Eid vs. Clavell?

[dnm123]

I am 3 month post op from Dr Clavell. I agree you can't really go wrong with either but I don't know Eid so?? I am happy, had very little pain, lost zero length/girth. But... I can feel tubing between my nuts, I can feel it when I jerk it. a chick would notice 4 sure. I could have the tubing fixed, Clavell said I could but recommended if it's not bugging me to leave it alone due to risk of infection. It doesn't bother me so I will just live with it.

Can you feel it when it's inflated? Only in your scrotum or also inside the shaft?

[ThailandBound]

Clavellian here. 7 months postop. Could not be happier.

One advantage, in my opinion based on my experience and after reading many posts here of Clavell is pain management. Like Jage64, i only required 1 pain pill the entire recovery. Rest of the time simple Tylenol.

I don’t have any tubing issues. Everything well concealed with perfect pump placement.

Bottom line, i’m writing this as my girlfriend lies sleeping next to me in bed. We had a vigorous afternoon session and then after dinner tonight we laid in bed, relaxed, with ny cock in her ass, for about an hour. Gently stroking and caressing her, having a warm conversation. Didn’t cum because i’d done that earlier.

But man, the intimacy of that hour, never worrying 1 minute about losing my erection, was bliss.

[Witheringhog]

I am 3 month post op from Dr Clavell. I agree you can't really go wrong with either but I don't know Eid so?? I am happy, had very little pain, lost zero length/girth. But... I can feel tubing between my nuts, I can feel it when I jerk it. a chick would notice 4 sure. I could have the tubing fixed, Clavell said I could but recommended if it's not bugging me to leave it alone due to risk of infection. It doesn't bother me so I will just live with it.

Can you feel it when it's inflated? Only in your scrotum or also inside the shaft?

I can only feel it in my scrotum, if you press down on the glands when they are not engorged you can feel it as well. Super hard erection, don't feel it in the shaft at all.

Agree with Thailandbound, the implant is amazing, I am 100% satisfied with my result.... but, for me, a new chick would notice it because of the piece of tubing that is a little too long. No biggie to me, others I am sure would get that fixed.

[newbie443]

I would give a lot of weight to someone who is close to you. Even the best doctors in the world have revision rates they are just lower than the others. Eid by far to me was the better doctor. He activates very early and that has been shown to relate to less size loss from surgery. Clavell is a 6 week wait for activation. Eid will trim the hard tips of the cylinders to make a perfect fit and avoid RTE's as much as possible. But Eid is pretty old and had some time off with health issues this year.

The thing is that several well-known doctors told me this surgery can be done by any surgeon. What you get by going to the really good doctors are lower chances of infection and reoperations from other issues. But they can still happen. Many of the best also have cosmetic surgery in their services or even business name. That is because there is also a cosmetic element to this. Many low volume doctors are not concerned about cosmetics, and many do not do revisions.

Like I said I always say to try to find a really good doctor close to you first. To me the local care is worth a lot. But if you do not have a very good doctor close to you and you must travel for this then again, I would place travel time into this. Lots of other really great doctors out there from all over the US.

Insurance has been a problem to others on this board in the past. Chances are much better if you work for a government agency. Call your insurance or go on line for a copy of your policy and look for an exclusion for penile implants.

Hey newbie,
I do not agree with the doctors who state this surgery can be done by any surgeon. Maybe they mean that any (good) surgeon can give a working penis, but imo, the details make it a very difficult one. Locating 3 pieces on an implant, while insuring that every part of the implant is at the correct place and properly sizing the patient. Tubing lengths, scar tissue, crus depth, differences in cylinders length, if asymmetrical, etc, and a lot more of factors can make the implant successful or sometimes (Oustanding).
Using no touch techniques to avoid getting infections, how to make it less painful, specially post-op, and recovery time.
I think that is why there are a few implanters that we can consider as top-surgeons, while there are others who are still very good.

Well the facts are that a great number of implants are done by low volume doctors that do not use the no touch method. True higher volume doctors have lower reoperation rates. This study shows this. https://www.garber-online.com/pdf/Highe ... ctions.pdf And if you go to the bottom of page 226 (don't worry the first page is 223) on the left Figure 1. ACV distribution. You will see the lowest volume doctors with just a few a year case load do more implants than any other group. So not only can any urology surgeon do this operation it seems the lowest volume are doing more than the higher volume doctors. What you are referring to is what I put in my post about cosmetic surgery. I highlighted this and I did also say to look for a very good local doctor but if none was available as was the case for me then look to travel. But from my experience long travel after an operation is not fun. And you risk blood clots after surgery and that increases with setting in a cramped airplane for hours. Local is always better if you have a very good doctor. If not and you can do it you can weigh the disadvantages to travel to the local doctors you have. Many men are not able to travel and must use a local doctor. That study shows a high approval rate even with the all the implants being done by low volume doctors. And even Eid has men with infection. I have seen in the past where he had a page on his web site that listed each case where the man developed infection. It may or may not still be somewhere in the many pages of his web site. The risk is always going to be there no matter who you go to. You are just lowering that risk a little bit by going to a higher volume doctor. Low volume doctors have men with great results and high-volume doctors have men with bad results. Like with knee surgery. Lots of doctors doing them but there are some very good one that the pro athletes go to. And lots and lots of folks using the new knee.

[Franklin22]

Clavell is only like 39. Something for you to think about with him handling your future revisions. EID maybe has 5 years at the most.
Clavell is also cheaper by atleast 10k
Houston is much easier city to get around in not riding a subway.

Dr. E is considered like the godfather to IPPs no one can say anything bad about him. Certainly advantages with him in being able to cycle early and know he’s probably known as the best.
. I went with Clavell because he is extremely talented and smart with much less red tape, easy to make appt, proximity, enjoyed his YouTube videos, and just really like the guy as he’s really cool. Someone you’d like to grab a beer with.
They also were extremely professional and did a great job with me. I’m really happy how it all looks aesthetically too. Haven’t second guessed it for a second.

[FinallyBionic]

Well the facts are that a great number of implants are done by low volume doctors that do not use the no touch method. True higher volume doctors have lower reoperation rates. This study shows this. https://www.garber-online.com/pdf/Highe ... ctions.pdf And if you go to the bottom of page 226 (don't worry the first page is 223) on the left Figure 1. ACV distribution. You will see the lowest volume doctors with just a few a year case load do more implants than any other group. So not only can any urology surgeon do this operation it seems the lowest volume are doing more than the higher volume doctors. What you are referring to is what I put in my post about cosmetic surgery. I highlighted this and I did also say to look for a very good local doctor but if none was available as was the case for me then look to travel. But from my experience long travel after an operation is not fun. And you risk blood clots after surgery and that increases with setting in a cramped airplane for hours. Local is always better if you have a very good doctor. If not and you can do it you can weigh the disadvantages to travel to the local doctors you have. Many men are not able to travel and must use a local doctor. That study shows a high approval rate even with the all the implants being done by low volume doctors. And even Eid has men with infection. I have seen in the past where he had a page on his web site that listed each case where the man developed infection. It may or may not still be somewhere in the many pages of his web site. The risk is always going to be there no matter who you go to. You are just lowering that risk a little bit by going to a higher volume doctor. Low volume doctors have men with great results and high-volume doctors have men with bad results. Like with knee surgery. Lots of doctors doing them but there are some very good one that the pro athletes go to. And lots and lots of folks using the new knee.[/quote]
Thanks, Newbie for your detailed information.
You are right about the pros and cons of going locally or fly to top-class surgeon. I also used a doctor who is not considered as a top surgeon in the field. My decision was based on a word of mouth and insurance limitations. I got a good result, which I am happy with.

[crazyjoe]

"And even Eid has men with infection. I have seen in the past where he had a page on his web site that listed each case where the man developed infection. It may or may not still be somewhere in the many pages of his web site. The risk is always going to be there no matter who you go to. You are just lowering that risk a little bit by going to a higher volume doctor. Low volume doctors have men with great results and high-volume doctors have men with bad results. Like with knee surgery. Lots of doctors doing them but there are some very good one that the pro athletes go to. And lots and lots of folks using the new knee."

Hang on, please -- check me if I'm wrong but Eid's infection rate is under 0.5 % -- reputedly the lowest of all high volume implant docs.