Not convinced about implant

[MK1965]

I recieved a call from a Boston Scientific representative and we concluded the same. My dr that does implants told me to hold myself a little longer. Its not that I don't consider one, but there is lots of downside like some mention here. Yes I come for advise but the same way people mention that regenerative therapy doesn't work, they also conclud that penile implant is way behind. There are men with implants that still use VED and cialis to engorged the gland. So chill, relax this is not a debate but rather that men should bring this complaint to the ones behind studing implants

1380anthony,
You did not to come here for advice, no way. You gave a lesson about implants being bad and started trushing and bushing all implants.
You came to FT with negative and bad attitude. I don’t suggest for you to get implant at all, because and because you will never be happy.
Keep your limp dick. I will keep my implant.
MK

[1380anthony]

[quote="MK1965"]I recieved a call from a Boston Scientific representative and we concluded the same. My dr that does implants told me to hold myself a little longer. Its not that I don't consider one, but there is lots of downside like some mention here. Yes I come for advise but the same way people mention that regenerative therapy doesn't work, they also conclud that penile implant is way behind. There are men with implants that still use VED and cialis to engorged the gland. So chill, relax this is not a debate but rather that men should bring this complaint to the ones behind studing implants

1380anthony,
You did not to come here for advice, no way. You gave a lesson about implants being bad and started trushing and bushing all implants.
You came to FT with negative and bad attitude. I don’t suggest for you to get implant at all, because and because you will never be happy.
Keep your limp dick. I will keep my implant.
MK[/quote

I dont have a limp dick, I only leave some leakage. I never said it doesn't work, but these companies should improve there products and worry more about their patients. That's all. I probably do one soon, but Im upset because they haven't advanced to a more futuristic device.
Dude, you're over 50yo, you have nothing to lose. Relax !!!

[Lost Sheep]

1380anthony, Thank you for the link. It was to the same web site I found, but not to the particular device I think you had in mind. The veno-occlusive device they describe does look very promising (much more so than the surgeries that attempt to achieve the same result, but which slowly lose effectiveness over time). The promise of the device (and seems to me to be a valid claim) is that since it is used intermittently, the chronic loss of effectiveness of the surgeries that do the same thing is not at all likely. However, it seems that no clinical trials have been performed yet? Nor is it available for use. So, the inflatable implant remains the best option for even partially impotent men The fact this device would enable a man with sufficient arterial flow to get an erection from his own blood supply is VERY hopeful. Congratulations on finding this source and thanks for bringing it to the attention of members of FrankTalk.

Having said that, I must point out some of the harsh reception you received must be due to a number of very human factors. No one who has undergone irreversible surgery likes to have it pointed out that there was an alternative. Never mind the fact that the alternative was not yet available. It also appears that your research was rather thin and the major piece was from a commercial web site which has an incentive to put the best possible face on the facts.

On the idea of further research for you to do, I recall one peer-reviewed medical journal article that found 50% of implanted men reported some return of erectile function after implant. The supposition being that the implant reduced the venous leakage by some compression allowing remaining erectile function to be the best it could be. One of the men even was able to get an erection just firm enough to have penetrative sex without inflating the implant. Alas, I do not have the link handy. But reading legitimate peer-reviewed academic medical journals is more reliable than promotional informational web sites. Not to cast a shadow on their worth-they are informative about future research and developments.

So, I urge you to not be discouraged in your search for reliable knowledge and facts and your search for innovations and hope. ED has made many of us skeptical. I admire your enthusiasm on discovering such a hopeful web site. I hope the doses of reality you received do not dampen than enthusiasm.

[Fourtytwo00]

prp have been sold as valid up to 75%, the reality a few years later is that they are a scam made by the vast majority of urologists / andrologists

Thats complete bullshit. I had PRP back in 2013 and it worked like a miracle so dont know what youre talking about

Please tell us a little bit more about your PRP story.

[ShouldIwait]

About 2 weeks ago, I had an FT user call me, researching implants.
His final question, should he get one?
I told him "NO", but not because of the implants themselves, but because he has not tried everything under the sun, so to speak.
He and I are the same age, recently went through a divorce, and is now seeing someone new. His anxiety about performing to his new GF has him worried. He has tried pills, the pellets, and rings. What he has not tried is Tri or Bi mix. It was recommended to him, but the thought of sticking a needle in his dick was just too much.
As a former Bimix user, I told him he would get over it after the first couple of self injections.
Told him that the IPP is really a last ditch effort to perform and not something you can take back. The downsides I told him were the flexibility and suppleness of what you originally had.
Pros and cons to everything, but just keep researching. If you are not ready, then don't!

Well said.
I loved biMix and would never have gone IPP if it keep working like the first year
Tragic shame to not at least try before the final solution...

[frank66665]

prp have been sold as valid up to 75%, the reality a few years later is that they are a scam made by the vast majority of urologists / andrologists

Thats complete bullshit. I had PRP back in 2013 and it worked like a miracle so dont know what youre talking about

i hope you are not the only one on planet earth, you are the first i feel it worked, i'm all ears listening to your story

[frank66665]

About 2 weeks ago, I had an FT user call me, researching implants.
His final question, should he get one?
I told him "NO", but not because of the implants themselves, but because he has not tried everything under the sun, so to speak.
He and I are the same age, recently went through a divorce, and is now seeing someone new. His anxiety about performing to his new GF has him worried. He has tried pills, the pellets, and rings. What he has not tried is Tri or Bi mix. It was recommended to him, but the thought of sticking a needle in his dick was just too much.
As a former Bimix user, I told him he would get over it after the first couple of self injections.
Told him that the IPP is really a last ditch effort to perform and not something you can take back. The downsides I told him were the flexibility and suppleness of what you originally had.
Pros and cons to everything, but just keep researching. If you are not ready, then don't!

Well said.
I loved biMix and would never have gone IPP if it keep working like the first year
Tragic shame to not at least try before the final solution...

your honest comment is highly appreciated

[frank66665]

1380anthony, Thank you for the link. It was to the same web site I found, but not to the particular device I think you had in mind. The veno-occlusive device they describe does look very promising (much more so than the surgeries that attempt to achieve the same result, but which slowly lose effectiveness over time). The promise of the device (and seems to me to be a valid claim) is that since it is used intermittently, the chronic loss of effectiveness of the surgeries that do the same thing is not at all likely. However, it seems that no clinical trials have been performed yet? Nor is it available for use. So, the inflatable implant remains the best option for even partially impotent men The fact this device would enable a man with sufficient arterial flow to get an erection from his own blood supply is VERY hopeful. Congratulations on finding this source and thanks for bringing it to the attention of members of FrankTalk.

Having said that, I must point out some of the harsh reception you received must be due to a number of very human factors. No one who has undergone irreversible surgery likes to have it pointed out that there was an alternative. Never mind the fact that the alternative was not yet available. It also appears that your research was rather thin and the major piece was from a commercial web site which has an incentive to put the best possible face on the facts.

On the idea of further research for you to do, I recall one peer-reviewed medical journal article that found 50% of implanted men reported some return of erectile function after implant. The supposition being that the implant reduced the venous leakage by some compression allowing remaining erectile function to be the best it could be. One of the men even was able to get an erection just firm enough to have penetrative sex without inflating the implant. Alas, I do not have the link handy. But reading legitimate peer-reviewed academic medical journals is more reliable than promotional informational web sites. Not to cast a shadow on their worth-they are informative about future research and developments.

So, I urge you to not be discouraged in your search for reliable knowledge and facts and your search for innovations and hope. ED has made many of us skeptical. I admire your enthusiasm on discovering such a hopeful web site. I hope the doses of reality you received do not dampen than enthusiasm.

Your comments are always appreciated for me the flagship, could you tell me the scientific magazines on the progress of the systems to subscribe to me online or to buy at newsstands

[TalkFrankly]

Used Propecia for hair loss and boom!!!

Maybe try this in your dick.[/quote]
No. It was propecia what caused the fibrosis and ed. I came for the to topics men using finasteride need implants due to veno-occlusive ED.[/quote]

I was being sarcastic

[slipnslider]

For the past days I have been researching about implant with real cases here, FB and other social media and there is just too many downsides about it. In reality the satisfaction rate is 70% and drops even more for those with penile implants due to mechanical failure and infections. These penile implants have been around for more than 40 years and has no advance maybe because science is too focused in discovering Mars. The more you buy a $8,000 silicone product with saline water, the less Boston Scientific and Coloplast care to make a better, durable and technological product. What a shame!! You stop buying these products they will be motivated to invent something more futuristic and better. I read about loss of size, girth, dog ears, bending when inflating...

I've researching Implantica PotencyFlow, and it seems to be the implant that should have been invented years back. These inplant companies want to sell selll sell and sell and no matter what method they use for implant it seems that the muscles surrounding the tunica albuginea are being damaged too. It's all about money and these companies are gretting rich with cheap products.
ED is a disease tbat has been around since the beginning of mankind and these scientists fail to find a cure by fixing the damaged tissue of the corpus cavernosum and nerves. There is a study that the corpus cavernosum can be rebuilt in mice and it worked. ED is mostly caused by collegen replacing smooth muscle cells( scar tissue) fibrosis. This is just my opinion. For a 30yo with implant, how many implants does he need during his whole life. 4-5???

Used Propecia for hair loss and have PFS. Sucks!!

I've been doing shockwaves, tadalafil daily 5mg,VED, arginine, citrulline, resveratrol ect

Propecia is what broke my dick as well. What a crime that stuff is. I started having problems around your age after using propecia for a year or two. I quit the stuff but my dick never recovered.

I agree the failure rate on implants is depressingly high. And the satisfaction rate is probably fudged a bit too. Just like the propecia company says only 1% of guys get ED, it's actually way higher.

Implantica PotencyFlow sounds like a potential game changer if it works. But the fact that the only info on the web about it is from the company itself is concerning. If it was really a potential solution, you'd think there would be way more people talking about it. If you can get by using pills or injections for a few years (more likely at least a decade), it might be worth waiting to see if something useful comes from that company. Only problem is, it sounds like you need to be able to still get an erection to use that device, which then traps the blood in the penis. Many guys can't do that. But if you can still fill your dick with blood in 10 years or whenever their product comes out, that sounds like a much better option.