Good vs. Bad pain during cycling?

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Luther
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Good vs. Bad pain during cycling?

Postby Luther » Fri Oct 20, 2023 9:24 am

How do you differentiate (inevitable) "normal", "acceptable" pain during and after cycling from pain that is no longer acceptable and could possibly lead to injury and infection? When do you take rest or adjust your cycling routine, and when not?

I am about two weeks post surgery and have not really started cycling yet. When I inflate the cylinders to (near) maximum, I feel an unpleasant, pressing/burning feeling in the glans. After deflation, this unpleasant feeling may continue. As long as I feel this, I don't inflate the cylinders, which at the moment means I don't inflate the cylinders every day.

Preventing injury and infection is a priority at this point over maintaining or regaining size. So I'm very wary of doing too much, but I also don't want to be overly cautious. Hence the question above this thread.
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Re: Good vs. Bad pain during cycling?

Postby newbie443 » Fri Oct 20, 2023 12:12 pm

Luther wrote:How do you differentiate (inevitable) "normal", "acceptable" pain during and after cycling from pain that is no longer acceptable and could possibly lead to injury and infection? When do you take rest or adjust your cycling routine, and when not?

I am about two weeks post surgery and have not really started cycling yet. When I inflate the cylinders to (near) maximum, I feel an unpleasant, pressing/burning feeling in the glans. After deflation, this unpleasant feeling may continue. As long as I feel this, I don't inflate the cylinders, which at the moment means I don't inflate the cylinders every day.

Preventing injury and infection is a priority at this point over maintaining or regaining size. So I'm very wary of doing too much, but I also don't want to be overly cautious. Hence the question above this thread.


Do your best to follow your doctors instructions. Your doctor should have advised you on cycling. So do as much as you can of what your doctors says to do.
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Re: Good vs. Bad pain during cycling?

Postby Old Guy » Fri Oct 20, 2023 2:39 pm

At 2 weeks post I don't think you should be doing anything unless your surgeon has cleared you. Basically, I'd keep my hands off anywhere near the incision as that can be a way for an infection to start. Human hands are full of bacteria.
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Re: Good vs. Bad pain during cycling?

Postby Luther » Fri Oct 20, 2023 3:32 pm

newbie443 wrote: Do your best to follow your doctors instructions. Your doctor should have advised you on cycling. So do as much as you can of what your doctors says to do.


Let me phrase it differently: what were your doctor's instructions regarding good vs. bad pain during and after cycling?
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Re: Good vs. Bad pain during cycling?

Postby Luther » Fri Oct 20, 2023 3:40 pm

Old Guy wrote:At 2 weeks post I don't think you should be doing anything unless your surgeon has cleared you. Basically, I'd keep my hands off anywhere near the incision as that can be a way for an infection to start. Human hands are full of bacteria.


Thanks for the advice, but with all respect, that was not an answer to my question. Dr. Eid instructs his patients to start cycling on day 3, while oher surgeons recommend to start cycling at 6 weeks. What is best? Interesting question, but not the topic of this thread.

Suppose my surgeon has cleared me to cycle, what would then be a rule to follow during cycling to prevent doing too much but also to prevent doing too little?
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Re: Good vs. Bad pain during cycling?

Postby Hillywilly » Fri Oct 20, 2023 3:48 pm

Luther wrote:
Old Guy wrote:At 2 weeks post I don't think you should be doing anything unless your surgeon has cleared you. Basically, I'd keep my hands off anywhere near the incision as that can be a way for an infection to start. Human hands are full of bacteria.


Thanks for the advice, but with all respect, that was not an answer to my question. Dr. Eid instructs his patients to start cycling on day 3, while oher surgeons recommend to start cycling at 6 weeks. What is best? Interesting question, but not the topic of this thread.

Suppose my surgeon has cleared me to cycle, what would then be a rule to follow during cycling to prevent doing too much but also to prevent doing too little?


Pain is to be expected when cycling early after the procedure there is no "good pain" like the soreness you get after a workout it's just regular pain as the implant stretches the capsule of scar tissue forming around the the implant.

The pain should decrease with time as your body heals. What should NOT happen is the pain should not get worse as time goes on as that would indicate something is wrong.
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Re: Good vs. Bad pain during cycling?

Postby ThailandBound » Fri Oct 20, 2023 6:06 pm

Think of cycling as nothing more than rehab. Rehab, such as i experienced with a compound fracture of my elbow years ago, really sucks. My therapist would bend my arm WAY past comfortable. I squirmed and cussed every session. Got almost full range of motion back.

When i began cycling i took this mentality into it. I’d pump up to the point i was breathing hard. About 90%. For initially :30 minutes. At that point i’d do the Perito exercises and then pump up to 100% and set a timer for :5 minutes. Rapping my knuckles on the table and watching the clock. I increased these times over time as i adapted to new “set points”. I would have nightmares of the implant bursting through my glans.

Today, at 10 1/2 months, i can fully pump up to 100%. It’s really hard with no loss of original length and can have sex, vigorously, for a full hour. My personal cutoff even cycling was to differentiate between very uncomfortable and acute stabbing pain. It was a fine line.

That’s just me. One of many guys on the forum. Best to do what your doctor says.
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Re: Good vs. Bad pain during cycling?

Postby Witheringhog » Fri Oct 20, 2023 6:14 pm

Luther wrote:How do you differentiate (inevitable) "normal", "acceptable" pain during and after cycling from pain that is no longer acceptable and could possibly lead to injury and infection? When do you take rest or adjust your cycling routine, and when not?

I am about two weeks post surgery and have not really started cycling yet. When I inflate the cylinders to (near) maximum, I feel an unpleasant, pressing/burning feeling in the glans. After deflation, this unpleasant feeling may continue. As long as I feel this, I don't inflate the cylinders, which at the moment means I don't inflate the cylinders every day.

Preventing injury and infection is a priority at this point over maintaining or regaining size. So I'm very wary of doing too much, but I also don't want to be overly cautious. Hence the question above this thread.


I cycled for as much as i could stand, i wasn’t using pain pills when cycling. Started out at around 15 min, i am now up to 1 hr 2x a day. I still feel a nice stretch after 45min but not the pain i got in the beginning.
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Re: Good vs. Bad pain during cycling?

Postby newbie443 » Fri Oct 20, 2023 11:21 pm

Luther wrote:
newbie443 wrote: Do your best to follow your doctors instructions. Your doctor should have advised you on cycling. So do as much as you can of what your doctors says to do.


Let me phrase it differently: what were your doctor's instructions regarding good vs. bad pain during and after cycling?


The point is that doctors and men are different. If you had Dr. Eid do the surgery you would need to follow his instructions for you. If you had another doctor do the surgery for you then you need to follow your doctors instructions for you. You need to understand that if you use another doctors instructions for someone else you are taking a risk of problems. Doctors use different methods for this surgery and as different as doctors are men are different also. The time to be concerned about activation wait time (how long before you start cycling) is in your surgeon selection. Once you decide to use a doctor and trust that doctor for this surgery you need to follow that doctors instructions. If you want to start cycling early then you need to clear this with your doctor. My cycling instructions were in my AMS DVD that was in my packet. My doctor activated at 3 weeks and said I could activate a few days early. I was able to follow the cycling protocol with just a lot of discomfort. I could feel stretching like when you stretch a muscle before exercise. I did not activate earlier than my doctors instructions and I followed the protocol he gave me to use. You should do the same and you should ask your doctor these questions. your doctor cut you open and knows what was done and any problems that had to be worked on. For this reason doctors will have men that activate earlier and men that activate later. Anything that you read on this site from some other man with the same or different doctor may not be best for you.
Injections failed. Implanted 3-21-18 AMS 700 LGX 21 + 1 RTE 100 cc reservoir 6.5" L 5" G Dr. Kramer.

Proximal Perforation Sling Repair 4/13/21 Dr. Broghammer

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