How many pumps till full erection?

[JohnHC]

I'm new having just had mine implanted on April 12th 2023. My implant is a AMS 700 CX 12mm x 21cm with 1.5cm RTE and have a 100ml Conceal reservoir. I know the RTE does not hold fluid but I'm wondering how many pumps does it take to achieve a full rock hard erection? I'm sure that the cylinders reach full capacity before the reservoir is empty, so I keep hearing those with the implant say it takes them 10 pumps or even around 25 pumps, the number of pumps isn't consistent which I know everyone is different, but I'm wondering what the average number would be to achieve a good hard erection. If the pump only pumps 2ml on each squeeze then that would make 50 pumps max before empty, if it's 3ml then 33 pumps would max it out, and like I said I'm sure they don't want you to pump till the reservoir is empty because that's just bad practice, you'd want to leave probably around 15 to 20 percent in the reservoir, and saying 25 pumps to fill the implants to full at 3ml per squeeze would be about right.

[Old Guy]

From what I know there is more fluid in the reservoir than the cylinders will hold. Not by much, but enough.
Pumping up is always going to be different numbers. Squeeze hard every pump, probably fewer pumps than if you only get partial pumps. Even now I find it's always a bit different number.

[Jage64]

I've got the same implant you do, length and RTEs.

When I was first released to cycle at 4 weeks, I could pump over 100 times and never got to the "rock hard" the doctor described. I was concerned. Nothing else to do but keep cycling and hope for the best, so I did.

I was mindful that the fingers stabilizing the pump did not inadvertently depress the deflate button, but that may have been some of my issue. This went on for about 7-10 days, never really getting to the point that the bulb felt like a marble. I thought maybe I had super finger strength and I was forcing the saline through some bypass route. I hunted for a diagram of the actual pump to try to understand the mechanism and what might be happening. Everything I did find did not show anything like a bypass, so I knew I should be getting to the point that I cannot physically pump the bulb, and I wasn't getting there.

Maybe a coincidence, maybe not, but I jumped in my 104 degree hot tub about 5.5 weeks post op and started to pump. To my amazement, I was rock hard at 12 pumps. Harder than I had ever been. I then knew what the doctor meant by "rock hard". Maybe it was the hot water that helped the valve soften up and completely seat, or maybe it was just the day everything decided to work, I don't know. From that moment forward, I hit rock hard at 12-15 pumps. I do the exercises periodically over an hour and maybe get in as much as 5 more incremental pumps over that time. I can feel the stretch and am ready to deflate for some relief after the hour is up. For sex, my wife prefers 8-9 pumps.

[JohnHC]

When you start to cycle the pump, if you squeeze get the pop but only get one pump then the pump is flat and won't refill, do you just hit deflate and try again? If you don't feel it getting larger or inflating do you just hit deflate and try again? I guess what I'm saying is if you try to inflate but it doesn't appear to be working do you just hit the deflate button and try again and just repeat this until it finally starts to work?

[Jage64]

I've done that a couple of times, if it seems like I'm pumping and not getting the inflation I expect with each bulb squeeze, I'll press the deflate button again. Then I'll make sure my fingers aren't near the button and give the bulb the quickest and firmest squeeze I can to get the pop again. That seems to seat the valve again and it acts normally.

It doesn't happen very often, but as I said, I've done that a couple of times and it's worked.

I really like this whole pump system. The button is easy to find, the little vibration while deflating is terrific, and the larger bulb allows more saline to transfer per squeeze.

When I deflate, I turn my right hand so when I grip my penis my extended thumb is across the top of it pointing at my pubis. I squeeze my fingers in sequence from my pinky (which is over my glans) to my index finger moving towards my body. I can feel the vibration in the pump, so I know I'm pushing saline back to the reservoir. Then I push my thumb down against my penis and push my thumb as deeply inside me as I can along the top of the cylinders. Once the vibration stops, I know I've gotten all back to the reservoir I can. The CX lays down nicely in the flaccid state, it's soft with no dog ears or crinkly feelings/noises at all. This pump doesn't auto inflate that I've noticed, its stays soft and hanging nicely in my pants all day long.

I think you'll be VERY happy soon enough, you'll figure out what works best for you.

[Wiggles123]

I have to say that to get maximum (crack an egg on it) hardness I pump around 55 times. I have 6 1/4" girth, so not sure if that is why I need to pump so many squeezes. My wife LOVES it when I have it rock hard, but for oral I usually only pump 30, so it can conform to her throat.

AMS 700 CX - 21cm.

[Tangled]

About 15 squeezes for me to achieve a firm and full erection, and perhaps another 5 to get it to the rigid rock hard state that others speak about. It really is super hard and I can stand the stinging for about an hour.

[ThailandBound]

35-40 with the last 15 or so being micro-pumps. Varies. I have the Titan w/classic pump. I think my bulb is smaller than yours.

[JohnHC]

Ok follow up. Talked to Boston Scientific yesterday. Their response was to try to fully deflate the implant by squeezing the shaft as much as you can then try to inflate. My pump I have to continually hold the deflate button in order to deflate - it doesn't "lock" in deflate mode even after holding in the button 10 plus seconds. I deflated as much as I could possibly deflate then tried to pump it back up, I get the "pop" on the first squeeze and can completely depress the pump, and can then give it another 2 pumps and on the third "pump" it just goes flat and the pump won't reinflate. So I'm thinking the pump is fine since it deflates and will "work" to pump up about 3 or 4 squeezes before it doesn't anymore. So I'm thinking I must have a kink in the line to the reservoir or a issue with the reservoir... Will find out more at the Drs on Monday.

[JohnHC]

Well Monday will be when I find out how messed up it is. I've looked online and it appears that the Conceal reservoir can "fold" and cause a fluid lockout - meaning you get a few pumps then the pump dimples and won't pump anymore, sounds exactly like my issue. They say it happens because the reservoir is already folded, but that it can fold if the pocket it's in collapses which will then create a fluid lockout, it's especially more prone to happen when the reservoir isn't fully filled to capacity, like if the Dr only puts in 65ml to 70ml instead of the full 100ml. Recourse is to add addition fluid to bring it to the full 100ml, or to remove the Conceal reservoir and replace it with the conventional one and fill it to capacity. I'm wondering if maybe I can deflate my implant and then see if I can manipulate that area over where the reservoir is to release the fold and get it to work right.