Do growers lose more size than showers?

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jwitten567
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Re: Do growers lose more size than showers?

Postby jwitten567 » Mon Jul 10, 2023 3:34 pm

choosing your surgeon is the most important thing - surgeons that do a lot of these cases have seen it all and know how to balance getting you the best size without putting you at risk of major complications (erosion or cylinder popping out of the corpora). I wouldn't say you need to travel far (Across country) to finding someone, as nowadays there are high volume surgeon [s] in pretty much every major city.

Somone doing less than 5-10 implants a year should be a major red flag. Not sure if there is a big difference between someone doing 100 vs 300/year. I think it just comes down to whether your personality and expectations jive.
Radical Prostatectomy in 2015; failed pills, straight to Coloplast Titan in 2019 by Dr. Valenzuela in NYC, Replaced with AMS 700 CX in 2022 by Dr. Darshan Patel in San Diego, CA. Wish I jumped to an implant even before prostate cancer!

easymoney
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Re: Do growers lose more size than showers?

Postby easymoney » Mon Jul 10, 2023 8:57 pm

The more implants a dr. does a year I would think would better your chances of getting good results ... I would by no means go to a dr. who just did implants a few times a year .. My dr. does the most malleable implants in the country .. I'm not happy with my size outcome so far but he has to work with what he has to work with ..

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Re: Do growers lose more size than showers?

Postby Rider1400 » Tue Jul 11, 2023 4:53 pm

Any Dr who relies on a stretch to predict size is not a GOOD implanter. I would run away from him as fast as I could go. Watch some videos from Perito or Eid. They inject fluid into you cavernoso and push as much as they can stretching the tissues as far as they will stretch. Very soon after they cut in and run a dialator inside and then measure from the inside. I saw one where perito grabs the glans and pulls while measuring from the inside, I’m sure to be sure he was into the glans properly. Go with a good higher volume implanted and if you have any extenuating issues you should go with one of the best. Size should be no different if you’re a grower or a shower. I was definitely a grower.3-1/2 inches on a warm day and 7” fully erect. I will say that after implant you will definitely be a proud shower. And I love this about my new dick
59 years old ED started mid 40s pills failed after 10 years. Injections works but diminishing results with pain. Implanted 5-22 Baylor,Scott,and White Dallas.Dr Michael Wierschem, infrapubic Coloplast 20cm and 1cm RTE. Going strong and loving it!

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Re: Do growers lose more size than showers?

Postby OregonStrong » Wed Jul 12, 2023 6:37 pm

My unscientific theory on growers losing length, not from the surgery per se, but in a different sense. I think if you go years with ED, not getting erections regularly, you will lose length due to atrophy and settle down into your smaller flaccid size. Implanting after that may not fully get you back to where you were when you were younger and able to have normal, full erections. Showers probably have less of that issue. Of course using a VED regularly for months prior to implant may help restore some of that former youthful size so the outcomes may be similar to those that are showers and haven't lost length.
50 yrs old. E.D. issues started around age 35, combo venous leak/testicular failure. Bilateral testicular implants for severely atrophic testes. Implanted 6/11/20 Dr. Kramer LGX 21cm + 1.

RayChez
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Re: Do growers lose more size than showers?

Postby RayChez » Thu Jul 13, 2023 12:44 am

I have had three implants and everyone was a little different then the other. The first was an Ultrex and I lost an inch to seven inches. Fifteen years later I had my first revision which did not last much, the pump was not working properly, so like nine months later I had surgery or a third revision, now with the AMS 700 LGX. The surgeon told me he had pulled the new cylinders further into the glan approximately half inch and added several rte's at the base since it went dip. This doctor he knew exactly what he was doing because I had eight inches right away and now I have had the LGX for around three years and my penis has increased in length and girth to where it is 8.5 x 5.7 inches, but I do exercise it every day in a semi erection and give it the stretch type exercise like milking. I am very pleased with the results of the whole operation. I also made it clear I wanted the pump way down low on the scrotum and it is crossways which makes it easy to pump and easy to get to the button for release. I never deflate completely I always leave like four pumps in it, firm believe that keeps the valve from sticking and getting stuck for failure if it does not move. :D
age: 75 First implant around 2001, 59 at the time. AMS 700 Ultrex
revision Dec 2016. 2ND implant 21CM, 1rte AMS 700 LGX MS pump

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Re: Do growers lose more size than showers?

Postby Frenchie » Fri Jul 14, 2023 11:16 am

2435tjklAS wrote:My opinion that doctor selection isn't too much of an issue, especially not for size. It is true that a high volume implant surgeon will generally do a better job and the chances of problems are minimized, but when it comes to size, it's really not that difficult.

Can you currently stretch your own dick to 5.5"? If no, start using a VED now. If yes, start using a VED now. Research explains this allows surgeons to easily install larger implants in these patients that best meet their real, natural erection compared to men not treated by vacuum therapy.

There is no way to stretch my flaccid penis to 5.5. Even in a good ,not cold day it doesnt even reach 3 inches. I thought they had a better way to measure size,no wonder why so many men lose size.
Venous like since I was 20 years old. Pills don't work too well. Thinking of implant in the future

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Re: Do growers lose more size than showers?

Postby Gt1956 » Fri Jul 14, 2023 1:10 pm

Frenchie wrote:
2435tjklAS wrote:My opinion that doctor selection isn't too much of an issue, especially not for size. It is true that a high volume implant surgeon will generally do a better job and the chances of problems are minimized, but when it comes to size, it's really not that difficult.
Can you currently stretch your own dick to 5.5"? If no, start using a VED now. If yes, start using a VED now. Research explains this allows surgeons to easily install larger implants in these patients that best meet their real, natural erection compared to men not treated by vacuum therapy.

There is no way to stretch my flaccid penis to 5.5. Even in a good ,not cold day it doesnt even reach 3 inches. I thought they had a better way to measure size,no wonder why so many men lose size.

Don't worry. When you're unconscious all of your body relaxes. The dr will get the max measurement that your body will take. Hot, cold, shower or grower. It does not matter.
68yo, HBP at 40, high triglycerides at 45. Phimosis at 57. Type 2 at 60. Dr. William Brant May 1, 2023 CX 21cm w/no rte's penoscrotal 6" girth @ 6 months

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Re: Do growers lose more size than showers?

Postby Totitoti » Fri Jul 14, 2023 5:18 pm

Gt1956 wrote:
Frenchie wrote:
2435tjklAS wrote:My opinion that doctor selection isn't too much of an issue, especially not for size. It is true that a high volume implant surgeon will generally do a better job and the chances of problems are minimized, but when it comes to size, it's really not that difficult.
Can you currently stretch your own dick to 5.5"? If no, start using a VED now. If yes, start using a VED now. Research explains this allows surgeons to easily install larger implants in these patients that best meet their real, natural erection compared to men not treated by vacuum therapy.

There is no way to stretch my flaccid penis to 5.5. Even in a good ,not cold day it doesnt even reach 3 inches. I thought they had a better way to measure size,no wonder why so many men lose size.

Don't worry. When you're unconscious all of your body relaxes. The dr will get the max measurement that your body will take. Hot, cold, shower or grower. It does not matter.



Totally true when relax it will stretch to your length don't worry I was actually 6.5 and now am 7 inches I did loose girth because I had a beer can dick and the titan does not grow in girth to what I had but hey it works lol I am happy
ED Since early 40's used injections for 1 year, at 55 got implanted by Perito April 19/2023, Titan 24 + 2 rte's
Before. 6.75 lenght 6.5 girth
After 7. Length 5.25 girth

chad2304
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Re: Do growers lose more size than showers?

Postby chad2304 » Mon Aug 07, 2023 2:33 pm

I was 5.5 and now am 3.5 so what went wrong? I never had ED only prostate cancer surgery. Used the VED after surgery for 2.5 months and then had the implant and lost 2 inches. the doctor said it is because I am a grower and my flaccid length was 3.5 . He can not give me my erection length. I was told to go to a new doctor and I went to 3 doctors. They all say if it pumps up and deflates correctly they will not redo it and risk an infection just because I lost 2 inches. I don't know what else to do.
Implanted April 2017 Coloplast titan mini 14cm 1cmRTE
Before implant 3.5 flaccid 5.5 erect. After implant 3 flaccid 3.5 inflated. Worst mistake of my life. Wish I had never done it!

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Re: Do growers lose more size than showers?

Postby Lost Sheep » Mon Aug 07, 2023 5:17 pm

chad2304 wrote:I was 5.5 and now am 3.5 so what went wrong? I never had ED only prostate cancer surgery. Used the VED after surgery for 2.5 months and then had the implant and lost 2 inches. the doctor said it is because I am a grower and my flaccid length was 3.5 . He can not give me my erection length. I was told to go to a new doctor and I went to 3 doctors. They all say if it pumps up and deflates correctly they will not redo it and risk an infection just because I lost 2 inches. I don't know what else to do.

Without more information, we cannot tell what might have gone wrong.

Was your 5.5" measured as an erection immediately before implant or is that from years ago? Does the implant go into your glans properly? What model/manufacturer of implant do you have? How much experience does the surgeon who did the implant have? Did you lose the two inches due to your surgery?
Lost Sheep
AMS LGX 18+3 Nov 6, 2017
Prostate Cancer 2023
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