What surgeons are willing to trim larger cylinders instead of using RTEs?

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What surgeons are willing to trim larger cylinders instead of using RTEs?

Postby Bwtbbb » Sat Feb 04, 2023 5:05 am

I know Eid does and I think Clavell too, but are there any others?

Has anyone asked another surgeon to do it and been rejected?

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Re: What surgeons are willing to trim larger cylinders instead of using RTEs?

Postby frank66665 » Sat Feb 04, 2023 8:30 am

Bwtbbb wrote:I know Eid does and I think Clavell too, but are there any others?

Has anyone asked another surgeon to do it and been rejected?

do you think not using rte is better than using them?
56, ED since 2010, pills work but not always and well, trt in progress improved but not so much, myocardial infarction january 2016, new stent september 2016, hypertension, venous on 1/23/23 titan one touch 22, no rte dottor Gabriele Antonini Italia

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Re: What surgeons are willing to trim larger cylinders instead of using RTEs?

Postby Bwtbbb » Sat Feb 04, 2023 8:37 am

frank66665 wrote:
Bwtbbb wrote:I know Eid does and I think Clavell too, but are there any others?

Has anyone asked another surgeon to do it and been rejected?

do you think not using rte is better than using them?

It is best to avoid RTEs as they cause wobbly erections and possibly a lower erection angle
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Re: What surgeons are willing to trim larger cylinders instead of using RTEs?

Postby Gt1956 » Sat Feb 04, 2023 3:36 pm

Bwtbbb wrote:I know Eid does and I think Clavell too, but are there any others?
Has anyone asked another surgeon to do it and been rejected?

Just my opinion. I'm pretty sure that Coloplast doesn't approve modifying their product. We won't even talk about if the FDA has a policy on it. Eid does use RTE's. If you measure just a little short of an even size. Eid is willing to take the next size up & trim it a little. Best guesses were about .5cm. That is about 3/16" in America.
I find it interesting how a comment about trimming can grow into "he doesn't use rte's". Simple fact, the only implants that can be aggressively trimmed & never require rte's are called malleables.
RTE's are used by every inflatable implant maker that I've read about. They are an important part of the "fitting" process. RTE problems are rare & usually your cruz will form around them & any wobble present will be solved if you let your body do what it is good at.
68yo, HBP at 40, high triglycerides at 45. Phimosis at 57. Type 2 at 60. Dr. William Brant May 1, 2023 CX 21cm w/no rte's penoscrotal 6" girth @ 6 months

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Re: What surgeons are willing to trim larger cylinders instead of using RTEs?

Postby Bwtbbb » Sat Feb 04, 2023 4:10 pm

Gt1956 wrote:
Bwtbbb wrote:I know Eid does and I think Clavell too, but are there any others?
Has anyone asked another surgeon to do it and been rejected?

Just my opinion. I'm pretty sure that Coloplast doesn't approve modifying their product. We won't even talk about if the FDA has a policy on it. Eid does use RTE's. If you measure just a little short of an even size. Eid is willing to take the next size up & trim it a little. Best guesses were about .5cm. That is about 3/16" in America.
I find it interesting how a comment about trimming can grow into "he doesn't use rte's". Simple fact, the only implants that can be aggressively trimmed & never require rte's are called malleables.
RTE's are used by every inflatable implant maker that I've read about. They are an important part of the "fitting" process. RTE problems are rare & usually your cruz will form around them & any wobble present will be solved if you let your body do what it is good at.

Are you saying that if a patient is 21cm, Eid will use a 20cm with 1cm RTEs instead of a 22cm trimmed down to 21cm? I.e. He can only trim .5cm because 1cm is too much to trim??

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Re: What surgeons are willing to trim larger cylinders instead of using RTEs?

Postby Gt1956 » Sat Feb 04, 2023 4:25 pm

No, you're backwards. A 21/21.5 will get a 22cm. In essence, Eid is willing to make a custom 21.5cm implant. Nobody knows exactly how much can be trimmed. .5cm is about the best guess, maybe a little more.
If you search for Titan implants & look at the glan end you'll see that there is only a very limited amount that can safely removed.
Eids method is easy to figure out if you take the time to research the pics.
Clarification: Eid has been willing to install an implant that was technically just a little too long. The member I'm thinking of had pain for a few months. Eid was close to revising it but the cylinder finally settled in & the pain stopped. Best guess was that his cruz compressed a little to create the needed space.
68yo, HBP at 40, high triglycerides at 45. Phimosis at 57. Type 2 at 60. Dr. William Brant May 1, 2023 CX 21cm w/no rte's penoscrotal 6" girth @ 6 months

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Re: What surgeons are willing to trim larger cylinders instead of using RTEs?

Postby SwissTalk » Sat Feb 04, 2023 4:51 pm

Funny I asked Hakky exactly this question this week and he replied that he would not trim it down as the implants would lose its warranty.

I just wonder why the models are not produced with smaller size differences to avoid RTEs. The sheer cost of materials would probably also allow that if a larger number fits, the smaller model is thrown away.
35, ED due to venous leak caused by finasteride (PFS syndrome)
Implanted June 2023 by Dr. Hakky
Titan 22 cm, no RTE, penoscrotal

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Re: What surgeons are willing to trim larger cylinders instead of using RTEs?

Postby JetsFan1594 » Sat Feb 04, 2023 5:18 pm

Gt1956 wrote:
Bwtbbb wrote:I know Eid does and I think Clavell too, but are there any others?
Has anyone asked another surgeon to do it and been rejected?

Just my opinion. I'm pretty sure that Coloplast doesn't approve modifying their product. We won't even talk about if the FDA has a policy on it. Eid does use RTE's. If you measure just a little short of an even size. Eid is willing to take the next size up & trim it a little. Best guesses were about .5cm. That is about 3/16" in America.
I find it interesting how a comment about trimming can grow into "he doesn't use rte's". Simple fact, the only implants that can be aggressively trimmed & never require rte's are called malleables.
RTE's are used by every inflatable implant maker that I've read about. They are an important part of the "fitting" process. RTE problems are rare & usually your cruz will form around them & any wobble present will be solved if you let your body do what it is good at.


Yeah, Eid gave me a .5cm RTE on my left cylinder during my surgery 3 weeks ago lol
28M, inadequate partial erections as far back as I can remember due to VL. Completely unresponsive to pills, disappointing response to Trimix. Stretch test 19cm. Implanted 1/6/23 24cm Coloplast Titan (Classic Model) by Dr Eid with .5cm RTE on left side

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Re: What surgeons are willing to trim larger cylinders instead of using RTEs?

Postby Gt1956 » Sat Feb 04, 2023 5:19 pm

SwissTalk wrote:Funny I asked Hakky exactly this question this week and he replied that he would not trim it down as the implants would lose its warranty.
I just wonder why the models are not produced with smaller size differences to avoid RTEs. The sheer cost of materials would probably also allow that if a larger number fits, the smaller model is thrown away.

One word, inventory. Why stock so many different lengths?
I bet very few mis measured implants are thrown away. The correct measuring tools are provided, used & predictable results are obtained. If you have ever worked in an industry where precision is required then you'll understand.
68yo, HBP at 40, high triglycerides at 45. Phimosis at 57. Type 2 at 60. Dr. William Brant May 1, 2023 CX 21cm w/no rte's penoscrotal 6" girth @ 6 months

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Re: What surgeons are willing to trim larger cylinders instead of using RTEs?

Postby Bwtbbb » Sat Feb 04, 2023 5:22 pm

Gt1956 wrote:No, you're backwards. A 21/21.5 will get a 22cm. In essence, Eid is willing to make a custom 21.5cm implant. Nobody knows exactly how much can be trimmed. .5cm is about the best guess, maybe a little more.
If you search for Titan implants & look at the glan end you'll see that there is only a very limited amount that can safely removed.
Eids method is easy to figure out if you take the time to research the pics.
Clarification: Eid has been willing to install an implant that was technically just a little too long. The member I'm thinking of had pain for a few months. Eid was close to revising it but the cylinder finally settled in & the pain stopped. Best guess was that his cruz compressed a little to create the needed space.

AFAIK it's the 5cm uninflatable proximal end that is trimmed. Maybe he can trim up to 5cm.


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