Even with the top surgeons the chance of infection for us young guys is almost 10%

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Re: Even with the top surgeons the chance of infection for us young guys is almost 10%

Postby darkflame » Thu Jul 07, 2022 12:38 am

Lost Sheep wrote:
darkflame wrote:
516430203 wrote:do you regret it?



If I get an infection I will 100% regret it.

I am very torn right now, maybe I need someone to shove a xanax in me but the anxiety of having a ticking time bomb in me is terrifying. Hard to build a life around.

When the ticking gets so loud that it interferes with your sex life (which you would NOT HAVE HAD WITHOUT THE IMPLANT) then consider not replacing a failed implant.

Look at it this way. Suppose no revisions were possible at all and an implant would let you have good sex for 10 years, period.

Would you rather have those 10 years in your 30s or in your 70s?




I guess, I just don't want my dick to eventually make me a societal outcast again. Having something wrong with your dick underlines every single experience you have with other people. You lie to yourself and say that you can be confident regardless, but there is a physical reality to all of this that is impossible to ignore. Having already experienced this in my early 20's the prospect of going through it again after tasting a little bit of what normal people get to experience is horrifying.

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Re: Even with the top surgeons the chance of infection for us young guys is almost 10%

Postby 516430203 » Thu Jul 07, 2022 2:00 am

At least,your implant still work great ,you just need to enjoy your life,when it get broken,find a doc to fix it,even someday maybe you have an infection,but the normal life when you hava an implant still worth.please forgive my english,and i m also a young guy,in my country,we do not have a doc like eid or hakky.

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Re: Even with the top surgeons the chance of infection for us young guys is almost 10%

Postby AllHailTed » Thu Jul 07, 2022 4:26 am

darkflame wrote:I ran the calculation assuming that I will live to 80.

Makes me want to die honestly.


I don't dispute your arithmetic, but can you stop for a moment and read to yourself what you've written here?

You're saying that you want to die because there is a less than 1 in 10 chance of dealing with infection? Which, if it even happens at all (>90% chance it won't), will most likely be when you're well into old age? I don't mean to sound dismissive, particularly as I am not implanted myself, but I think you are blowing this out of proportion.

Also, for the 10% figure to hold water, you would need to have upwards of 10 revisions - unlikely to happen unless you got extremely unlucky and consistently needed a revision every 5 years, for decades. It's more likely you'll need around 5-6 if that, bringing your lifetime infection risk to ~5% (in reality much lower in the next few decades whilst you're young and still in your sexual prime) - again, easy for me to say as I'm not implanted, but I quite like those odds.

And all this assuming that medical technology does not budge one bit in the next 30 to 50 years, with no progress in fighting infection rates and improving implant lifespans.

Please feel free to correct me if you think I am wrong or being insensitive, but I think giving up on life just because you run a small risk of losing size due to infection, most likely in your 60's/70's (when sex won't even matter to you as much as your libido dries up) if it even happens at all, is throwing the baby out with the bathwater.
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Re: Even with the top surgeons the chance of infection for us young guys is almost 10%

Postby SquadCaptain74 » Thu Jul 07, 2022 8:33 am

RELAX!

Why do people intentionally get spun up/attempt to spin up everyone from some "Internet find."

Fact: probability of infection is low. Period.
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Re: Even with the top surgeons the chance of infection for us young guys is almost 10%

Postby bionicbrother » Thu Jul 07, 2022 10:37 am

Live in the present. When you think of the future (on what might happen or even a certainty it will happen) you lose your peace and current happiness.. You go the implant for a reason enjoy while it lasts - what might happen in the future is not in your hands but you have a strong one in your hands right now and better hold tight and make best use of it buddy.. Regret it when it happens(if you want to) now Enjoy life.. Life is to live at the fullest.

My mantra for happiness - Everything goddamn thing is figureoutable...
40 yrs old. Have ED and PE all my life. Never had penetrative sex all my life. Tried almost all kinds of options( pills, injections, natural therapies etc. Turned Bionic on May 17'22 with Titan by Dr.Karpman infrapubic approach.16cm+2 RTE

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Re: Even with the top surgeons the chance of infection for us young guys is almost 10%

Postby defiant » Thu Jul 07, 2022 1:04 pm

I’ve asked one of the very top implant surgeons in the world this very question.

If virgin implant infection risk is <1% and revision risk is approx 2%, does that mean it goes up by 2% each time.

Categorical answer was no, each revision remains 2% infection risk.

Stop reading shit on the Internet.
37, mild to moderate ED since age 21, 3 Dopplers - 1 result VL & 3 later results 'no physical problem', dependent on cialis (efficacy now waning), overcame Lymophoma at age 26, ED causing immense/profound psychological distress. Considering implant.

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Re: Even with the top surgeons the chance of infection for us young guys is almost 10%

Postby Old Guy » Thu Jul 07, 2022 1:24 pm

I'm no doctor but I did deal with wounds in my days. Most infections resulted from the person not caring for the wound like they were instructed by the doctor. Keeping any open areas or incisions clean is most important.
In my days there was one guy, a nursing home resident in his 80's, who's implant got infected. Can't say how long he had it, but this was maybe 2015. The nurses finally told me the story that his girlfriend nicked him one night and he didn't say anything to about it. Until it hurt so bad he was stretched out to the ER.
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Re: Even with the top surgeons the chance of infection for us young guys is almost 10%

Postby Gt1956 » Thu Jul 07, 2022 1:28 pm

Credit to Allhaited.
"Also, for the 10% figure to hold water, you would need to have upwards of 10 revisions - unlikely to happen unless you got extremely unlucky and consistently needed a revision every 5 years, for decades. It's more likely you'll need around 5-6 if that, bringing your lifetime infection risk to ~5% (in reality much lower in the next few decades whilst you're young and still in your sexual prime) - again, easy for me to say as I'm not implanted, but I quite like those odds.
And all this assuming that medical technology does not budge one bit in the next 30 to 50 years, with no progress in fighting infection rates and improving implant lifespans."

I like your attitude. His revision frequency is way too pessimistic. What says he'll want sex or even have a partner at 80. Absolutely no thought given to engineered antibiotics or any other infection control improvements in the future.
He is missing the key element in his statics. Every roll of the dice has a 1 in 6 chance of any given number. In the end analysis, his flawed thinking still means that his chances of NOT getting an infection is 90%. Doesn't sound so bad when said like that.
I've told this story before. A co working had a knee replacement & it worked perfectly. The other knee took five replacements to get one that worked right.
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Re: Even with the top surgeons the chance of infection for us young guys is almost 10%

Postby darkflame » Thu Jul 07, 2022 1:34 pm

defiant wrote:I’ve asked one of the very top implant surgeons in the world this very question.

If virgin implant infection risk is <1% and revision risk is approx 2%, does that mean it goes up by 2% each time.

Categorical answer was no, each revision remains 2% infection risk.

Stop reading shit on the Internet.



Math really needs to be taught in schools better. Please review my original post. My math is solid. Never said it goes up by 2% each time.

The only spot in my math that I could have been more charitable is by giving the implant a longer lifespan.

5-10% is the lifetime infection risk for young men in their early twenties getting implanted. If you want to offer an alternative opinion besides misinterpreting my math please go ahead.

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Re: Even with the top surgeons the chance of infection for us young guys is almost 10%

Postby Gt1956 » Thu Jul 07, 2022 1:37 pm

Old Guy wrote:I'm no doctor but I did deal with wounds in my days. Most infections resulted from the person not caring for the wound like they were instructed by the doctor. Keeping any open areas or incisions clean is most important.
In my days there was one guy, a nursing home resident in his 80's, who's implant got infected. Can't say how long he had it, but this was maybe 2015. The nurses finally told me the story that his girlfriend nicked him one night and he didn't say anything to about it. Until it hurt so bad he was stretched out to the ER.

It can be the simplest injury. My wife had a caesarean birth, a growth removed from that scar. Many surgeries for endometriosis. At least two for adhesions, her gall bladder removed. At least 2 if not 3 partial hysterectomies. Never an infection. She gets an injection in her abdomen by a doctor in her office & gets a staph infection that took months to clear up. A simple needle poke did it.
68yo, HBP at 40, high triglycerides at 45. Phimosis at 57. Type 2 at 60. Dr. William Brant May 1, 2023 CX 21cm w/no rte's penoscrotal 6" girth @ 6 months


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