New implant technology?

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Discovernew
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Re: New implant technology?

Postby Discovernew » Wed Jul 26, 2023 7:06 pm

bldoink wrote:I think where it's currently at is:
Pump is not placed in the sack.
There may be an option for your doctor to limit it's use remotely. (pay your bill)
The battery is the limiting factor with an expected life of 10 years.
When the battery goes you get a total revision.

That's what I gathered from the 2 interviews I did.


I doubt a battery lasting 10 years, at least with current battery technology.
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Re: New implant technology?

Postby Hillywilly » Wed Jul 26, 2023 7:28 pm

Discovernew wrote:
bldoink wrote:I think where it's currently at is:
Pump is not placed in the sack.
There may be an option for your doctor to limit it's use remotely. (pay your bill)
The battery is the limiting factor with an expected life of 10 years.
When the battery goes you get a total revision.

That's what I gathered from the 2 interviews I did.


I doubt a battery lasting 10 years, at least with current battery technology.


One feasible suggestion to address the battery life limitation is to incorporate a rechargeable lithium-ion battery combined with energy harvesting technology.

By utilizing a rechargeable lithium-ion battery, we can significantly extend the lifespan of the implant, potentially up to 10 years or more. Additionally, integrating energy harvesting technology allows the implant to harness and store energy from natural body movements or heat, reducing the frequency of recharging.

Regarding the concern about controlling the implant's usage, we can implement a secure remote power management system through Bluetooth connectivity. This would enable your doctor to make necessary adjustments remotely, ensuring safe and appropriate use of the device.

Any new design would undergo rigorous testing and obtain regulatory approval to ensure safety and efficacy.

Technology is improving at exponential pace and I think we will see multiple improvements as time passes.
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Discovernew
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Re: New implant technology?

Postby Discovernew » Wed Jul 26, 2023 7:33 pm

Hillywilly wrote:
Discovernew wrote:
bldoink wrote:I think where it's currently at is:
Pump is not placed in the sack.
There may be an option for your doctor to limit it's use remotely. (pay your bill)
The battery is the limiting factor with an expected life of 10 years.
When the battery goes you get a total revision.

That's what I gathered from the 2 interviews I did.


I doubt a battery lasting 10 years, at least with current battery technology.


One feasible suggestion to address the battery life limitation is to incorporate a rechargeable lithium-ion battery combined with energy harvesting technology.

By utilizing a rechargeable lithium-ion battery, we can significantly extend the lifespan of the implant, potentially up to 10 years or more. Additionally, integrating energy harvesting technology allows the implant to harness and store energy from natural body movements or heat, reducing the frequency of recharging.

Regarding the concern about controlling the implant's usage, we can implement a secure remote power management system through Bluetooth connectivity. This would enable your doctor to make necessary adjustments remotely, ensuring safe and appropriate use of the device.

Any new design would undergo rigorous testing and obtain regulatory approval to ensure safety and efficacy.

Technology is improving at exponential pace and I think we will see multiple improvements as time passes.


I don't think lithium ion batteries are so good as you mention here. My phone's and battery usually starts to degrade after 2 years of constant use, to often 80% of their original capacity (by that time, i buy a new phone anyway). So i doubt getting 10 years out of a battery with regular recharges is feasible. Unless you use the implant not that often. But who knows, maybe there is a way.

I just wouldn't want to be the first one to try it.
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Re: New implant technology?

Postby newbie443 » Wed Jul 26, 2023 10:23 pm

Discovernew wrote:
newbie443 wrote:You all need to understand one thing in that this is not new technology. Batteries and in body recharging have been going on for a long time. The first pacemakers used this technology until battery development progressed and it was no longer needed. And not with just pacemakers. There are other stim constant use implants for pain and other issues that that have had years of use. Both with recharging and again now that battery technology has improved no need for this. These devices (pacemakers, stim, ect...) have been around for many many years. So blue tooth has been used as well not only for these implants but for testing devices that are worn for some time period for diagnostic purposes.

And there seems to be a bit of downplaying to the advantages of this. One is you can have really early activation that has been shown to reduce size loss from surgery. And there would be nothing in your scrotum and no hematomas or other complications with scrotal swelling ect. An easier recovery for men also. The information in the survey's was that the pump / battery would be the size of a deck of playing cards and implanted under the skin somewhere in the abdomen. This would be very much like the stim devices that are also placed under the skin in the back or side for pain control and other issues that in the past were recharged by placing a tray charger over the device to charge it. The controller can be a watch, attached to a necklace around the neck or as stated accessed by an ap in your phone. I had a heart test done and a pain test done both with a phone I kept with me to record and adjust (in the case of pain stim) the device. A manual switch has also been in mix for this so a controller would not be needed for an erection. The device can also be locked out to keep men from inflating early if the need to wait is an issue. This is really game changing technology. The ability to have custom cycling protocols with accurate percentage and inflation times would come into play. The speed of inflation could also change and be increased or decreased.

I have read that with other technology that it moves so fast that by the time it is implemented and manufactured, that it is out of date. Not being the first group for this would then be with older technology. So as time goes on the devices would improve and as with the other devices they will get smaller. I think that infection risk for the cylinders and size loss from that would also decrease as the pump would not be in the scrotum. If the pump/battery did develop an infection it would be away from the cylinders and not effect them or need for them to be removed.

It is fun to put all the stuff out that the system could be hacked and other devices messing with this but that is just not the case as has been proven with the use of other devices listed that are in use.

Would it be worth waiting a few years for improvement to be made? Maybe so. No way to tell though if or when the improvements would be done as that would be controlled by the manufacturer.

The technology is not new but it is the first time it is being used with a penile implant. I would think the chances are very high that manual pump in the scrotums days are numbered.


Man, i personally don't wear any necklaces and i don't use smartwatches, precisely because i hate to have yet one more device in my life that i need to recharge and carry a charger with me. My laptop and phone running out of battery is enough. I would hate to miss out on sex because i forgot to charge my penis.

That being said, i see there are potential advantages to this approach but for sure i would not be within the first batch if people testing it.


I put down a lot of info it is understandable you missed the part I highlighted above. As far as waiting as I said this technology is not new and is used in other devices and up to you if you want to wait for improvements or not. The first group that receives this are cadavers. Waiting would I think do away with recharging. Or maybe just have a pad in your bed or a blanket that charges in your sleep. But in 3-5 years when this hits the market recharging may not even be needed. The Stim devices are the most recent and started out with recharging and are now non recharging like the pacemakers. Just way too early to know for sure and start saying how bad it is without even knowing all the details. It is on the way. And I think it is probable that in the not so far future it will be the only choice.
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