother!

I stay active on here and on other pages to help others as much as I can. The same way everyone here helped me. Franktalk and the people posting on it really saved me in my time of need. If I can help any other man see light through that horrible, scary darkness….it makes me very happy!
Plus I have a unique perspective as a swinger that I didn’t see as much of here. So hopefully I can help that way too!
I am also still learning!

[Fourtytwo00]

I'm preatty sure you can have sex and find someone which is ok with your new dick. I read a lot of good stories from guys who are in their 30ies or 40ies.

I guess buyer remorse could happen because one of the following:
- ED sucks but it's somehow manageable with PDE5s, moving from apartially satisfied pill user to an even less satisfied implanted doesn't sound good;
- You've got just one wife and at the of the day she doesn't like it so much or she feels it different.
- You've got just one wife and ED turned her off and she's not so interested in reconnecting. Ending up with a car your partner isn't so interested to drive could be an issue.

I guess buyer remorse could be more difficult to overcome if you've got a wife, a family and things don't work very well or as expected after.