vinpocetine (cavinton forte)

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timduncan
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vinpocetine (cavinton forte)

Postby timduncan » Wed Jan 11, 2023 11:10 am

vinpocetine, farmaceutical grade (the drug is called cavinton forte)

its a cerebral vasodilator, should help with erections and also sexdrive.

any feedback?

its labeled for the treatment of cerebral vascular insufficiency in patients with coronary heart disease and arterial hypertension, dementia, cerebral spasm, etc

also has a very safe profile.

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Re: vinpocetine (cavinton forte)

Postby Flavio » Wed Jan 11, 2023 3:35 pm

Brilliant tip!

Is it easy to get in the US?

In the US, vinpocetine is allowed to be included in dietary supplements, but its status is controversial and may change.

More on this:

Vinpocetine is a man-made chemical similar to a substance found in the periwinkle plant (Vinca minor). In Europe, it's sold as a drug called Cavinton.

https://www.webmd.com/vitamins/ai/ingre ... inpocetine
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Age 40. Psychogenic ED for over 20 years. Current regimen: Udenafil 200 mg, oral phentolamine mesylate 40 mg, Seredyn.

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Re: vinpocetine (cavinton forte)

Postby Flavio » Wed Jan 11, 2023 3:37 pm

Age 40. Psychogenic ED for over 20 years. Current regimen: Udenafil 200 mg, oral phentolamine mesylate 40 mg, Seredyn.

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Re: vinpocetine (cavinton forte)

Postby Flavio » Wed Jan 11, 2023 3:54 pm

There are several supplements that combine vinpocetine and gingko biloba:

https://brainmd.com/blog/one-secret-to- ... t-and-sex/
Age 40. Psychogenic ED for over 20 years. Current regimen: Udenafil 200 mg, oral phentolamine mesylate 40 mg, Seredyn.

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Re: vinpocetine (cavinton forte)

Postby timduncan » Wed Jan 11, 2023 6:09 pm

Thank you for the feedback.
Have a question: don’t you think it’s strange to have supplements otc at “high “ dosage of this substance but if you want the drug version you need the prescription? I suspect the pharmaceutical grade is different.

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Re: vinpocetine (cavinton forte)

Postby timduncan » Wed Jan 11, 2023 6:13 pm

Flavio wrote:Have you tried it?

Is this it?

https://www.amazon.com/Source-Naturals- ... B00A0IM72G


It’s supposed to be the lighter version of the Irrodan retard, a drug which doesn’t exist anymore, but was a powerful cerebral vasodilator that really really helped with our problems

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Re: vinpocetine (cavinton forte)

Postby Flavio » Wed Jan 11, 2023 6:30 pm

timduncan wrote:
Flavio wrote:Have you tried it?

Is this it?

https://www.amazon.com/Source-Naturals- ... B00A0IM72G


It’s supposed to be the lighter version of the Irrodan retard, a drug which doesn’t exist anymore, but was a powerful cerebral vasodilator that really really helped with our problems


Fascinating stuff.

Do you think that only the prescription drug works for ED, or is the natural supplement useful as well?

I can't find any studies on vinpocetine for ED, how do you know it's effective?
Age 40. Psychogenic ED for over 20 years. Current regimen: Udenafil 200 mg, oral phentolamine mesylate 40 mg, Seredyn.

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Re: vinpocetine (cavinton forte)

Postby timduncan » Thu Jan 12, 2023 3:38 am

Because it has the same mechanism of action of irrodan retard (buflomedil) and the stuff worked very well and without the “on demand “ problems
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK67648/

Consider I need full dose of sildenafil for my anxiety

From 3’05’’
https://youtu.be/st-3WX_7dTQ

Since it also inhibits the proliferation of Alzheimer’s you can speculate it alters the normal cycle of dopamine by raising it

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Re: vinpocetine (cavinton forte)

Postby Flavio » Thu Jan 12, 2023 9:45 am

This is fascinating, I am definitely going to give this one a try.

Centrally acting treatments may be extremely useful for psychogenic ED but there are several issues:

a) The right delivery method

Oral treatments may not work because they get destroyed in the digestive system and never reach the brain. Sublingual tablets tend to be more effective.

b) Reactions may vary

Everyone is different and reactions to these treatments vary a lot. I tried apomorphine once with some success but I had to quit because I couldn't combine it with Cialis, side effects were unbearable.

c) Complexity of the brain

The brain is an extremely complex organ and still a great mystery. Dopamine is considered the 'love hormone' but it seems that only some receptors work for arousal.

And not all brain activators are helpful: I've read terrible things about a herb called St. John's Wort, which may actually cause ED.

GABA, serotonin and adrenaline are usually considered BAD, whereas dopamine and oxytocin are considered GOOD. But this is way too simplistic.

Centrally acting drugs for ED are still in its infancy but they are a fascinating topic and the key to solving psychogenic ED.
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Re: vinpocetine (cavinton forte)

Postby timduncan » Thu Jan 12, 2023 10:12 am

Flavio wrote:This is fascinating, I am definitely going to give this one a try.

Centrally acting treatments may be extremely useful for psychogenic ED but there are several issues:

a) The right delivery method

Oral treatments may not work because they get destroyed in the digestive system and never reach the brain. Sublingual tablets tend to be more effective.

b) Reactions may vary

Everyone is different and reactions to these treatments vary a lot. I tried apomorphine once with some success but I had to quit because I couldn't combine it with Cialis, side effects were unbearable.

c) Complexity of the brain

The brain is an extremely complex organ and still a great mystery. Dopamine is considered the 'love hormone' but it seems that only some receptors work for arousal.

And not all brain activators are helpful: I've read terrible things about a herb called St. John's Wort, which may actually cause ED.

GABA, serotonin and adrenaline are usually considered BAD, whereas dopamine and oxytocin are considered GOOD. But this is way too simplistic.

Centrally acting drugs for ED are still in its infancy but they are a fascinating topic and the key to solving psychogenic ED.


thank you for the reply. i'll look into it. please let me know if you can catch the farmaceutical grade


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