So many surgeon's without empathy

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Flexwheeler
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So many surgeon's without empathy

Postby Flexwheeler » Wed Jan 24, 2024 5:23 pm

Hi folks,

In the last years I have visited some implanteers and urologist's in Europe. One thing that wonders me is why most of them show so less empathy and social intelligence. It's like I visit them with a delicate problem so at least just show some understanding.
Most show no sympathy at alll. Maybe I visited just the wrong ones (doesn't want them to name and shame here), or it is a European thing.

Wonder if it is just me. And yes I behave very friendly myself.

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Re: So many surgeon's without empathy

Postby Musson » Wed Jan 24, 2024 5:31 pm

I have run into the same attitude in California where a large integrated health organization controls the medical market. Their attitude is very dismissive of ordinary ED.
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fucked0ne
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Re: So many surgeon's without empathy

Postby fucked0ne » Wed Jan 24, 2024 5:52 pm

I think it's because so many doctors are probably high-functioning autists.
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Alex258
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Re: So many surgeon's without empathy

Postby Alex258 » Wed Jan 24, 2024 6:29 pm

Guess I lucked out with Perito. Great, great guy. Very caring with empathy.

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Re: So many surgeon's without empathy

Postby Mark1974 » Wed Jan 24, 2024 8:29 pm

I lucked out with Levine, also fantastic guy

But I've certainly run into that with doctors

Some of my father's cancer doctors when he was dying of leukemia were cold bordering on cruel
Born 6/15/74. I have substantial venous leak with fairly severe hour-glassing, but no hard plaques. My urologist is sexual health expert Dr. Laurence Levine who performed a Doppler Ultrasound and diagnosed me with VL in 2020. I also have mild BPH

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Re: So many surgeon's without empathy

Postby fucked0ne » Thu Jan 25, 2024 1:18 am

Mark1974,

I guess when you've seen it so many times you get desensitized.

That or, like I said: high-functioning autists.
40. Implanted July 5, 2024, by Dr. Andrew Kramer, Urology Associates of Cape Cod. AMS LGX, 21cm cylinders + 2cm RTEs. Idiopathic erectile dysfunction following bacterial infection. Tried pulse waves, Cialis, even spinal injections. Nada.

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Re: So many surgeon's without empathy

Postby Lost Sheep » Thu Jan 25, 2024 3:05 am

Surgeons' primary talent should be to be good with a knife. Good bedside manner is a plus, not a requirement. The only specialty that requires less personality is pathologist.
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Re: So many surgeon's without empathy

Postby ThailandBound » Thu Jan 25, 2024 8:13 am

Lost Sheep wrote:Surgeons' primary talent should be to be good with a knife. Good bedside manner is a plus, not a requirement. The only specialty that requires less personality is pathologist.


That’s funny. My ex brother in law is a pathologist. He’s well suited, personality-wise, for doing autopsies. My brother is a doctor too. Definitely lacking in the charm department.
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Re: So many surgeon's without empathy

Postby Old Guy » Thu Jan 25, 2024 8:32 am

We are lucky to have quite a few good doctors where we live. Although my implant surgeon is good at his craft, he lacks bedside manners and aftercare information. My new urologist is a nice guy. He called me a few days after my bladder surgery and talked to me for 10-15 minutes, more like an old friend than a doc. Guess you have to search for good doctors now, corporate pressures to see X number of patients per hour rules their time. Gone are the days when a doc had his own little practice, they are all being bought out by big corp.
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Re: So many surgeon's without empathy

Postby Ronn1708 » Thu Jan 25, 2024 11:03 am

I feel I’ve been very lucky. Dr Hakky in Atlanta is super nice and caring !!! Spoke with Dr Perito a couple years ago via phone. He too was. Wet concerned.
I feel blessed !!
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