Maintaining erection with zero physical stimulation

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Flavio
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Re: Maintaining erection with zero physical stimulation

Postby Flavio » Thu Feb 22, 2024 10:08 am

In my case, it's the exact opposite: mental / visual stimulation is much more important than physical. If I'm anxious or depressed, no amount of physical stimulation will get me hard enough for penetration.
Age 40. Psychogenic ED for over 20 years. Current regimen: Udenafil 200 mg, oral phentolamine mesylate 40 mg, Seredyn.

Never_Enough
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Re: Maintaining erection with zero physical stimulation

Postby Never_Enough » Thu Feb 22, 2024 12:18 pm

ready2go wrote:
Never_Enough wrote:This seems to be something that crops up time to time.

"I have mild to moderate ED, but one thing I tend to find that differs online to reality is maintaining erections with no physical stimulation.

Now as far as I was aware other than in your teens possibly maintaining erections without stimulation wasn't normal."





Surely if I had venous leak. I would lose it regardless of stimulation.

If I stop all manual stimulation, my erection will be down within 30 seconds regardless.


.......really ? i could hang a towel on mine and walk around like that in my 30s . and if we were going to have company over, she better not start anything otherwise they would be looking at big ol woody

its going down because you have vl . you have blood flow in but it's not held in without stimulation, if you lose it during sex it's getting worse . Having the girl ride you is the first position most guys start loosing their erection in .


Then so many guys would have VL though. All my friends I have asked about this say they have the same kind of issue and without being manually touched it would go down. Surely they don't all have VL? Isn't it quite rare?

VL description seems. To indicste inability to get or maintain a full erection at all... With the right stimulation I can maintain it fully for as long as I want prior to the cpps, would this still happen with VL?

That said girl on top is a definite loss for me because. It barely stimulates the glans at all.

It's a question of Stimulation and stress , because surely if it were VL you would still lose it regardless of the type of stimulation.
38 m UK

Psychogenic ED since forever fewer problems being fully erect alone.
2 kids, 3rd on the way. Long term partner.
Chronic pelvic pain pudendal neuralgia and muscle tightness in late 2023 onwards making ED worse.
Cialis 5 mg daily and 15 mg as prn

Never_Enough
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Re: Maintaining erection with zero physical stimulation

Postby Never_Enough » Thu Feb 22, 2024 1:15 pm

ready2go wrote:
Never_Enough wrote:This seems to be something that crops up time to time.

"I have mild to moderate ED, but one thing I tend to find that differs online to reality is maintaining erections with no physical stimulation.

Now as far as I was aware other than in your teens possibly maintaining erections without stimulation wasn't normal."





Surely if I had venous leak. I would lose it regardless of stimulation.

If I stop all manual stimulation, my erection will be down within 30 seconds regardless.


.......really ? i could hang a towel on mine and walk around like that in my 30s . and if we were going to have company over, she better not start anything otherwise they would be looking at big ol woody

its going down because you have vl . you have blood flow in but it's not held in without stimulation, if you lose it during sex it's getting worse . Having the girl ride you is the first position most guys start loosing their erection in .



I guess this is also the odd thing about ED.

. My Long term partner and kids mum think it's ridiculous I worry about having ED as they see me getting regular hard ons and only really enjoy missionary and doggy so it rarely causes a big issue.

However they aren't aware I take cialis or the mental stress I go through worrying about staying hard.

The the definition of ED is not being able to get or maintain an erection fornsex.. Not just not being able to get one without physical stimulation.

So what actually is ED and is it more person dependant.

I. E a woman whois. More demanding and wants sex all over the place In different positions might consider a man like Me to have Ed, but another thinks it's ludicrous.
38 m UK

Psychogenic ED since forever fewer problems being fully erect alone.
2 kids, 3rd on the way. Long term partner.
Chronic pelvic pain pudendal neuralgia and muscle tightness in late 2023 onwards making ED worse.
Cialis 5 mg daily and 15 mg as prn

newt69
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Re: Maintaining erection with zero physical stimulation

Postby newt69 » Thu Feb 22, 2024 3:35 pm

without pills, I can get a full erection for 10 to 20 seconds, sometimes up to 30 seconds. with 20mg cialis anywhere from 45 seconds to 70 seconds. with 50 mg old viagra 1 minute, with the latest viagra thats purple from india, I easily get 2 minutes plus. I also tried increasing old viagra to 75 and 100, it works better but I didnt time it. also will try increasing cialis. when I first got on pills cialis was 10 times better. if i wake up in the night have erection or semi erections 80% of time. if I sleep solid all night about 1 or 2 erections in a month. being 70 in june. in my imho it is old age orgasm are duller sensations not too bad but not the same as when I was young.

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Re: Maintaining erection with zero physical stimulation

Postby Phillygaymale » Fri Feb 23, 2024 1:44 pm

I didn’t quote the original post but it sounds exactly like my situation. I can easily get a full erection but without manual stimulation I will also lose it quickly. I have taken viagra at times and cialis at times with decent results from both for different reasons. I often wonder if there is something physically ’wrong’ with me and I have been to a urologist. They only asked questions, did not do any kind of examination, and just prescribed pills.
I’m new here and I appreciate the forum to see if anyone has similar experiences as I do and it’s great talking openly about it with another guy that gets it.

Never_Enough
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Re: Maintaining erection with zero physical stimulation

Postby Never_Enough » Sat Feb 24, 2024 9:27 am

Phillygaymale wrote:I didn’t quote the original post but it sounds exactly like my situation. I can easily get a full erection but without manual stimulation I will also lose it quickly. I have taken viagra at times and cialis at times with decent results from both for different reasons. I often wonder if there is something physically ’wrong’ with me and I have been to a urologist. They only asked questions, did not do any kind of examination, and just prescribed pills.
I’m new here and I appreciate the forum to see if anyone has similar experiences as I do and it’s great talking openly about it with another guy that gets it.


I think we possibly listen to too much online, where people can exagerrate or make generalisation statements.

I don't think daytime erections without physcial stimulation are the norm, especially in guys over 30. I have asked pretty much all over 30 friends who say they lose erections if they aren't being stimulated. They can't all have VL.

It's worth remembering on average sex lasts just over 5 minutes and only about 20% or less of women cum from piv sex.

The idea that we need to be jackhammering away for 30 minutes in a dozen different positions to give a women multiple orgasm is all in a man's head. They probably aren't even having those orgasms.

10 minutes of sex and 20 minutes foreplay is far better.
38 m UK

Psychogenic ED since forever fewer problems being fully erect alone.
2 kids, 3rd on the way. Long term partner.
Chronic pelvic pain pudendal neuralgia and muscle tightness in late 2023 onwards making ED worse.
Cialis 5 mg daily and 15 mg as prn

ready2go
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Re: Maintaining erection with zero physical stimulation

Postby ready2go » Mon Feb 26, 2024 8:24 pm

when i was in my late 20s i had a nympho gf and we did it every morning and a couple of long rounds in the evening and after her a asian chick .when she would come over for the night it was on. she counted the times we did it that night and the moring ,5 times .
no dick going down , no problem with any positions . then i married early 30s
we did it every day ,5 times a day . for a month .
just to compare to now at early 60s . its not like that any more .
break out the little pills and take supplements. Aging has its effect .
in my experience when i was younger, getting hard and staying that way with no physical stimulation was normal . even when i got laid every morning by noon i was needing more . at the time i had heard mention of ED and thought ; yeah that wont ever happen to me .im over sexed . and here i am now haha .
if your woody is going down in short time or needs constant attention, id say its VL to some degree . damn i used to have to use mental thoughts to make my hardon go away , not to get it to stay hard . now its reversed .
once at 30 years of age I brought a date to eat out and i had a raging boner that wouldn't stop. wearing tight jeans ,i had to put my hand in my pocket to try to hide it ,
.
the waitress wasn't fooled and she sported a big ol smile .
i wish they had a pill to bring back that level of bonerness haha .
well enter the implant .

Flavio
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Re: Maintaining erection with zero physical stimulation

Postby Flavio » Tue Feb 27, 2024 6:26 am

Very interesting thread. Everyone is different, less libido or frequency doesn't necessarily mean illness or dysfunction. In my case, I am 47 y.o. and can easily get an erection in a few seconds, no manual stimulation. BUT I can also lose it very quickly, one wrong thought and down it goes. I am an OCD type personality, maybe I have an overactive sympathetic system and that affects my sexual performance, I have no idea.
Age 40. Psychogenic ED for over 20 years. Current regimen: Udenafil 200 mg, oral phentolamine mesylate 40 mg, Seredyn.

Never_Enough
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Re: Maintaining erection with zero physical stimulation

Postby Never_Enough » Tue Feb 27, 2024 9:16 am

I think the reason for my needing stimulation is mostly my pelvic pain. The Bulbospongiosus muscle is always very tight.

I did notice the other day with my partner I can get hard without manual stimulation when kissing and touching but as soon as the tightness makes the muscle feel fatigued it starts getting ultra sensitive, nerves get irriated etc.

Whilst I am going to get a doppler properly to rule it out I don't think it is VL as I can achieve and maintain a full erection.. Just under quite specific circumstances because of the pain.

I'm not interested in 6 sessions a day with a beauty queen in half a dozen positions I just want reliability for my partner

80% of the time I can keep a good erection for 10 mins+... And whilst that's enough for my partner I always feel I need to offer more. She isn't a nymphomaniac and isn't that concerned about.my dick, as we have sex about 3 or 4.times a week, so maybe injections are my Logical step forward
38 m UK

Psychogenic ED since forever fewer problems being fully erect alone.
2 kids, 3rd on the way. Long term partner.
Chronic pelvic pain pudendal neuralgia and muscle tightness in late 2023 onwards making ED worse.
Cialis 5 mg daily and 15 mg as prn

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Re: Maintaining erection with zero physical stimulation

Postby rjnsingh98@gmail.com » Tue Apr 09, 2024 8:01 am

I am also scrared of this venou leakage, I can do foreplay for max 8 mins, I am scared to lose the erection beyond 8 mins, but I don’t stimulate, and I can have sex for 15 mins , I don’t take any pills, Can I have venous leak? I am very scared of it.


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