Inflatable implants are a bad bargain

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Re: Inflatable implants are a bad bargain

Postby Mark1974 » Sat Aug 05, 2023 7:55 am

I would start with the inflatable and if you come across problems that require revisions then consider the malleable

That's my plan. I want to have at least two inflatables before I get a malleable if I can. There have been several posters in that same position (although several of them went back for inflatable after months with malleable)
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Re: Inflatable implants are a bad bargain

Postby bldoink » Sat Aug 05, 2023 7:57 am

In one of his posts he volunteered that he's on the "spectrum". He's just working through the decision process in his own way. Be patient.
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Re: Inflatable implants are a bad bargain

Postby Mark1974 » Sat Aug 05, 2023 8:00 am

bldoink wrote:In one of his posts he volunteered that he's on the "spectrum". He's just working through the decision process in his own way. Be patient.

He sounds pretty high functioning. I work with kids with autism and Down's syndrome every day, but the kids I work with are severe
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Re: Inflatable implants are a bad bargain

Postby frank66665 » Sat Aug 05, 2023 8:30 am

newbie443 wrote:Well the thing is size loss. The OP does make a bit of reference to girth but states nothing about length. There are studies and tons of threads about how an IPP with cycling will restore size loss over time. And the studies show men with reoperations will receive a larger (longer) device. There is no way to cycle a malleable nor does it expand over time as it has been shown the IPP does. Now if you have had complaints about being too big from sexual partners maybe a malleable is something to consider. And if it is a money issue and that is all you can afford then something is better than nothing. The 3-piece IPP is the gold standard in implants at this time. Above the 2 piece and the malleable. It may not be perfect, and it is not a natural erection, but it is the best available.

most of the studies are fake and addicted, especially if they run billions of dollars that are good for everyone, manufacturers and implantologists, in fact they have developed a way that everyone earns, and an implantologist will never tell the true duration of an implant , because from the failure and he himself who earns more, my implantologist offers to let one of his patients talk to anyone who wants to get an implant, he will never let me talk to a patient of his who intends to get an implant. system, guess why? So what data are you talking about here?
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Re: Inflatable implants are a bad bargain

Postby Rufian » Sat Aug 05, 2023 10:14 am

Yes, I'm on the spectrum officially diagnosed, I'm very high functioning, probably above average intelligence, I play instruments, speak a few languages, I have employment, etc, that doesn't mean I don't have struggles.

All my life I have struggled with anxiety, mild depression, confidence, self-esteem, but I'm very mentally strong and resilient, a person can only resist so much.

I go to therapy for mental health, it helps, but is not going to fix the psychological issues that ED can cause in any man, let alone, an autistic man who already had social struggles since birth

With insurance, the most I would have to pay may be around $7000 which I could pay cash or finance.

I'm interested in Dr Clavell expertise, so I may get the inflatable, and see how I do, but if something ever goes wrong, since I live near in Miami, I would probably just get the malleable with Perito or travel again.

Before I do anything, I need to get a penile ultrasound, I suspect I may have some venous leakage as I always lose erection even when masturbating alone and I'm TRT therapy, I thought it would help, all it did is maybe improve morning woods

I also have a very mild heart condition called mitral valve prolapse is a small defect in the mitral valve, mine is trace, as in very mild but is there, there are papers that conclude this condition can cause ED
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/a ... 4919309476

is possible I'm affected by it.

I also have an slightly enlarged prostate BPH which i read can also cause ED, there is a connection studies show

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Re: Inflatable implants are a bad bargain

Postby Gt1956 » Sat Aug 05, 2023 4:20 pm

I'm not sure using India in a comparison of ED healthcare is valid. I think they're trying to provide care to around a billion people. The costs associated with mens ED is just too large to fit into their system.
I can understand their concerns, cost & revisions seem to be the biggest. Most of the western world has methods to control the costs so that reduces the cost/revisions worry. Many countries have either health insurance or some kind of goverment plan that covers many men. Not all men.
It seems the bigger worry in the west is finding a doctor. True there is a lot of very competent ED doctors but with more drs comes more patients wanting their services. The demand goes up as the supply increases.
For the size of the area of India. Just getting a malleable is a sizeable task. Just getting an erection at a reasonable cash price is the goal.
We really should put the malleable vs inflatable debate into a better perspective.
They're a decent option for men in a struggling healthcare nation.
Not that great of an option in many other nations.
I think if we can frame the discussion around that idea then both sides will be better off on how they treat their ED based upon where they get their healthcare.
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Re: Inflatable implants are a bad bargain

Postby Lost Sheep » Sun Aug 06, 2023 4:27 am

frank66665 wrote:most of the studies are fake and addicted, (edited for focus)

Frank66665, please,

Would you specify a few of the fake studies so we can check them out ourselves?

Would you explain what you mean by "addicted"?

Thanks in advance.
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Re: Inflatable implants are a bad bargain

Postby Anfornee » Sun Aug 06, 2023 6:48 am

I’ve had both a genesis malleable and a Titan inflatable. Both work. I prefer the inflatable.

The malleable was intrusive. Hard to conceal in clothes, especially at the gym in sweatpants. My grandkids sitting on my lap was an issue.

Sex was decent in missionary but doggie and cowgirl were not as satisfying. The rigidity is decent but not on par with the inflatable.

The nice thing was no pumping. You’re always ready to go.

There was a definite size penalty. Over an inch in length. Girth took a pretty good hit too.

The Titan is superior for me in every way. The girls I regularly play with all know about it and are completely ok with a guaranteed non stop erection. The couple of random girls I’ve been with never said anything. I didn’t tell them and they didn’t seem to notice.

Size wise, I’m 2 months post op and I’m within .5 inches of my previous length and girth. With my semi-aggressive but consistent cycling I am sure I’ll be back where I was.

The IPP is better for me in every way.
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Re: Inflatable implants are a bad bargain

Postby newbie443 » Sun Aug 06, 2023 9:42 am

frank66665 wrote:
newbie443 wrote:Well the thing is size loss. The OP does make a bit of reference to girth but states nothing about length. There are studies and tons of threads about how an IPP with cycling will restore size loss over time. And the studies show men with reoperations will receive a larger (longer) device. There is no way to cycle a malleable nor does it expand over time as it has been shown the IPP does. Now if you have had complaints about being too big from sexual partners maybe a malleable is something to consider. And if it is a money issue and that is all you can afford then something is better than nothing. The 3-piece IPP is the gold standard in implants at this time. Above the 2 piece and the malleable. It may not be perfect, and it is not a natural erection, but it is the best available.

most of the studies are fake and addicted, especially if they run billions of dollars that are good for everyone, manufacturers and implantologists, in fact they have developed a way that everyone earns, and an implantologist will never tell the true duration of an implant , because from the failure and he himself who earns more, my implantologist offers to let one of his patients talk to anyone who wants to get an implant, he will never let me talk to a patient of his who intends to get an implant. system, guess why? So what data are you talking about here?


I am sorry for whatever trouble you are having. No need for me to spend time posting links to threads and studies if you have already made up your mind they are all fake. The information is on this board and has been posted for anyone to research and a read. I wish you good luck working through your troubles.
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Re: Inflatable implants are a bad bargain

Postby Witheringhog » Sun Aug 06, 2023 9:58 am

I do appreciate a good conspiracy, i dont think this board fits that. I am a dude who works in IT that had a limp dick, i stick around this board in hopes the things i went through could be of use to someone else.

I do not appreciate the tone of the OP, i think it’s trolling, this will be the last time i view this thread.
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