Can full deflation be acheived without squeezing your penis?

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Re: Can full deflation be acheived without squeezing your penis?

Postby Lost Sheep » Tue Jun 20, 2023 11:40 pm

Bigdave wrote:Never heard of "pressure atrophy ".
Can you explain what that is and what causes it?

As I understand it, what we are talking about here is that if living tissue is compressed, blood flow through the capillaries is reduced. Tissue death can occur.
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Re: Can full deflation be acheived without squeezing your penis?

Postby atul21 » Tue Jun 20, 2023 11:43 pm

I’ve tried for the longest time but without squeezing and then bending it inwards from base (taught to me by Dr. Eid) it is not possible to deflate fully. I was amazed at how much I got be deflated when I did that in Dr. Eid’s presence.
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Re: Can full deflation be acheived without squeezing your penis?

Postby indeed » Wed Jun 21, 2023 3:46 am

Dr. Eid told me that i should always deflate my implant fully if i don't use it, in order to prevent this.
I'd assume that if the tissue is under constant stretch/pressure, the blood flow there is not too well and it can hurt the tissue over time.
A few pumps won't hurt, but leaving it at 50% all the time, i doubt is good.

Bigdave wrote:Never heard of "pressure atrophy ".
Can you explain what that is and what causes it?
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Re: Can full deflation be acheived without squeezing your penis?

Postby Old Guy » Wed Jun 21, 2023 8:19 am

For my Titam One Touch I hold the deflate button as I squeeze my shaft. I wrap a layer of towel over my shaft during deflation, which I find makes it easier and more comfortable. Once deflated a couple squeezes on the pump to lock it.
I do find that after sex natural engorgement keeps me from deflating to the max. After a hot shower loosens things up I can deflate fully.
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Re: Can full deflation be acheived without squeezing your penis?

Postby Hillywilly » Wed Jun 21, 2023 8:46 am

indeed wrote:Dr. Eid told me that i should always deflate my implant fully if i don't use it, in order to prevent this.
I'd assume that if the tissue is under constant stretch/pressure, the blood flow there is not too well and it can hurt the tissue over time.
A few pumps won't hurt, but leaving it at 50% all the time, i doubt is good.

Bigdave wrote:Never heard of "pressure atrophy ".
Can you explain what that is and what causes it?


Yes, unfortunately from my talk with Hakky I think atrophy is unavoidable. If we consider that the corpra was heavily damaged beforehand then from our previous disease states and the surgery itself I would think there is no way the corpra is expanding and contracting the way it was when it was healthy and getting the same degree of exercise and oxygenated blood.

Thankfully I think this process takes years Hakky told me my dick wouldn't be an ovaloid until i'm 60.
33 HG deformity now Titan OTR 24cm XL + 1 cm RTE's Length 7.25in/ Girth 6in (midshaft) Dr. Hakky 4/4/23

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Re: Can full deflation be acheived without squeezing your penis?

Postby aussiePeyronies » Wed Jun 21, 2023 9:45 pm

Hillywilly wrote:
indeed wrote:Dr. Eid told me that i should always deflate my implant fully if i don't use it, in order to prevent this.
I'd assume that if the tissue is under constant stretch/pressure, the blood flow there is not too well and it can hurt the tissue over time.
A few pumps won't hurt, but leaving it at 50% all the time, i doubt is good.

Bigdave wrote:Never heard of "pressure atrophy ".
Can you explain what that is and what causes it?


Yes, unfortunately from my talk with Hakky I think atrophy is unavoidable. If we consider that the corpra was heavily damaged beforehand then from our previous disease states and the surgery itself I would think there is no way the corpra is expanding and contracting the way it was when it was healthy and getting the same degree of exercise and oxygenated blood.

Thankfully I think this process takes years Hakky told me my dick wouldn't be an ovaloid until i'm 60.


This is interesting, especially for us younger guys. So, are you saying that, it is inevitable we will eventually have fibrosis? And, do you think vice gripping to deflate can cause more damage to the penis?

Thanks,
J
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Re: Can full deflation be acheived without squeezing your penis?

Postby Hillywilly » Wed Jun 21, 2023 10:25 pm

aussiePeyronies wrote:
Hillywilly wrote:
indeed wrote:Dr. Eid told me that i should always deflate my implant fully if i don't use it, in order to prevent this.
I'd assume that if the tissue is under constant stretch/pressure, the blood flow there is not too well and it can hurt the tissue over time.
A few pumps won't hurt, but leaving it at 50% all the time, i doubt is good.



Yes, unfortunately from my talk with Hakky I think atrophy is unavoidable. If we consider that the corpra was heavily damaged beforehand then from our previous disease states and the surgery itself I would think there is no way the corpra is expanding and contracting the way it was when it was healthy and getting the same degree of exercise and oxygenated blood.

Thankfully I think this process takes years Hakky told me my dick wouldn't be an ovaloid until i'm 60.


This is interesting, especially for us younger guys. So, are you saying that, it is inevitable we will eventually have fibrosis? And, do you think vice gripping to deflate can cause more damage to the penis?

Thanks,
J


Not that fibrosis is inevitable but atrophy yes. So if you are round with arousal now with the passage of time you will get more oval. I got the impression this is over a long time period.

My GUESS is that the speed of the atrophy is dependent on how often you use your dick and exercise the spongnisium and surrounding tissue but that’s just my guess.
33 HG deformity now Titan OTR 24cm XL + 1 cm RTE's Length 7.25in/ Girth 6in (midshaft) Dr. Hakky 4/4/23

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Re: Can full deflation be acheived without squeezing your penis?

Postby aussiePeyronies » Wed Jun 21, 2023 10:42 pm

Hillywilly wrote:
aussiePeyronies wrote:
Hillywilly wrote:
Yes, unfortunately from my talk with Hakky I think atrophy is unavoidable. If we consider that the corpra was heavily damaged beforehand then from our previous disease states and the surgery itself I would think there is no way the corpra is expanding and contracting the way it was when it was healthy and getting the same degree of exercise and oxygenated blood.

Thankfully I think this process takes years Hakky told me my dick wouldn't be an ovaloid until i'm 60.


This is interesting, especially for us younger guys. So, are you saying that, it is inevitable we will eventually have fibrosis? And, do you think vice gripping to deflate can cause more damage to the penis?

Thanks,
J


Not that fibrosis is inevitable but atrophy yes. So if you are round with arousal now with the passage of time you will get more oval. I got the impression this is over a long time period.

My GUESS is that the speed of the atrophy is dependent on how often you use your dick and exercise the spongnisium and surrounding tissue but that’s just my guess.


Interesting, I know with age, the penis and ED becomes smaller from atrophy. I always thought, us having implants would save us from this. I guess not. It is just inevitable.

Perhaps regular VED (for tissue health) and Cialis daily may help.
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Re: Can full deflation be acheived without squeezing your penis?

Postby Hillywilly » Wed Jun 21, 2023 11:17 pm

aussiePeyronies wrote:
Hillywilly wrote:
aussiePeyronies wrote:
This is interesting, especially for us younger guys. So, are you saying that, it is inevitable we will eventually have fibrosis? And, do you think vice gripping to deflate can cause more damage to the penis?

Thanks,
J


Not that fibrosis is inevitable but atrophy yes. So if you are round with arousal now with the passage of time you will get more oval. I got the impression this is over a long time period.

My GUESS is that the speed of the atrophy is dependent on how often you use your dick and exercise the spongnisium and surrounding tissue but that’s just my guess.


Interesting, I know with age, the penis and ED becomes smaller from atrophy. I always thought, us having implants would save us from this. I guess not. It is just inevitable.

Perhaps regular VED (for tissue health) and Cialis daily may help.


I agree bro I’ve been taking 20mg cialis EOD just to keep everything fine tuned I also masterbate or fuck every day to try to work out the tissue. Decided to axe VED for time being as the juries out on if it shortens HA filler life time.

Even if you atrophy completely i you can get filler and in the future I wouldn’t be suprised if stem cells or smooth muscle cell grafts become a thing. My whole outlook on this thing has shifted to live life however I like and deal with issues as they arise.
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Re: Can full deflation be acheived without squeezing your penis?

Postby atul21 » Thu Jun 22, 2023 12:55 am

Hillywilly wrote:
aussiePeyronies wrote:
Hillywilly wrote:
Not that fibrosis is inevitable but atrophy yes. So if you are round with arousal now with the passage of time you will get more oval. I got the impression this is over a long time period.

My GUESS is that the speed of the atrophy is dependent on how often you use your dick and exercise the spongnisium and surrounding tissue but that’s just my guess.


Interesting, I know with age, the penis and ED becomes smaller from atrophy. I always thought, us having implants would save us from this. I guess not. It is just inevitable.

Perhaps regular VED (for tissue health) and Cialis daily may help.


I agree bro I’ve been taking 20mg cialis EOD just to keep everything fine tuned I also masterbate or fuck every day to try to work out the tissue. Decided to axe VED for time being as the juries out on if it shortens HA filler life time.

Even if you atrophy completely i you can get filler and in the future I wouldn’t be suprised if stem cells or smooth muscle cell grafts become a thing. My whole outlook on this thing has shifted to live life however I like and deal with issues as they arise.


That is a very heavy dose of Cialis if taken everyday. Have you discussed this with your doctor? I spoke to mine about it and he recommended 5mg daily and 20mg on a day when I anticipate having sex.
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Coloplast Titan 22 cms one touch pump no rte; implanted by Dr. Billy Cordon in Miami on 02-March-2023. Found Dr. Cordon on reco from Dr. Eid after he fell sick.
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