LGX vs CX Implants

[nuance]

I'm wondering if the LGX is the most comfortable implant in the flaccid state. However, there seems to be no issues with the CX in the flaccid state.

I also wonder if the CX has more durable cylinders than the LGX.

I was wondering the same, else why use the CX if the LGX is better in every way.

[Txagq8]

The CX is much better than the LGX at straightening out a guy afflicted with Peyronie’s.

The LGX is a good choice for guys needing a longer implant because it shrinks when flaccid. Not by a whole lot—- you’re looking at 1-1.5 in. But a 5” flaccid is a lot better to stuff in tight jeans, gym shorts, or a swimsuit unless you’re trying to flaunt a 7” softy.

The regular CX seems to be a bit better on girth than the LGX. For guys with a really narrow space or some scarring & fibrosis, the CX comes in a narrow body cylinder.

There are some subtle differences that might lead a urological surgeon to favor one model over another.

[frank66665]

in my opinion the lengthening of the lgx is all marketing, I don't think that anyone can stretch more than their own anatomy, I think that the lgx gives the impression of lengthening because being very soft, its flaccid or cylinders in the penis become so small that when it swollen, it gives the impression of lengthening, but it lengthens the maximum of what you have available, and not beyond your anatomy, any serious implantologist will never tell you that an implant lengthens your penis

Are you arguing the numerous authoritative studies by real urologists, the anecdotal evidence from people like me who never once measured their dicks at 9" or above before implant, but do now every time and can easily prove it, all this is merely "marketing"?



How could the bottom of that ad (I know its an ad, but that doesn't mean its wrong) report where it got the proof if the proof is wrong?

When you say you can't grow past your anatomy, we can thank the penis enlargement (PE) idiots for at least proving if you stretch your dick tissue enough they can get longer, and it's not only the impression, even if it's obviously temporary and dangerous since they have nothing to support the new stretched tissues.

Implantees can do it and have it actually be permanent. Tissues in our bodies are obviously capable of enlarging. And sticking a valuable and expensive device invented by real scientists and implanted by real surgeons that was created to do exactly that is far too credible to say they're all lying.

It's not the dick that lengthens but the implant, if you have 6 inches, you can't go more than that with any implant on the market, lgx is used mostly on patients who have had fibrosis for years, and who have shrunk penis, then yes, LGX could bring you back to your original size, which you had lost in the ED ads, but in addition to what you have, no implant lengthens your penis, in fact implantologists tell you that the implant is not needed to lengthen your penis. penis, but to give you an erection

[easymoney]

I agree that your penis can only "stretch" so far. I do think implants can bring back some lost size, but many forget age itself makes your penis shrink and nothing is stronger than mother nature so you get what you get and just be happy you are able to get back in the game with your penis.

[tomas1]

I disagree that the implant can't give you more than you had.
An aggressive sizing WILL stretch the tissue, probably permanently.
I say this from my experience. My CX isn't supposed to grow in length, but it can cause the tissue to stretch a bit.
It's not too good to have an overly aggressive sizing.

[Txagq8]

It's not too good to have an overly aggressive sizing.

I can see how having the implant poke thru the head of your dick during sex would be a real downer.

My opinion, for what it’s worth:

Any stretching activity will lead to very small permanent changes to penis size over time. Doctors who had their ED patients use VED therapy have noted it.

There are numerous scholarly articles out there about revisions requiring a larger size.

This will take place in men who were appropriately sized. Overly aggressive sizing is probably worse than being undersized. S-curves within the corpora, erosion & subsequent infection—-all really bad ideas.

The men who will see the biggest gains are those who have the most to gain & least to lose: men who saw significant penis shrinkage due to prostate surgery or long-term ED with no erections. There is a good chance of regaining quite a bit of the size they lost. But they’re not creating new size….they’re stretching back out to recapture something close to original dimensions.

Listen…..if putting in an oversized LGX and telling guys they could have 2 extra inches of dick worked, AMS supply could not keep up with the demand and you’d see doctors advertising it. You’ve had doctors doing the ligament cut and injecting fat or sliding in layers of cadaver tissue in attempts to give guys a bigger pecker. Alas, nothing is that simple and no it doesn’t work.

[frank66665]

the greatest success of an implantologist when he installs an implant for you is to give you back what you had, without making you lose anything

[tomas1]

I wasn't referring to huge gains, I picked up a bit over 1/4".
There was never any danger of erosion since the implant only gave a mild discomfort.
Big different between aggressive and mildly aggressive sizing.
I never had any shrinkage before getting implanted, and I've never used a VED afterward.

[2435tjklAS]

It's not the dick that lengthens but the implant, if you have 6 inches, you can't go more than that with any implant on the market, lgx is used mostly on patients who have had fibrosis for years, and who have shrunk penis, then yes, LGX could bring you back to your original size, which you had lost in the ED ads, but in addition to what you have, no implant lengthens your penis, in fact implantologists tell you that the implant is not needed to lengthen your penis. penis, but to give you an erection

Cliffs: Here’s a lot of proof you're wrong, my dick pics toward the end that I’m really hoping to delete later, and my conclusion that you're actually technically right because this is all a matter of interpretation.

First, I think one problem with your opinion that it is both impossible to lengthen your penis plus an implant certainly can’t lengthen your penis either is that on the other hand, there’s a whole lot of clinical research it happens, also the invention of traction devices like the RestoreX that passed FDA approval and are proven to increase with a mean of 2cm, plus a huge amount of men in history and on the internet who have done exactly that, for good and for bad.

For direct information from the medical research proving that implants can increase penis size, here’s what Dr. Wang in 05/2022 wrote about what research had been done up to that date using VEDs post-implant that showed increases in dick size:

Penile size has been a concern for many patients and implant surgeons. Few studies evaluated the use of VED to improve the penile size in men undergoing penile prosthesis placement. The earliest such study was a phone survey of 12 men who had been utilizing VED following penile implants and found that 11 of the 12 patients reported improved erectile rigidity and girth when using the VED concomitantly.16 Another prospective study investigated VED use after penile implant for PD as part of post-implant rehabilitation in 145 patients. There was significant reduction of residual curvature and improvement of IIEF-5 scores.17 A third study looked at the VED use preoperatively for at least 10-15 minutes/twice daily for a minimum of 3 months in 13 men with severe corporal fibrosis. VED appeared to soften corporal fibrosis and facilitate placement of penile prosthesis. Patients also had a mean increase of SPL of 0.92 cm after penile implants compared to preoperative lengths.18 Lastly, a study randomized 51 patients to 10-15 minutes daily VED use preoperatively versus no pre-op interventions and found that daily VED for at least 1 month led to a statistically significant increase of SPL by a mean of 0.8 cm compared to the control group.19

Wang, R. (2022). Is There Still a Role for Vacuum Erection Devices in Contemporary Sexual Medicine? The Journal of Sexual Medicine, 19(5), Article 5. https://doi.org/10.1016/j.jsxm.2022.02.013

I attached the Wang study and here's what he cited:

Soderdahl, D. W., Petroski, R. A., Mode, D., Schwartz, B. F., & Thrasher, J. B. (1997). The use of an external vacuum device to augment a penile prosthesis. Techniques in Urology, 3(2), 100–102. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/9297771/

Antonini, G., De Berardinis, E., Del Giudice, F., Busetto, G. M., Lauretti, S., Fragas, R., Chung, B. I., Conti, S. L., Giannarelli, D., Sperduti, I., Gross, M. S., & Perito, P. E. (2018). Inflatable Penile Prosthesis Placement, Scratch Technique and Postoperative Vacuum Therapy as a Combined Approach to Definitive Treatment of Peyronie’s Disease. Journal of Urology, 2003. https://doi.org/10.1016/j.juro.2018.04.060

Tsambarlis, P. N., Chaus, F., & Levine, L. A. (2017). Successful Placement of Penile Prostheses in Men with Severe Corporal Fibrosis Following Vacuum Therapy Protocol. The Journal of Sexual Medicine, 14(1), Article 1. https://doi.org/10.1016/j.jsxm.2016.11.304

Canguven, O., Talib, R. A., Campbell, J., De Young, L., El Ansari, W., & Al-Ansari, A. (2017). Is the daily use of vacuum erection device for a month before penile prosthesis implantation beneficial? A randomized controlled trial. Andrology, 5(1), Article 1. https://doi.org/10.1111/andr.12258

Those are real doctors, doing real studies, following the scientific method and finding data that proves it - getting an implant and using a VED after surgery will make your dick bigger.

And here’s a newer study in 2023 (there might be others, plan to look soon but haven't lately) after Wang wrote that where they had 2 groups of patients - one group used a VED pre-implant, one didn't, but they both used VEDs post-implant and this happened:

All patients regularly used the VED. A statistically significant improvement of IIEF-5 (26 vs. 24; p = 0.02), “yes” to SEP2 and 3 (85% vs. 55%; p < 0.001, 85% vs. 50%; p < 0.001, respectively), was reported between the two groups. Moreover, the PDQ overall score significantly improved between the two groups (−16 vs. −11; p = 0.03). Thirty-five patients maintained a complete correction of penile curvature (zero degrees) at 6 months (92.1%). In the treatment group, no hourglass deformities were reported. On the other hand, in the control group, one patient reported a mild hourglass deformity at 6 months of follow-up. Finally, in the treatment group, we obtained a longer total penile length (median + 1.5 cm) in comparison with the control group. The overall satisfaction rate was 98% in the treatment group and 96% in the control group, on the basis of the Patient Reported Outcomes. Twenty-five patients (65.7%) had normal penile sensitivity, whereas 13 (34.3%) reported mild hypesthesia.

Cai, T., Capece, M., Ceruti, C., Tiscione, D., Puglisi, M., Verze, P., Gontero, P., & Palmieri, A. (2023). The Use of Vacuum Devices as Adjuvant Therapy before and after Penile Curvature Surgery in Patients Affected by La Peyronie’s Disease: Results from a Comparative Study. Clinics and Practice, 13(5), Article 5. https://doi.org/10.3390/clinpract13050112

Figure out what IIEF numbers mean yourself, I forgot. btw I want to point out, despite my research and decent ability to think critically, I’m a dude with a brain injury who doesn’t actually know anything. I’m not a doctor. But I have lots of experience researching and arguing and I’m right decently often. Tell me when you think I’m not, I learned to agree sometimes. Anyway,

but in addition to what you have, no implant lengthens your penis, in fact implantologists tell you that the implant is not needed to lengthen your penis. penis, but to give you an erection

Here’s the reason why “[most] implantologists tell you that the implant is not needed to lengthen your penis.” This is the next paragraph past the Dr. Wang quote earlier:

Despite limited studies, VED use prior to penile prosthesis implantation has become a common practice by many implant surgeons, particularly for patients with known penile fibrosis. VED use after penile implantation are less likely to be offered, partly because many surgeons believe penile implants meet most patients’ needs already. Regardless surgeons’ preferences, scientific evidence is not robust either ways and further quality studies are necessary” (Wang 683).

Why? This is the reason the number #1 patient complaint about implants ever since the beginning was lost size. The (unfortunately accurate, but totally fixable) truth about a lot of men who lost an inch or more is they relied on the advice of their doctors. Some were told to do cycling 15 minutes every day, and they took it literally. But doing so can be a problem for a lot of reasons, with the first one being their doc probably didn't give a crap how big their dick gets. Your length starting at 6.3" inches but being 5.6" after implant is not medically relevant to your doctor, only a workable implant is. Smaller size meets the patients needs, from their perspective, because also importantly, hardly any doctor would ever tell their patients, "you should use a VED for an hour a day or more, and also stretch it and bend it and pull it and your dick might get bigger!!!!" No doctors say that, because malpractice. Tell a bunch of men that and see how many hurt their dicks and blame their doctors.

I messaged my urologist about more exercises after my implant and he told me to wear supportive underwear if I go jogging.

About how no implantologists recommend this, in Dr. Perito’s video of THE exercise he says he’s published about VED use post-surgery, and here he states…

“What you do with your implant after you have it to increase your length, increase your girth, increase your happiness with the implant.”

https://youtu.be/WJaZCeJjxIM?si=QNxP7wxzMxp7cbe0

He’s talking about increasing the size of your dick, not increasing the size of the implant.

I agree that your penis can only "stretch" so far. I do think implants can bring back some lost size, but many forget age itself makes your penis shrink and nothing is stronger than mother nature so you get what you get and just be happy you are able to get back in the game with your penis.

This is where it becomes a matter of how we interpret whether or not you have a bigger dick.

Before my implant I was 8.75” long every time I stretched flaccid (unfortunately never took a pic, ugh) and a few times pre-implant when I took a shit ton of viagra and measured it wanting proof pics before implant. Got some decent ones.



Now I measure it at 9” long with zero arousal and it can reach 9.5” long if measured at the right times:



(I've measured a lot myself to check it's maintaining that size (it is) but I haven't been keeping the album updated with new pics of 9.5", meh,. I should later.)

I had never stretched past 8.75" before and now I can to 9.5" (admittedly I'm stretching past the cylinders a bit if I pull too hard):



Do I have a 9.5” dick now?

Well, kinda. I can measure it pretty accurately and that appears on the ruler. It is a little less long if I stand up super straight. Really, try that yourself, lol. And if I stop cycling and using VEDs and having sex and masturbating it's not going to stay that way. You're probably right when someone reaches 80 it might be hard to maintain but who cares? Regardless, I've got a few decades where I can keep it at this size at least, plus even more learning what Txagq8 explained about gaining size from revisions. You can call it want you want, but my dick is currently 9.5" long (though I admit it's not immortal and won't stay that way forever, because nothing does).

What you need to consider is all that research that proves it's possible to increase your dick size and all the personal examples and everything else is not proving it over a time frame of 5-10+ years and doesn't act like it is.

This is (yet another) huge problem with why the penis enlargement (PE) idiots are screwing up their futures. Here is some of their proof logs they believe, but they can't even admit to themselves if they quit PE, they lose it - all of this is temporary (because again, everything is).

https://www.reddit.com/r/gettingbigger/s/WROR6MOT7R

https://www.reddit.com/r/gettingbigger/s/ecMX5wuBML

https://www.reddit.com/r/gettingbigger/s/oCTIeAWnvo

Problem is if we want to keep our size we just gotta keep using our dicks with the implants. Many PE'ers want to increase size to have better chances dating women and eventually even marriage. At that point they gotta keep doing time-consuming dangerous PE somehow behind her back, but inevitably admit to their wife she married a fake artificially sized dick.

At least all we gotta do is fuck her with it and cycle occasionally and maybe consider telling her about VEDs.

[nuance]

What’s your flaccid size, how do you manage when it’s that big (just curious since most people are concerned about flaccid bulge)?