Insurance question.

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Bigdave
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Insurance question.

Postby Bigdave » Wed Mar 01, 2023 10:05 pm

Before surgery, I had contacted my medical insurance carrier re: making sure my urology office was in-network, they are.
They also pre-authorized the surgery, and my payment was to be the remainder of my $3000 annual out-of-pocket limit, which I paid in advance of surgery.

Today, I got an invoice from the urology office for over $45,000 in remaining balance. Needless to say I was shocked.
The total bill was over $75,000, including a charge of $50,000+ for "supplies".
The insurance paid only around $27,000. WTF???

It's my understanding that an in-network doctor has agreed upon rates with the insurance co.
Has anyone else had their insurance company underpay their doctor, and try to stick you with a bill of 16x what you were told?

Thanks.
Age 59. AMS 700 LGX 21cm + 2cm RTE.
Peniscrotal, 2/23.
6.25" OEM with Cialis, about 5" post-op. (11/01: Length 6.75" and girth is up to 4.75" mid shaft.) Still growing, albeit slowly. :D
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Floridaspeedo
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Re: Insurance question.

Postby Floridaspeedo » Thu Mar 02, 2023 10:31 am

Never. Confirm the Dr and hospital are in network. It may just be a simple billing mistake.
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KeithC
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Re: Insurance question.

Postby KeithC » Thu Mar 02, 2023 1:50 pm

Hopefully that just an error. When I got mine the hospital showed me a document with a $92k figure on it.

My insurance paid right around $20K for it total.

Gt1956
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Re: Insurance question.

Postby Gt1956 » Thu Mar 02, 2023 2:10 pm

Look carefully for an * or a footnote. Normally either of these 2 items will give you some fine print explaining that the hospital accepted a contract payment as payment in full. They are loath to actually tell you what was paid. They view it as a business secret not to be shared outside of the 2 parties.
I've read stories several times by reporters trying to figure it all out & they always report running into a stonewall of silence.
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Old Guy
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Re: Insurance question.

Postby Old Guy » Thu Mar 02, 2023 3:53 pm

Shocked is the word alright. Holy Crap, even paying out of pocket I see guys saying 20-40K.
Looks like you need to make a few phone calls.
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Agfa13
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Re: Insurance question.

Postby Agfa13 » Thu Mar 02, 2023 5:30 pm

Yeah, sounds like a billing error. Either way, just verify.
I found out the hard way (no pun), that when you go in for minor/major surgery of ANY sort, verify ALL participants (Dr., nurses, Anesthetists, etc...) are ALL in network. Colonoscopy was covered, but Anesthesiologist was NOT In network....$1700 for an hour's work. They have to make their money, but you have to check up on them!
My 2 surgeries for my implant...out of pocket was $12K, total $68K. Following year for the 3rd implant, $6K. I got off lucky with insurance.
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Bigdave
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Re: Insurance question.

Postby Bigdave » Thu Mar 02, 2023 11:14 pm

Thanks for the responses.
I called my insurance company this morning, and after he checked with the doctor's office, he called me back and said that bill was mistakenly sent to me.
The billing is still in progress and everything with the insurance is not settled yet.
He also confirmed that my $3000 out-of-pocket limit is met, and I should not be responsible for any more charges this year.

I'm quite relieved. LOL 8-)
Age 59. AMS 700 LGX 21cm + 2cm RTE.
Peniscrotal, 2/23.
6.25" OEM with Cialis, about 5" post-op. (11/01: Length 6.75" and girth is up to 4.75" mid shaft.) Still growing, albeit slowly. :D
Cycling daily. Hoping to get to 7". ;)

Old Guy
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Re: Insurance question.

Postby Old Guy » Fri Mar 03, 2023 8:40 am

Bigdave wrote:Thanks for the responses.
I called my insurance company this morning, and after he checked with the doctor's office, he called me back and said that bill was mistakenly sent to me.

I'm quite relieved. LOL 8-)


WOW, that's good.
Wonder what they would have done if you went ahead and paid it.
My co-pay was around $3,700, some for the surgery center, some for doc. Couple months later I get an envelope from the surgery center, looked like a bill. Started to panic until I opened it. Guess insurance settled with doc's office and they refunded me almost $600. YAY!
Nov. 8, 2019
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Married 36 years to my beautiful young bride
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sswinsfba
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Re: Insurance question.

Postby sswinsfba » Fri Mar 03, 2023 10:42 am

OP: Glad you got your billing "problem" cleared up. :)

As you've now learned, what is billed for medical "care" can be dramatically different from what is actually paid.
Age 73. Started taking 5 mg Cialis daily in 2000. Minor ED started in 2021. Major ED problem started in 2022. Coloplast Titan (20 cm w/1cm RTE) implanted infrapublicly on 01/24/2023 by Dr. Edward Karpman (El Camino Urology Medical Group, Mt. View, CA).


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