FDA link to see improvements of implants

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wolfpacker
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FDA link to see improvements of implants

Postby wolfpacker » Sat Dec 16, 2023 7:44 am

Since the various penile implants are medical devices that go inside the body, the manufacturers have to notify/request permission from the FDA before any manufacturing changes or improvements are made.

Here is a link where you can search and view those submissions over time: https://www.accessdata.fda.gov/scripts/ ... ma/pma.cfm

In the "device" field, enter either AMS 700 or Titan and click Search

One recent interesting submission from AMS in November 14th: "Approval to commercialize a next generation pump design, the TENACIO Pump, for use in the AMS 700 Inflatable Penile Prosthesis (IPP)."

Looks like this is AMS's page about the new TENACIO pump https://www.bostonscientific.com/en-US/ ... nacio.html
Early 30s with ED for years from penis enlargement stretching and jelqing. Implant by Dr Eid on 24 June 2021 with a Titan 24cm with +1cm RTE on one side and -1cm cut off on the other side

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Re: FDA link to see improvements of implants

Postby PCHelp76180 » Sat Dec 16, 2023 8:49 am

I just spoke to my Urologist this week about the Tech, when are they going to make the pumps wireless ? IMO they could put a tiny brushless motor inside the pump and use wireless device to activate it. Similar to wireless phone charging.
ED since my late 30's. Implanted 7/7/15 Titan Coloplast 18cm +4 cm extenders. Revision Jan 2017

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Re: FDA link to see improvements of implants

Postby FinallyBionic » Sat Dec 16, 2023 8:53 am

Interesting to see. Thanks for sharing, WP!
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1969. RP Oct. 2017. Pills and Trimix didn't work. Inguinal hernia repair on both sides. AMS CX 21 cm+1 RTE, by Dr. Kai Li at Kaiser, VA, Jan. 2021. FT member since July 2020 as AST2123. See my previous 457 posts.

Gt1956
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Re: FDA link to see improvements of implants

Postby Gt1956 » Sat Dec 16, 2023 10:19 am

Interesting to read the AMS link. The improvements, in my own experience, don't seem to be problems with my own pump. I wonder if pehaps there is a pattern of inconsistency in how well the pumps work in all implantees?

I will say that the point about the pump refill rate being faster might be helpful. After each squeeze, it seems like my pump works a little better if I give it a few seconds pause to allow the pump to refill before the next squeeze. Guys that are trying to inflate fast might end up using more pumps because their bulb isn't full for each squeeze.

Lets be generous & say they could reduce the time required for each squeeze by 2 seconds. So an average total inflation time for "15 pumps to max" would be reduced by half a minute. I guess that in the heat of the moment, 30 seconds could be seen as an eternity.

I don't see the time being saved as a big break through but it does fit in with my opinion that future improvements are going to be in small increments.

Wolfpacker, thanks for posting the link.
68yo, HBP at 40, high triglycerides at 45. Phimosis at 57. Type 2 at 60. Dr. William Brant May 1, 2023 CX 21cm w/no rte's penoscrotal 6" girth @ 6 months

Copilot77
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Re: FDA link to see improvements of implants

Postby Copilot77 » Sat Dec 16, 2023 11:01 am

wolfpacker wrote:Since the various penile implants are medical devices that go inside the body, the manufacturers have to notify/request permission from the FDA before any manufacturing changes or improvements are made.

Here is a link where you can search and view those submissions over time: https://www.accessdata.fda.gov/scripts/ ... ma/pma.cfm

In the "device" field, enter either AMS 700 or Titan and click Search

One recent interesting submission from AMS in November 14th: "Approval to commercialize a next generation pump design, the TENACIO Pump, for use in the AMS 700 Inflatable Penile Prosthesis (IPP)."

Looks like this is AMS's page about the new TENACIO pump https://www.bostonscientific.com/en-US/ ... nacio.html


Hey bro I read your post about having ED since your early 20s I'm in the same spot to. I'm 21 and have Ed and constant pain that has been caused by unhealthy masturbation habits and a sports injury. My insurance covers Edward Karpman so in the grand scheme of things I may get an implant.

Do you think it's a good idea?

Only thing I would be worried about is the amount of revisions I would need.

I also was gonna ask you do you have any tips for managing a relationship with ED?

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Re: FDA link to see improvements of implants

Postby Copilot77 » Sat Dec 16, 2023 11:02 am

Gt1956 wrote:Interesting to read the AMS link. The improvements, in my own experience, don't seem to be problems with my own pump. I wonder if pehaps there is a pattern of inconsistency in how well the pumps work in all implantees?

I will say that the point about the pump refill rate being faster might be helpful. After each squeeze, it seems like my pump works a little better if I give it a few seconds pause to allow the pump to refill before the next squeeze. Guys that are trying to inflate fast might end up using more pumps because their bulb isn't full for each squeeze.

Lets be generous & say they could reduce the time required for each squeeze by 2 seconds. So an average total inflation time for "15 pumps to max" would be reduced by half a minute. I guess that in the heat of the moment, 30 seconds could be seen as an eternity.

I don't see the time being saved as a big break through but it does fit in with my opinion that future improvements are going to be in small increments.

Wolfpacker, thanks for posting the link.


How's your experience been with the implant boss?

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Re: FDA link to see improvements of implants

Postby Gt1956 » Sat Dec 16, 2023 12:12 pm

Copilot77 wrote:
Gt1956 wrote:Interesting to read the AMS link. The improvements, in my own experience, don't seem to be problems with my own pump. I wonder if pehaps there is a pattern of inconsistency in how well the pumps work in all implantees?
I will say that the point about the pump refill rate being faster might be helpful. After each squeeze, it seems like my pump works a little better if I give it a few seconds pause to allow the pump to refill before the next squeeze. Guys that are trying to inflate fast might end up using more pumps because their bulb isn't full for each squeeze.
Lets be generous & say they could reduce the time required for each squeeze by 2 seconds. So an average total inflation time for "15 pumps to max" would be reduced by half a minute. I guess that in the heat of the moment, 30 seconds could be seen as an eternity.
I don't see the time being saved as a big break through but it does fit in with my opinion that future improvements are going to be in small increments.
Wolfpacker, thanks for posting the link.

How's your experience been with the implant boss?

I'm a prolific poster. My history is filled with my experiences. I try to honestly & reasonably report what happens to ME. Btw, don't ask me about penis size. I made a commitment to myself when I got my implant to not post sizes. The penis size during recovery changes slowly & can take up to 18 months to reach your final size. I've seen internet sleuths post about old sizes & then a discussion has to happen about that was then, this is now. Waste of time in my opinion. Having said that, I have confirmed that I've reached a 6" girth now. I wasn't surprised because was slightly over 6" before. I only posted that milestone because there is a common belief that AMS implants seldom go over the 5.5 to 5.8 girth range. A member was wanting an AMS & FT research was telling him that he could't get his 6" girth back. I'm not the only 6" girth AMS owner on FT.

Lots of dribble. My implant is fine. Recovery was about what I expected. My internal anatomy puts my pump higher than I'd want. But the pump works great & is relatively easy to use. I believe that to reduce revisions due to tubing failures at the top of the pump. I likely have a pre assembled system. They do get quite a bit of flexing & if any splices are there then they're at a risk of failing. I have a deep cruz so some of the tubing was needed to just get the pump into my sack. Thus its high. Dr has offered to lower it but not by much. Oh wait. Would that be a revision in your mind? I'd be willing to accept the slight risk of splices to get a better pump location but where its at isn't a deal breaker to me. It works, that is what matters. As I've tried to tell guys, especially young guys. Define your goals. Don't worry about revisions. They are generally easier than the first implant plus most men get a 2 or 3 cm longer implant. The extra cm's do not always mean a longer penis. Remember you only see the implant that is external to your body. Around a third of your implant is in your body. So a slight increase of implant length might mean that more went into your body.
68yo, HBP at 40, high triglycerides at 45. Phimosis at 57. Type 2 at 60. Dr. William Brant May 1, 2023 CX 21cm w/no rte's penoscrotal 6" girth @ 6 months

Copilot77
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Re: FDA link to see improvements of implants

Postby Copilot77 » Sat Dec 16, 2023 12:27 pm

Gt1956 wrote:
Copilot77 wrote:
Gt1956 wrote:Interesting to read the AMS link. The improvements, in my own experience, don't seem to be problems with my own pump. I wonder if pehaps there is a pattern of inconsistency in how well the pumps work in all implantees?
I will say that the point about the pump refill rate being faster might be helpful. After each squeeze, it seems like my pump works a little better if I give it a few seconds pause to allow the pump to refill before the next squeeze. Guys that are trying to inflate fast might end up using more pumps because their bulb isn't full for each squeeze.
Lets be generous & say they could reduce the time required for each squeeze by 2 seconds. So an average total inflation time for "15 pumps to max" would be reduced by half a minute. I guess that in the heat of the moment, 30 seconds could be seen as an eternity.
I don't see the time being saved as a big break through but it does fit in with my opinion that future improvements are going to be in small increments.
Wolfpacker, thanks for posting the link.

How's your experience been with the implant boss?

I'm a prolific poster. My history is filled with my experiences. I try to honestly & reasonably report what happens to ME. Btw, don't ask me about penis size. I made a commitment to myself when I got my implant to not post sizes. The penis size during recovery changes slowly & can take up to 18 months to reach your final size. I've seen internet sleuths post about old sizes & then a discussion has to happen about that was then, this is now. Waste of time in my opinion. Having said that, I have confirmed that I've reached a 6" girth now. I wasn't surprised because was slightly over 6" before. I only posted that milestone because there is a common belief that AMS implants seldom go over the 5.5 to 5.8 girth range. A member was wanting an AMS & FT research was telling him that he could't get his 6" girth back. I'm not the only 6" girth AMS owner on FT.

Lots of dribble. My implant is fine. Recovery was about what I expected. My internal anatomy puts my pump higher than I'd want. But the pump works great & is relatively easy to use. I believe that to reduce revisions due to tubing failures at the top of the pump. I likely have a pre assembled system. They do get quite a bit of flexing & if any splices are there then they're at a risk of failing. I have a deep cruz so some of the tubing was needed to just get the pump into my sack. Thus its high. Dr has offered to lower it but not by much. Oh wait. Would that be a revision in your mind? I'd be willing to accept the slight risk of splices to get a better pump location but where its at isn't a deal breaker to me. It works, that is what matters. As I've tried to tell guys, especially young guys. Define your goals. Don't worry about revisions. They are generally easier than the first implant plus most men get a 2 or 3 cm longer implant. The extra cm's do not always mean a longer penis. Remember you only see the implant that is external to your body. Around a third of your implant is in your body. So a slight increase of implant length might mean that more went into your body.


Wow, this was very insightful appreciate it.

I'm 21 feeling very hopeless about this all. I had several incidents of trauma to my dick. Now im left with constant flaccid and erect pain, and a glans that doesn't get as hard. BAD ED you name it.

This has been a very low point for me just because I got my first gf recently. I was a late bloomer.

So now I look like a younger version of cillian Murphy its easy for me to get any girl I want. But the thing is the ED leaves me struggling to stay even somewhat firm.

I'm trying to stay rational to some extent, but a part of me a wants to get an implant fast. So I can show my gf who's boss. My insurance happens to accept Edward Karpman. So its tempting I know he's a good Doc and could help me out.

Impressive girth by the way. I may have been around 5 inches ish or 4.9 before me dick problems began. Not sure if I can gain more with the implant that would be sweet.

Considering I'm 21 the revisions are at the back of my mind because I've read a couple of dudes here that have had multiple revisions every 3 years or so.

But I'm not sure if thats the norm or what.

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Re: FDA link to see improvements of implants

Postby Copilot77 » Sat Dec 16, 2023 12:34 pm

Gt1956 wrote:
Copilot77 wrote:
Gt1956 wrote:Interesting to read the AMS link. The improvements, in my own experience, don't seem to be problems with my own pump. I wonder if pehaps there is a pattern of inconsistency in how well the pumps work in all implantees?
I will say that the point about the pump refill rate being faster might be helpful. After each squeeze, it seems like my pump works a little better if I give it a few seconds pause to allow the pump to refill before the next squeeze. Guys that are trying to inflate fast might end up using more pumps because their bulb isn't full for each squeeze.
Lets be generous & say they could reduce the time required for each squeeze by 2 seconds. So an average total inflation time for "15 pumps to max" would be reduced by half a minute. I guess that in the heat of the moment, 30 seconds could be seen as an eternity.
I don't see the time being saved as a big break through but it does fit in with my opinion that future improvements are going to be in small increments.
Wolfpacker, thanks for posting the link.

How's your experience been with the implant boss?

I'm a prolific poster. My history is filled with my experiences. I try to honestly & reasonably report what happens to ME. Btw, don't ask me about penis size. I made a commitment to myself when I got my implant to not post sizes. The penis size during recovery changes slowly & can take up to 18 months to reach your final size. I've seen internet sleuths post about old sizes & then a discussion has to happen about that was then, this is now. Waste of time in my opinion. Having said that, I have confirmed that I've reached a 6" girth now. I wasn't surprised because was slightly over 6" before. I only posted that milestone because there is a common belief that AMS implants seldom go over the 5.5 to 5.8 girth range. A member was wanting an AMS & FT research was telling him that he could't get his 6" girth back. I'm not the only 6" girth AMS owner on FT.

Lots of dribble. My implant is fine. Recovery was about what I expected. My internal anatomy puts my pump higher than I'd want. But the pump works great & is relatively easy to use. I believe that to reduce revisions due to tubing failures at the top of the pump. I likely have a pre assembled system. They do get quite a bit of flexing & if any splices are there then they're at a risk of failing. I have a deep cruz so some of the tubing was needed to just get the pump into my sack. Thus its high. Dr has offered to lower it but not by much. Oh wait. Would that be a revision in your mind? I'd be willing to accept the slight risk of splices to get a better pump location but where its at isn't a deal breaker to me. It works, that is what matters. As I've tried to tell guys, especially young guys. Define your goals. Don't worry about revisions. They are generally easier than the first implant plus most men get a 2 or 3 cm longer implant. The extra cm's do not always mean a longer penis. Remember you only see the implant that is external to your body. Around a third of your implant is in your body. So a slight increase of implant length might mean that more went into your body.


Ideally, if I decide to go with it.

I'd hope for at least 9 years of use, enough time for me to get a decent job to save money and become established.

Let's say I have more 4 more implants that last more or less that amount of time. I'd be around 56-60 years old at the time on my 3rd or 4th if the tech doesn't advance much.

But then again I'm not taking account for new advances in implant technonolgy and surgery techniques. So maybe that's on my side as well.

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Re: FDA link to see improvements of implants

Postby Gt1956 » Sat Dec 16, 2023 1:31 pm

Copilot77 wrote:
Gt1956 wrote:
Copilot77 wrote:How's your experience been with the implant boss?

I'm a prolific poster. My history is filled with my experiences. I try to honestly & reasonably report what happens to ME. Btw, don't ask me about penis size. I made a commitment to myself when I got my implant to not post sizes. The penis size during recovery changes slowly & can take up to 18 months to reach your final size. I've seen internet sleuths post about old sizes & then a discussion has to happen about that was then, this is now. Waste of time in my opinion. Having said that, I have confirmed that I've reached a 6" girth now. I wasn't surprised because was slightly over 6" before. I only posted that milestone because there is a common belief that AMS implants seldom go over the 5.5 to 5.8 girth range. A member was wanting an AMS & FT research was telling him that he could't get his 6" girth back. I'm not the only 6" girth AMS owner on FT.

Lots of dribble. My implant is fine. Recovery was about what I expected. My internal anatomy puts my pump higher than I'd want. But the pump works great & is relatively easy to use. I believe that to reduce revisions due to tubing failures at the top of the pump. I likely have a pre assembled system. They do get quite a bit of flexing & if any splices are there then they're at a risk of failing. I have a deep cruz so some of the tubing was needed to just get the pump into my sack. Thus its high. Dr has offered to lower it but not by much. Oh wait. Would that be a revision in your mind? I'd be willing to accept the slight risk of splices to get a better pump location but where its at isn't a deal breaker to me. It works, that is what matters. As I've tried to tell guys, especially young guys. Define your goals. Don't worry about revisions. They are generally easier than the first implant plus most men get a 2 or 3 cm longer implant. The extra cm's do not always mean a longer penis. Remember you only see the implant that is external to your body. Around a third of your implant is in your body. So a slight increase of implant length might mean that more went into your body.


Ideally, if I decide to go with it.

I'd hope for at least 9 years of use, enough time for me to get a decent job to save money and become established.

Let's say I have more 4 more implants that last more or less that amount of time. I'd be around 56-60 years old at the time on my 3rd or 4th if the tech doesn't advance much.

But then again I'm not taking account for new advances in implant technonolgy and surgery techniques. So maybe that's on my side as well.

We have hijacked OP's thread. Not fair to him. I'm going to stay on topic.
68yo, HBP at 40, high triglycerides at 45. Phimosis at 57. Type 2 at 60. Dr. William Brant May 1, 2023 CX 21cm w/no rte's penoscrotal 6" girth @ 6 months


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