Different Perceptions of Hardness in AMS700

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Stampede
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Re: Different Perceptions of Hardness in AMS700

Postby Stampede » Tue Jun 04, 2024 6:25 pm

wilsonmill wrote:Hopefully will find out this month when I get a revision .

best of luck for your revision! So you are changing the manufacturer for your revision?
30yo, Germany. Priapism January 2024, erections after that sometimes good, sometimes shit.
implanted 09th September 2024, Rigicon Infla10X 20cm+1cm RTE

Stampede
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Re: Different Perceptions of Hardness in AMS700

Postby Stampede » Tue Jun 04, 2024 6:28 pm

newbie443 wrote:
Stampede wrote:Hello and welcome to my first post. I will soon complete my signature and start a journal, but I have a preliminary question. And no, this is not another post asking "how hard does the implant get?"

When it comes to the hardness of the AMS700, especially regarding the LGX model, it's often mentioned here that "the CX is harder than the LGX" or "the LGX still has a slight bend."
However, there are also many comments stating "my LGX is as hard as two steel rods."
Yes, it has something to do with length, but fundamentally, how does this come about?

Do different men have different perceptions of "hard as steel," or could it be that other factors (such as the manner of implantation) cause the same implant to end up with different hardness levels?

I suspect I'll receive many responses along the lines of "well, MY LGX is extremely hard" or "I had an LGX/CX, but my Titan is much harder now," but I'm not looking for personal experiences. I've read every post and comment in this forum up to page 270. I just want to gather opinions on how the same implant can result in different hardness levels in two men. Is it due to different tunica? Too little fluid in the reservoir? Good/bad cycling regimen?

Best regards from Germany!


Hello and welcome to the site. I see it a bit different. I think the difference is with inflation level. Some men just pump thing up more than others. With differences in hand strength this would be understandable. As far as the 21 cm LGX, it is not made in a larger size as the soft cylinder walls will not support the fluid when filled in longer sizes. Some doctors feel that even the 21cm LGX will give problems. Others like my doctor do not and implant a lot of 21 cm LGX devices. And there are a lot of me on this site that have had great results with the 21 cm LGX. I am one of those that really like mine. I have a 90 degree or 3 o'clock erection angle. But I am not one that wanted an erection angle higher than that. For men who do the LGX would be the wrong choice. I had a 4 o'clock erection angle for a long time and just like regaining lost length I had increases out past a year. I measured 11cm up and down. So I have a fairly deep Crus. This gives my device good support. Someone with a shallow Crus may have different results. Say if I was 5 cm down and 17 cm up. A lot more of the cylinders would be out with no support. As these numbers are not known prior to surgery this may be the reason some doctors will not have a 21 cm LGX as an option going into surgery.

Just my understanding of how stuff works. Good luck going forward with this.

I see what you mean. There arises a new question: you have different lenghts of the same implant. Lets say 20cm and 18cm. But in both cases you got the same reservoir with the same amount of fluid in it. Does this mean, the shorter implant will have the ability to get harder by design? Because it has more volume to fill/max out with less fluid?
30yo, Germany. Priapism January 2024, erections after that sometimes good, sometimes shit.
implanted 09th September 2024, Rigicon Infla10X 20cm+1cm RTE

wolfpacker
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Re: Different Perceptions of Hardness in AMS700

Postby wolfpacker » Tue Jun 04, 2024 6:29 pm

Stampede wrote:
newbie443 wrote:
Stampede wrote:Hello and welcome to my first post. I will soon complete my signature and start a journal, but I have a preliminary question. And no, this is not another post asking "how hard does the implant get?"

When it comes to the hardness of the AMS700, especially regarding the LGX model, it's often mentioned here that "the CX is harder than the LGX" or "the LGX still has a slight bend."
However, there are also many comments stating "my LGX is as hard as two steel rods."
Yes, it has something to do with length, but fundamentally, how does this come about?

Do different men have different perceptions of "hard as steel," or could it be that other factors (such as the manner of implantation) cause the same implant to end up with different hardness levels?

I suspect I'll receive many responses along the lines of "well, MY LGX is extremely hard" or "I had an LGX/CX, but my Titan is much harder now," but I'm not looking for personal experiences. I've read every post and comment in this forum up to page 270. I just want to gather opinions on how the same implant can result in different hardness levels in two men. Is it due to different tunica? Too little fluid in the reservoir? Good/bad cycling regimen?

Best regards from Germany!


Hello and welcome to the site. I see it a bit different. I think the difference is with inflation level. Some men just pump thing up more than others. With differences in hand strength this would be understandable. As far as the 21 cm LGX, it is not made in a larger size as the soft cylinder walls will not support the fluid when filled in longer sizes. Some doctors feel that even the 21cm LGX will give problems. Others like my doctor do not and implant a lot of 21 cm LGX devices. And there are a lot of me on this site that have had great results with the 21 cm LGX. I am one of those that really like mine. I have a 90 degree or 3 o'clock erection angle. But I am not one that wanted an erection angle higher than that. For men who do the LGX would be the wrong choice. I had a 4 o'clock erection angle for a long time and just like regaining lost length I had increases out past a year. I measured 11cm up and down. So I have a fairly deep Crus. This gives my device good support. Someone with a shallow Crus may have different results. Say if I was 5 cm down and 17 cm up. A lot more of the cylinders would be out with no support. As these numbers are not known prior to surgery this may be the reason some doctors will not have a 21 cm LGX as an option going into surgery.

Just my understanding of how stuff works. Good luck going forward with this.

I see what you mean. There arises a new question: you have different lenghts of the same implant. Lets say 20cm and 18cm. But in both cases you got the same reservoir with the same amount of fluid in it. Does this mean, the shorter implant will have the ability to get harder by design? Because it has more volume to fill/max out with less fluid?


No, as long as the amount of fluid is enough to max out the implant then it'll be no different
Early 30s with ED for years from penis enlargement stretching and jelqing. Implant by Dr Eid on 24 June 2021 with a Titan 24cm with +1cm RTE on one side and -1cm cut off on the other side

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wilsonmill
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Re: Different Perceptions of Hardness in AMS700

Postby wilsonmill » Tue Jun 04, 2024 7:44 pm

Stampede wrote:
wilsonmill wrote:Hopefully will find out this month when I get a revision .

best of luck for your revision! So you are changing the manufacturer for your revision?


Stampede, yes I am changing mfgs, the urologist told me AMS700 LGX is what he recommended, so I should be able to answer the question in about 8-10 weeks, fingers crossed, I had forgotten what a non working pecker was like, I do not miss it at all.... can't get it done soon enough.
Age 64, type 1 diabetic, Married 20+ years, Titan implant 23 cm 27Feb2019, Duke Medical Hospital, Dr Lentz, failed March of 2024, revision 25Jun24 AMS700 LGX 18cm 5rte's Dr Andrew Chang associated urology Raleigh NC, Rex Hospital

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Re: Different Perceptions of Hardness in AMS700

Postby Jage64 » Tue Jun 04, 2024 8:45 pm

frank66665 wrote:jage64 having sex at 80% does not bend?


It does not bend at 80% during any type of intercourse and most closely mimics my natural penis rigidity before ED. At 100% she says it feels like a rubber covered plastic dildo (which is sort of what it is ;) ), no give or softness at all.
2/22/23 AMS 700 CX 21cm + 1.5cm RTEs. 58 yrs old, wife of 37 yrs. Penoscrotal. 100ml Conceal reservoir. Dr. Clavell. Pills failing and went right to implant, skipped the injections. 12 mos. later: 7 1/2" x 5 3/4"


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