Aggressive Cycling - Incredible Gains

[Journeyman]

I don't know that answer. When I use to measure in my teens and early 20's I would measure almost 6" but I was doing it wrong my whole life I discovered. When I saw " bpl " on this site , I didn't know what that meant and Googled it . Well it means " Bone pressed length " . Then I Googled " How to measure the length of a penis correctly ." That's when I realized I never knew my true length and I was better than I thought. I always would think I was just average but according to the studies I've been reading lately, I've been a little better than average. I can tell you this with certainty, in my 40's when the pills quit working and I didn't realize there were other options available to me ( the lost decade ) , my penis was embarrassingly small . I didn't know about tri-mix injections or penile implants. I thought I was just fucked and accepted it . It still pisses me off I gave up so easily. When I discovered there were options , I got proactive in a hurry ! Made appointment with a urologist, bought a VED and later the penimaster pro. I was able to reverse a decade of damage. I didn't even know about Franktalk until the day after my surgery. The wife went out for awhile as I sat in the hotel room ,sore as hell with a giant dressing on my crotch doing research on my newly installed coloplast titan is when i came across FT . I'm so thankful to be where I am today. I'm glad I found this treasure trove of information and support on Franktalk. Life is good again . Don't ever give up

[Journeyman]

This is awesome! May I ask how big you were pre implant and traction device?

I would like to add that , even though I didn't do a bpl measurement with a ruler ( pre-op ). I would take a tape measure to the outside of the VED and would almost hit 7" . Of course the penis is vacuumed and stretched . Not an accurate way to measure I know . I couldn't get an erection pre-surgery so it was the best I could do . I was looking for any hopeful gains. When using the penimaster pro , I'd REALLY get that thing stretched. Probably pushing safe limits if I'm being honest . I would start at a shorter length in the morning ( it's spring loaded to keep a constant force stretching your penis ) then screw on extending pieces of rod as the day went on . The tunica would just stretch slowly with time. I'd keep adding until I couldn't. I probably could of hurt myself so I'm not recommending to do it like I did . Research it , take it slow and safe if you try a traction device.

[aussiePeyronies]

Congrats, could you please share your cycling routine.

Very happy for you!

J

[Journeyman]

Sure ...I'm off work right now which has enabled me to do all this ( Surgery, recovery, cycling ) . I cycle in the morning, afternoon and night. Pump until I can't pump anymore ( 2 hand smash ..lol ) . I'll hit it with the VED and just expand it , stop and hold for a few seconds then release and repeat a dozen times or more. Then I'll try some version of the " Perito " exercise. I CANNOT bend it in half like he demonstrates! I'm not convinced that you should even if you could . It hurts ! I do try flexing my penis in all directions though . After all this , I'm able to get more pumps into the cylinders. I just keep doing this relentlessly ( remember, I'm home alone and don't have to go anywhere which definitely helps) . After I'm satisfied that I squeezed every drop of saline I can into the cylinders.... I just leave it rock hard for an hour or so before I deflate. I do this a minimum of 3 times a day . The increases I've seen in such a short time has really motivated me to keep this kind of schedule. I'm hoping I can hit 7.5" L when it's all said and done . With a 22cm implant I'm probably at my max right now and that's ok

[Journeyman]

I brought this up on someone else's topic but I'd like to add it to mine . As men we are all ( or most of us , me included ) concerned about penis size . How do I measure up ? Am I below or above average ( or average) . We're all penis obsessed that's why forums like Franktalk exist . We find comfort in the information provided here . The brotherhood. The feeling of not being alone . No matter what size penis we have , we can all satisfy a womens needs . HOWEVER that doesn't stop us from being sized obsessed which brings up my next observation...... I was helping the wife clean last weekend, trying to build up some pussy points. When I got to the kitchen I noticed the paper towel roll was empty and needed replaced. As I replaced the roll and was carrying the empty cardboard tubing to the recycle bin I thought, " If that was a dick , that'd be a pretty decent girth . I wonder what it measures ? " So I snuck off to the bedroom and measured the cardboard tubing - 5.5 " in circumference. So if you measure at 5.5" girth be proud! That's pretty damn good

[jwitten567]

Thanks Journeyman for the info

dr. patel also recommended VED with my implant to help mitigate some of the length loss i suffered from peyronie's and my prior surgery. He told me to cycle the implant at least twice daily for at least 5 minutes each and other two times apply VED for at least 5 minutes (+ whatever use for sex). I think it has been working some, but excited to see what happens over the next couple of months.

Are you cycling the implant 3 times a day and then directly applying the VED at the same time? I've wondered if that is even better.

[Journeyman]

I'm just kinda freestyling my cycling. Dr. Clavell said 2 times a day is good . I had told him I'm holding my ( 100% ) erection for an hour or more. He didn't seem concerned about a time limit . I think it's whatever you can tolerate. So to my cycling- I pump as much as I can then I alternate between the VED and a half ass " Perito " exercise. Just kinda flexing it in all directions. I cannot bend it in half as Dr. Perito demonstrates . Then I squeeze in more pumps. Then I repeat this process a couple times until I'm convinced there's no more saline going into those cylinders. I keep it rock hard until I either have to pee or can't stand it anymore. Then I deflate. Rest for hours then repeat 2 more times during the day . I came out of the cycling " starting blocks " like a word class sprinter and made incredible gains . I contribute these fast gains to all the pre-op work and determination I had with the VED and penimaster pro. I was stretching and pumping a lot everyday. These are just my observations/ experiences and I would always follow whatever your surgeon says to do . I'm on my 2nd week of cycling and haven't seen any additional gains ( maybe 1/8th inch of length but I'm not 100% on that, sometimes i see it , sometimes i don't ) . My sprint has slowed to a marathon now but I'm just as determined as ever . I'm hoping I'll hit 7.5 " one day as the implant softens up . Good luck to you

[Journeyman]

Thanks Journeyman for the info

dr. patel also recommended VED with my implant to help mitigate some of the length loss i suffered from peyronie's and my prior surgery. He told me to cycle the implant at least twice daily for at least 5 minutes each and other two times apply VED for at least 5 minutes (+ whatever use for sex). I think it has been working some, but excited to see what happens over the next couple of months.

Are you cycling the implant 3 times a day and then directly applying the VED at the same time? I've wondered if that is even better.

Yes .... morning, noon and night

[Journeyman]

So after 2 weeks of cycling I have some thoughts. It appears to me that how much strength you can generate to squeeze the pump really matters . I go through my routine.. pump to 100% , hit it with the ved - stretching and expanding the cylinders, hold then release. I do that a dozen times or more . Then I can tell my penis is somewhat softer , more pliable and I'll flex my penis in all directions ( half ass Perito exercise I call it ) , then pump to 100% again . I'll rest for a couple of minutes and I'm able to pump a little more . By this point I'm using both hands ( 2 thumbs smashing against my 2 index fingers) . I can tell if I forced more saline into the cylinders for 2 reasons . 1) The pressure in the penis / glans , 2) when I release the compressed pump you can feel it draw more saline into it . Again I'll rest and repeat. Once I'm satisfied I'm maxed out I'll keep it rock hard for 30 to 60 minutes. I haven't seen any massive gains in week #2 maybe an 1/8 of length. As far as girth I'm conflicted. I reported last week I was 6.25" in girth ( at the base ) but that is really subjective. If I can insert 6.75" to 7" into her my girth at that base is 7" . Of course I'd be pushing almost ALL the way in to reach that size girth ( I'm hoping to try this experiment tonight ) . Keep cycling, keep gaining

[Journeyman]

Did my morning cycling routine then measured 7.5" ! I measured twice to make sure my sleepy eyes weren't playing a trick. I'm pumped ! Both literally AND figuratively