New to the forum, searching for ED answerrs.

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Old Guy
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Re: New to the forum, searching for ED answerrs.

Postby Old Guy » Sun Aug 13, 2023 3:54 pm

Welcome to FT. I have to give my 2¢ worth here Farmboy.
About my mid-50's ED started. I used Viagra until it didn't work. I used Trimix until it didn't work. With both the worst thing was "scheduling" sex. After each failed it was like going through ED again. I didn't know anything about implants, but once I found out about them that's where I headed. I was not ready to be in a sexless marriage. I didn't want surgery. It would be the first in my adult life. My recovery was tough, but for my wife's happiness I'd do it again.
I've asked my wife several times what if I never got implanted, would she be happy sexless. I always get a quick No answer.
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Lost Sheep
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Re: New to the forum, searching for ED answerrs.

Postby Lost Sheep » Sun Aug 13, 2023 4:01 pm

farmboy wrote:Hi All, new to the forum, age 71, married 43 years.

My ED started in my mid-fifties. I started with 10mg Cialis, which worked well for a while, but after a few years, I increased it to 20mg. In
I miss both the physical and emotional intimacy. I think she does too, or she wouldn't keep leaving the door open to experiments. We love each other.

If you read this far, I thank you, and welcome any comments. I will also note that for now, at least, I am not interested in injections or an implant.

(edited for brevity)

Farmboy, welcome to the forum.

Your experience is similar to mine and progression through the remedies also, though you are just starting out.

Talking frankly with your wife is essential, in my opinion, and it is good that you can. I encourage you to do more of it and even have her go with you to sessions with whatever caregivers you see. It is wonderful to have one's partner completely on board with issues (and solutions). Your wife is clearly eager to make your marriage (and sex within it) work. Happy for you. Support goes both ways in things like sex, especially. Her support for you gets reflected back on her by generating your support for her and the cycle reinforces itself.

You mentioned oral sex until you finish yourself off. I assume you mean that you perform cunnilingus to let her have orgasm(s). Does she enjoy fellatio or participate in your orgasm? Of course, it is not fitting to press her on it, but if she does not seem to object, you might consider ways of being inviting of her "taking a mouthful". As I said before, it is good that you can talk frankly about sex, desires and ways of fulfilling each other.

My own journey through the world of vacuum erection devices (VED) was short. My lover and I had penetration twice. Once, she almost climaxed. But having my penis be purple sort of put her off and the constriction ring was quite uncomfortable. Still, it did give me a usably stiff dick. So, I used my VED exclusively for therapy, to keep good blood flushing through my penile tissues and to keep those tissues stretched and elastic.

Ulitmately, I skipped urethral suppositories and penile injections altogether and went directly to an implant. I had so little sexual function that I reasoned that if the implant completely failed, I would not regret what little function I had lost. You must make your own decision about which path to follow.

Good luck and God bless you and your wife.
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Re: New to the forum, searching for ED answerrs.

Postby farmboy » Mon Aug 14, 2023 7:20 am

Lost Sheep wrote:
farmboy wrote:Hi All, new to the forum, age 71, married 43 years.

You mentioned oral sex until you finish yourself off. I assume you mean that you perform cunnilingus to let her have orgasm(s). Does she enjoy fellatio or participate in your orgasm? Of course, it is not fitting to press her on it, but if she does not seem to object, you might consider ways of being inviting of her "taking a mouthful". As I said before, it is good that you can talk frankly about sex, desires and ways of fulfilling each other.



Thanks for your thoughtful response, Lost Sheep. Yes, that's the idea, but she doesn't always climax, and would prefer an erect penis. I think that even after 40+ years, it might help if she were to instruct me on how to make her climax orally reliably. We did have a session about a year ago where both climaxed, her through cunnilingus, me through fellatio, but not ejaculating into her mouth. That time was mutually satisfying, and I would be perfectly ok if we could replicate that. So yes, she does perform fellatio, and does participate in bringing me to climax. The "mouthful" is off the table, as that was tried within the past year, and it made her sick. Obviously, doing anything that makes her uncomfortable is highly counterproductive. The odd thing, is that there was a time years ago when she would take the occasional mouthful and seemed to be ok with it. But that's was then, this is now. Yes, at least we can still talk.
Age 71, married 43 years, on meds for bp, gerd, bph and cholesterol. Good health, moderately overweight. Mourning the loss of physical and emotional intimacy.

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Re: New to the forum, searching for ED answerrs.

Postby Lost Sheep » Mon Aug 14, 2023 2:39 pm

farmboy wrote:(edited for focus)
The "mouthful" is off the table, as that was tried within the past year, and it made her sick. Obviously, doing anything that makes her uncomfortable is highly counterproductive. The odd thing, is that there was a time years ago when she would take the occasional mouthful and seemed to be ok with it. But that's was then, this is now. Yes, at least we can still talk.

Good to talk. I did some research a while ago to find what can make a man's semen taste better. Alcohol and smoking are not helpful. Pineapple juice makes a man tastier. Just google "semen taste better" or any phrases like that.
Lost Sheep
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Prostate Cancer 2023
READ OLD THREADS-ask better questions -better understand answers
Be part of your medical team
Document pre-op size-photos and written records
Pre-op VED therapy helps. Post-op is another matter

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Re: New to the forum, searching for ED answerrs.

Postby Pumpkinman » Tue Aug 15, 2023 9:26 am

Old Guy wrote:Welcome to FT. I have to give my 2¢ worth here Farmboy.
About my mid-50's ED started. I used Viagra until it didn't work. I used Trimix until it didn't work. With both the worst thing was "scheduling" sex. After each failed it was like going through ED again. I didn't know anything about implants, but once I found out about them that's where I headed. I was not ready to be in a sexless marriage. I didn't want surgery. It would be the first in my adult life. My recovery was tough, but for my wife's happiness I'd do it again.
I've asked my wife several times what if I never got implanted, would she be happy sexless. I always get a quick No answer.

I think you mentioned before but how long did the Trimix stop working and the Viagra stop working ? It usually doesn't just stop working most people just get tired of doing the injections. I've found that with Viagra the trick is to take breaks or alternate between PDE5 medications.

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Re: New to the forum, searching for ED answerrs.

Postby Old Guy » Tue Aug 15, 2023 3:11 pm

Pumpkinman wrote: I think you mentioned before but how long did the Trimix stop working and the Viagra stop working ? It usually doesn't just stop working most people just get tired of doing the injections. I've found that with Viagra the trick is to take breaks or alternate between PDE5 medications.


Viagra at 50 mg worked for about 2 years. Bumped the dose up to 100 mg for maybe a year when the results started being unreliable and side effects were migraines. Did not know about Trimix or implants at the time. Took a break from Viagra for about a year. Saw an ad for Men's ED Clinic, made an appointment and got Trimix. Injections worked well for maybe 2 years but I had to keep increasing the dose. Into the third year I was at 60-80 units to get any kind of erection, which made my penis ache all the next day. Changed to Quadmix and first dose of 10 units gave me a good erection. Next time 10 did nothing. Next time 20 worked, time after it didn't. When I got back to needing 60 units again I quit. Found out about implants then. Took a year to save for it. Tried generic Viagra once more which did nothing but make me sweat.
Neither just stopped working, it was a gradual loss of effectiveness. One thing I hated about either was having to schedule sex.
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Re: New to the forum, searching for ED answerrs.

Postby edjohn » Sun Aug 20, 2023 9:57 am

Just want to interject that with a repurposed insulin pen and 29g needles, the PGE1 or mix goes in with almost zero sensation and I doubt there's much risk of scar tissue buildup at that size. I've yet to get bleeding or see any bruising with this gauge. I do squeeze for a few seconds to help it close quickly, but nothing adverse so far.

Also, I find that I still don't have to "schedule" sex because it takes only 10-20 minutes for Alprostadil to assist and I can easily wait until foreplay is indicating it's the right time and just "go to the bathroom real quick". It's easy-peasy TBH. I also notice slight benefit through the next morning at least, and the sides are lower than with pills.
soft glans since ever / some ED from youth now fairly serious ED after much use of constriction/clamping to achieve 100% fullness / sorting out TRT and delaying implant plans until all mental, chemical, and physiological possibilities are exhausted

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Re: New to the forum, searching for ED answerrs.

Postby TwoStep » Mon Aug 21, 2023 3:04 am

edjohn wrote:Just want to interject that with a repurposed insulin pen and 29g needles, the PGE1 or mix goes in with almost zero sensation and I doubt there's much risk of scar tissue buildup at that size. I've yet to get bleeding or see any bruising with this gauge. I do squeeze for a few seconds to help it close quickly, but nothing adverse so far.

Also, I find that I still don't have to "schedule" sex because it takes only 10-20 minutes for Alprostadil to assist and I can easily wait until foreplay is indicating it's the right time and just "go to the bathroom real quick". It's easy-peasy TBH. I also notice slight benefit through the next morning at least, and the sides are lower than with pills.


This is good, I don’t think the convenience factor is a big deal either.
What do you mean by a repurposed insulin pen? Are you using Edex, Caverject, or a vial from a compounding pharmacy?

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Re: New to the forum, searching for ED answerrs.

Postby scharff » Mon Aug 28, 2023 9:47 am

I sympathize with a lot of these issues. For me, the pills worked less and less as I neared my 60's. Oral sex could get me hard but it wouldn't last long after she stopped. Add a few too many drinks, stress and a long day and it all added up. It was easier if I took a pill in the morning and went right to having just a little foreplay before sex. She wasn't interested in that. For a while she would just give oral as quickly as I could take it and not let up even if I asked her to so that I could finish. Everything changed after a great discussion with my urologist who told me that I was far from alone. I do inject now and I recognzie that it's not for everyone but once I stick it, I know that I'll be ready for whatever she's ready for and more and that alone is worth it.

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Re: New to the forum, searching for ED answerrs.

Postby edjohn » Tue Sep 05, 2023 7:46 pm

TwoStep wrote:This is good, I don’t think the convenience factor is a big deal either.
What do you mean by a repurposed insulin pen? Are you using Edex, Caverject, or a vial from a compounding pharmacy?


I think they are knockoff Eli Lilly Pens. I was using this method for peptides and hCG for a while already. Find the lilly style insulin pens and empty 3mL cartridges on AliExpress. Sterilize the cartridges if you're nervous about that, re-constitute your mix (I am using rxBuyersClub) and fill the cartridge. Insulin pens dispense .01mL (1iu) per click, so the full cartridge would be 300 units, but I only make 1-2mL at a time for the fridge so I can keep the rest of the 10mL vial in the freezer.
soft glans since ever / some ED from youth now fairly serious ED after much use of constriction/clamping to achieve 100% fullness / sorting out TRT and delaying implant plans until all mental, chemical, and physiological possibilities are exhausted


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