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Shadow9494
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Re: cycling issues

Postby Shadow9494 » Mon Feb 13, 2023 6:11 am

RoboCoc wrote:I seem to be having the reverse effect to where originally I could only pump a max of 25 times, but after doing the “P-Tech” cycling I seem to be able to pump beyond 100!?

I’ve been pumping up 25 times then bending (nearly folding in half) my dick then doing the cycling & some stroking.
Then I’ll pump it up another 25 pumps, & repeat without the “folding”, because it’s too rigid.
However, I’m still able to cycle & pump repeatedly after the “P-Tech”, & today was able to pump to 200, & quit there until I hear from others.

It’s COMPLETELY ROCK SOLID, but seems like I can still pump, so I’m curious how many of you guys who have no physical problems pumping the pump can actually pump it?

200 seems like a lot, & it seems I can go beyond that.

P.S. I can get adequate hardness for sex at 15 to 20 pumps, and the 200 pumps is just for trying to get the most out of my implant.

Curious if I should try more than 200 pumps.

Haven’t filled out the profile info yet, but a quick overview…AMS 700 LGX, Surgery was late November.


I seem to be having this same issue and would love to know what's going on. Initially I can squeeze about 5 or 6 times before it stops, but then it's like something frees up and I can pump and pump and pump. Sometimes it hardens up again, but then within seconds I can easily give it at least 30 more pumps (I don't usually do more than that out of boredom), but I can continually do it over and over.

The Dr. said everything's fine, but he's also with Kaiser Permanente, so...? I mean, it's only a 65 reservoir, so I don't get it. Have considered calling AMS about it.

Also, didn't notice this was happening until I was cycling one day and I heard 2 pops in succession while inflating. I also hear "gushy" sounds sometimes (like air and liquid mixed). I also have a bit of what looks like edema at the left base of my shaft.

Additionally, I can press my deflate button, then release, and I'm still able to deflate - is that normal?

Just curious if anyone reading has experienced any of these things? Not trying to hijack the post, but seemed relevant.

Thanks all!

<Admins/mods> - please feel free to move this to another post if necessary. Thank you!
54, AMS 700 LGX 12/14/22 15CM + 1RTE. Type 2 Diabetic. ED over 10 yrs. Had Peyronies (45 degree bend down mid-shaft) from using an extender and having vigorous intercourse - Xiaflex fixed. Possible venous leak.

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Re: cycling issues

Postby newbie443 » Tue Feb 14, 2023 2:58 am

RoboCoc wrote:
crazyjoe wrote:Wow— I have felt worried before that pumping more than 50 times might break the pump, but you represent a living lab test that Coroplast would be proud of!!! Tell me please, what difference in your erection do you notice between, say, 100 to 200 pumps? And at some point doesn’t your pump get too hard to feel like it’s really pumping anything? I mean we all only have so much fluid in our reservoirs, right? So at some point doesn’t the well run dry?
Thanks for your experimentation — maybe we can all learn something from it.



Like I said, it feels like I can pump a lot more than 200, & these pumps are all the way squeezed in & let out to all the way squeezed in.

It says you can’t over pump, but 200 seems like a lot, especially since it fells I can do more.
The pump doesn’t feel close to too hard to pump, but then again I don’t want to push it too far.

I’m curious if any of you have pumped even as close to as much as this, or have talked to an expert about “maximum pump”?

I was 6” before surgery, & after surgery I was 4” which was disappointing.
However after the few short months I’ve gotten to 5” & am hoping to get back to 6”.


My MS pump with my LGX seems to have a pressure valve in it. I can tell the difference between fluid to the cylinders and a bypass pump. The bypass pump prevents over pumping or over pressurizing the cylinders. As no more fluid is moving into the cylinders you are doing no good. So when the bypass starts to happen I just stop instead of going on and on. No use causing more wear on the device. The MS pump is for Momentary Squeeze. If I am at 100% inflated (pumping bypass pumps every 5 minutes or so for 30minutes +) I have to hold the deflate button for about twice as long as if I am not fully inflated. Sometimes I will release the button and the buzzing of deflation stops and I have to press it again. Then if I squeeze the shaft and push more fluid back in the reservoir the pump will buzz again. The valve is suppose to lock into deflate mode when you fully depress the button for long enough. But when the device is new and after longer waits for activation they can get sticky. Mine would not fully switch into deflate mode and fluid would back flow into the cylinders. I found that I could squeeze the shaft a lot to fully deflate then pump the bulb until I felt the pop that switched into inflate mode. That would lock out auto fill. It was more common with Coloplast. You can also then put as many pumps back in if you are having trouble with dog ears causing pain in the shaft.

Good luck.
Injections failed. Implanted 3-21-18 AMS 700 LGX 21 + 1 RTE 100 cc reservoir 6.5" L 5" G Dr. Kramer.

Proximal Perforation Sling Repair 4/13/21 Dr. Broghammer

66 years young.

Will show and tell and talk with others.

RoboCoc
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Re: cycling issues

Postby RoboCoc » Wed Feb 15, 2023 6:08 pm

newbie443 wrote:
RoboCoc wrote:
crazyjoe wrote:Wow— I have felt worried before that pumping more than 50 times might break the pump, but you represent a living lab test that Coroplast would be proud of!!! Tell me please, what difference in your erection do you notice between, say, 100 to 200 pumps? And at some point doesn’t your pump get too hard to feel like it’s really pumping anything? I mean we all only have so much fluid in our reservoirs, right? So at some point doesn’t the well run dry?
Thanks for your experimentation — maybe we can all learn something from it.



Like I said, it feels like I can pump a lot more than 200, & these pumps are all the way squeezed in & let out to all the way squeezed in.

It says you can’t over pump, but 200 seems like a lot, especially since it fells I can do more.
The pump doesn’t feel close to too hard to pump, but then again I don’t want to push it too far.

I’m curious if any of you have pumped even as close to as much as this, or have talked to an expert about “maximum pump”?

I was 6” before surgery, & after surgery I was 4” which was disappointing.
However after the few short months I’ve gotten to 5” & am hoping to get back to 6”.


My MS pump with my LGX seems to have a pressure valve in it. I can tell the difference between fluid to the cylinders and a bypass pump. The bypass pump prevents over pumping or over pressurizing the cylinders. As no more fluid is moving into the cylinders you are doing no good. So when the bypass starts to happen I just stop instead of going on and on. No use causing more wear on the device. The MS pump is for Momentary Squeeze. If I am at 100% inflated (pumping bypass pumps every 5 minutes or so for 30minutes +) I have to hold the deflate button for about twice as long as if I am not fully inflated. Sometimes I will release the button and the buzzing of deflation stops and I have to press it again. Then if I squeeze the shaft and push more fluid back in the reservoir the pump will buzz again. The valve is suppose to lock into deflate mode when you fully depress the button for long enough. But when the device is new and after longer waits for activation they can get sticky. Mine would not fully switch into deflate mode and fluid would back flow into the cylinders. I found that I could squeeze the shaft a lot to fully deflate then pump the bulb until I felt the pop that switched into inflate mode. That would lock out auto fill. It was more common with Coloplast. You can also then put as many pumps back in if you are having trouble with dog ears causing pain in the shaft.

Good luck.



My only thing is, it seems to not be fully hard(hard enough for sex, but not for maximizing length) at 100 pumps, but once I go to 200 it feels very hard.

I used to use a VED for years, & I had a tube that was 3.5” so I was able to pump up to 7.5” length & sometimes 8” girth(which is super girthy)
I’ve noticed that when I first started my cycling that my girth even at the base was like 5.5” but soon went to 6.5”.
Now that I’m able to pump to 200 my base shaft is now 7”girth my mid-shaft is 6.5” & closer to the head is 5.5”.

I’m wondering if I’m able to pump more because my shaft expands naturally so easily from the years of super pumping?

I remember reading that someone couldn’t get passed 5.5” girth even at the base, so since I know mine is well beyond that, maybe it’s able to take more?

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Re: cycling issues

Postby Rebz89 » Wed Feb 15, 2023 6:17 pm

Keep us update. Have you spoke to your doc?

Mine takes around 20 pumps for full inflate but I don't feel any pressure or pain any more but deffo rock solid
33 UK NHS patient
AMS 700 23cm implanted 13th Dec 2022.
Type1 diabetic.
Tried pills and injections before finally getting the implant.
Happy to share pictures and story.

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Re: cycling issues

Postby newbie443 » Wed Feb 15, 2023 8:01 pm

RoboCoc wrote:My only thing is, it seems to not be fully hard(hard enough for sex, but not for maximizing length) at 100 pumps, but once I go to 200 it feels very hard.

I used to use a VED for years, & I had a tube that was 3.5” so I was able to pump up to 7.5” length & sometimes 8” girth(which is super girthy)
I’ve noticed that when I first started my cycling that my girth even at the base was like 5.5” but soon went to 6.5”.
Now that I’m able to pump to 200 my base shaft is now 7”girth my mid-shaft is 6.5” & closer to the head is 5.5”.

I’m wondering if I’m able to pump more because my shaft expands naturally so easily from the years of super pumping?

I remember reading that someone couldn’t get passed 5.5” girth even at the base, so since I know mine is well beyond that, maybe it’s able to take more?


Try doing slower full pumps wall to wall or close to that. If you are doing half or quarter pumps it takes more. When I cycle I will go to hard enough for sex and difficult to pump without micro pumps and wait for a few minutes. Then I can pump a couple of good fluid moving pumps. I could just keep pumping micro pumps, but I just wait for things to stretch a bit. Then repeat for as long as it takes to get the stretching feeling that does not go away. If it starts to hurt, I deflate. But I waited until fully healed to do the pump adding or forced pumps. If you are fully healed usually 3 months post op you can try this on your own. If not you should ask your doctor about doing it first.
Injections failed. Implanted 3-21-18 AMS 700 LGX 21 + 1 RTE 100 cc reservoir 6.5" L 5" G Dr. Kramer.

Proximal Perforation Sling Repair 4/13/21 Dr. Broghammer

66 years young.

Will show and tell and talk with others.

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Re: cycling issues

Postby RoboCoc » Thu Feb 16, 2023 1:30 am

newbie443 wrote:
RoboCoc wrote:My only thing is, it seems to not be fully hard(hard enough for sex, but not for maximizing length) at 100 pumps, but once I go to 200 it feels very hard.

I used to use a VED for years, & I had a tube that was 3.5” so I was able to pump up to 7.5” length & sometimes 8” girth(which is super girthy)
I’ve noticed that when I first started my cycling that my girth even at the base was like 5.5” but soon went to 6.5”.
Now that I’m able to pump to 200 my base shaft is now 7”girth my mid-shaft is 6.5” & closer to the head is 5.5”.

I’m wondering if I’m able to pump more because my shaft expands naturally so easily from the years of super pumping?

I remember reading that someone couldn’t get passed 5.5” girth even at the base, so since I know mine is well beyond that, maybe it’s able to take more?


Try doing slower full pumps wall to wall or close to that. If you are doing half or quarter pumps it takes more. When I cycle I will go to hard enough for sex and difficult to pump without micro pumps and wait for a few minutes. Then I can pump a couple of good fluid moving pumps. I could just keep pumping micro pumps, but I just wait for things to stretch a bit. Then repeat for as long as it takes to get the stretching feeling that does not go away. If it starts to hurt, I deflate. But I waited until fully healed to do the pump adding or forced pumps. If you are fully healed usually 3 months post op you can try this on your own. If not you should ask your doctor about doing it first.


As I stated above it’s ALWAYS “wall to wall” full pumps, I have never tried tiny half pumps.

I’ll pump 25 times, then do the “Perito” then stroke it a bit, then 25 more pumps, and so on and so on until it’s up to 200.
Then I’ll keep it fully hard for up to 6hrs(which is what you’d do if having a full night of fun)

I have noticed my girth increasing & slowly seeing it going beyond 5”(VERY SLOWLY) compared to the girth increase.

I’m only 48, & can curl 200lbs, so I’m sure it’s easier for me to pump the bulb than some of the older guys, but I’m sure there are others like me.

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Re: cycling issues

Postby TurnBackTime » Sat Feb 18, 2023 7:15 pm

I can't say that I am correct or not ... but using strict logic , it seems to me that 200 pumps just HAS to indicate a problem with something in the unit . The cylinders have a certain capacity . There is liquid going into the cylinders. The liquid will really not compress very much (if at all), so basically whatever the volume of the pump bulb is, that is the volume of fluid that should be going into the cylinders with every full pump. So, if we take the volume of fluid that we would have with 200 pumps, it simply HAS to be significantly more volume than the capacity of the cylinders. Doesn't it ? Am I way off base with this conclusion ? What do others think ?
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Re: cycling issues

Postby sswinsfba » Sat Feb 18, 2023 11:43 pm

TurnBackTime wrote:I can't say that I am correct or not ... but using strict logic , it seems to me that 200 pumps just HAS to indicate a problem with something in the unit.


I agree.
Age 73. Started taking 5 mg Cialis daily in 2000. Minor ED started in 2021. Major ED problem started in 2022. Coloplast Titan (20 cm w/1cm RTE) implanted infrapublicly on 01/24/2023 by Dr. Edward Karpman (El Camino Urology Medical Group, Mt. View, CA).

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Re: cycling issues

Postby RoboCoc » Sun Feb 19, 2023 5:42 pm

TurnBackTime wrote:I can't say that I am correct or not ... but using strict logic , it seems to me that 200 pumps just HAS to indicate a problem with something in the unit . The cylinders have a certain capacity . There is liquid going into the cylinders. The liquid will really not compress very much (if at all), so basically whatever the volume of the pump bulb is, that is the volume of fluid that should be going into the cylinders with every full pump. So, if we take the volume of fluid that we would have with 200 pumps, it simply HAS to be significantly more volume than the capacity of the cylinders. Doesn't it ? Am I way off base with this conclusion ? What do others think ?



Ok, so if that’s the case then why when I measure the girth at 100 pumps it’s 6” at mid-shaft, but 6.5” mid-shaft at 200 pumps?

It’s still increasing gains, so it seems to be functional.
What are the chances that it’s pump all the liquid into the cylinders, & now is pumping air which is expanding?

Either way, it gets harder after 200 pumps than it does after 100, & the girth is increasing.
Now at 200 pumps girth is 7” at base of shaft, 6.5” mid-base, & 5.5+” closer to the head.

Just seems if you’re still getting gains, something is working, right?

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Re: cycling issues

Postby Shadow9494 » Mon Feb 20, 2023 12:30 am

Now at 200 pumps girth is 7” at base of shaft, 6.5” mid-base, & 5.5+” closer to the head.


That's odd - your penis sounds like how mine looks since the pump has acted weird. I liken it to a tree - very girthy at the base, then narrowing towards the head. I need to call AMS soon to ask them, just been busy with work and they close at 2pm Pacific time.
54, AMS 700 LGX 12/14/22 15CM + 1RTE. Type 2 Diabetic. ED over 10 yrs. Had Peyronies (45 degree bend down mid-shaft) from using an extender and having vigorous intercourse - Xiaflex fixed. Possible venous leak.


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