Inflatable vs Malleable - My Experience with Both & Infection

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Hope84
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Re: Inflatable vs Malleable - My Experience with Both & Infection

Postby Hope84 » Wed Oct 09, 2024 2:12 pm

tobenormalagain wrote:I too am a malleable implantee (Tactra) at age 57yo. Not to knock them either, but I say if air travel had the same success rates as IPP implants, no one ever step foot on an airplane again.


But you can always get a new IPP if it fails, it is not like you can "run out" of revision surgeries. I have yet to come across someone on this forum who claims to be in this situation. Plus the idea of having a constant boner with a malleable, along with the risks of erosion that come with it, are off putting for me.

Age is also a factor. I just turned 30 and will most likely get an IPP before the end of the year. If I can get 20 years of implants (with, say, 2 revisions, so 3 implants in total, which is I believe quite pessimistic), then I would be happy to switch to a malleable at that age. But not now.
30 years old French with ED caused by priapism episodes at the age of 15. Pills have lost most of their potency, injections work but are painful and not a long-term solution. Scheduled for an AMS 700 CX on 05/12/2024.

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Re: Inflatable vs Malleable - My Experience with Both & Infection

Postby tobenormalagain » Wed Oct 09, 2024 3:14 pm

Hope84 wrote:
tobenormalagain wrote:I too am a malleable implantee (Tactra) at age 57yo. Not to knock them either, but I say if air travel had the same success rates as IPP implants, no one ever step foot on an airplane again.


But you can always get a new IPP if it fails, it is not like you can "run out" of revision surgeries. I have yet to come across someone on this forum who claims to be in this situation. Plus the idea of having a constant boner with a malleable, along with the risks of erosion that come with it, are off putting for me.

Age is also a factor. I just turned 30 and will most likely get an IPP before the end of the year. If I can get 20 years of implants (with, say, 2 revisions, so 3 implants in total, which is I believe quite pessimistic), then I would be happy to switch to a malleable at that age. But not now.




You surely realize that every surgery and possible subsequent revision, come with significant risks (infection, component failure, risks associated with anesthesia…), not to mention pain, time to recover…?

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Re: Inflatable vs Malleable - My Experience with Both & Infection

Postby LastHope » Wed Oct 09, 2024 6:11 pm

As much as I’ve been a fan of malleables, I’m now willing to try an IPP twice, but ONLY if my insurance covers it. That said, I don't have the patience or tolerance to do a revision every decade of my life.

If insurance doesn’t cover it, I’ll consider the IPP route only if I have SURPLUS CASH for TWO surgeries.

If neither insurance nor surplus cash is an option, I’ll go with a malleable, but only with a high-volume surgeon who has a lot of experience with malleables. Incorrect malleable placement or sizing is a recipe for erosion and infection that occurs after erosion. Surgeon selection is highly critical.

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Re: Inflatable vs Malleable - My Experience with Both & Infection

Postby ready2go » Wed Oct 09, 2024 7:17 pm

Hope84 wrote:
tobenormalagain wrote:I too am a malleable implantee (Tactra) at age 57yo. Not to knock them either, but I say if air travel had the same success rates as IPP implants, no one ever step foot on an airplane again.


But you can always get a new IPP if it fails, it is not like you can "run out" of revision surgeries. I have yet to come across someone on this forum who claims to be in this situation. Plus the idea of having a constant boner with a malleable, along with the risks of erosion that come with it, are off putting for me.

Age is also a factor. I just turned 30 and will most likely get an IPP before the end of the year. If I can get 20 years of implants (with, say, 2 revisions, so 3 implants in total, which is I believe quite pessimistic), then I would be happy to switch to a malleable at that age. But not now.


i have a constant boner and love it, when i went to a fiesta disco here and a few girls started dancing doggie style with me ,rubbing their butt on my crotch and felt the hard on, they really went at it . i had to back off because in the Philippines you can't get too wild in public ,but it was fun. The risk of erosion ? i guess if your are humping a pillow 24 hours a day, about the same risk with a ipp i imagine . . And multiple reversions ? yikes! One of those surgeries is bad enough . but each to their own . it's the 2 choices us guys have . one or the other .
i first went to Egypt for a malleable , then the doctor started pushing a ipp and put it on the table . all i could think was : wow, all that hardware goes inside a guy ?
i already had my mind made up on the malleable . and after what seemed like 10 minutes of arguing with him over it . i ended not going with him at all .that and his required list of tests at a hospital he was not synced with that acted like we were persona non grata
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Re: Inflatable vs Malleable - My Experience with Both & Infection

Postby nuance » Wed Oct 09, 2024 8:56 pm

For those with not much natural engorgement (and pills don’t help either), is a malleable viable? There won’t be much girth. I guess fillers are an option but it may not look good.

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Re: Inflatable vs Malleable - My Experience with Both & Infection

Postby LastHope » Wed Oct 09, 2024 9:04 pm

ready2go wrote: i first went to egypt for a malleable , then the doctor started pushing a ipp


Do you recall the name of the surgeon? I've heard that in Egypt, Dr. Osama Shaeer and Dr. Osama Ghatta are well-known for this. However, it seems the government has strict regulations, requiring thorough documentation of tests and proof that all other therapies have been unsuccessful before approving an implant.

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Re: Inflatable vs Malleable - My Experience with Both & Infection

Postby ready2go » Thu Oct 10, 2024 12:50 am

LastHope wrote:
ready2go wrote: i first went to egypt for a malleable , then the doctor started pushing a ipp


Do you recall the name of the surgeon? I've heard that in Egypt, Dr. Osama Shaeer and Dr. Osama Ghatta are well-known for this. However, it seems the government has strict regulations, requiring thorough documentation of tests and proof that all other therapies have been unsuccessful before approving an implant.


hmm ,i think it was the latter ,i would have to look it up.
HE had a nice clean office and they did a injection test to see what size i was .
That was all good . But then the argument over what I wanted and i told him ipps have malfunctions , etc . he looked me straight in the face and said ; no not anymore .never blah blah .more arguing after that , but he gave in and said ok , so a rigi10 malleable it is .
After that,it crossed my mind that he possibly could be unconcerned with the out come due to him not getting what HE wanted . Ok ,not very likely .but then we were directed across the street to the hosital there ,
And we stood at one counter , being ignored ,my wife who was with me got fed up and ;said HEY! We are waiting ! etc .
first, the people at the desk said ; no , we don't do those here .
Now im like wtf is this ? This doctor sends his clients over here and has no affiliation with the hospital or agreement with the various tests that need to be done ? Eventually, a person with a good disposition stepped in and brought us back into a waiting room jammed packed with patients waiting to be seen. Another surly dude took our papers , never once looked our way or asked one question and put the papers in a pile .i could go on ,but its late now and its clear we would be there all night if we got seen at all. i just ran out of bullsh.t run around paitence and walked out .
the next day the doctors' secretary called and asked why we didn't come back .
me ; really? the hospital has no idea about anything to do with your operation . Why is that ? you would think they would have a pre-arranged agreement with hospital, but no nothing, so then they offered to do the tests themselfs in their clinic .....
its a long story . we flew there on stand by and after that night being shuffled around i asked my daughter to see if she could move up the departure date and she did .so we got out of kansas . i felt quite the fool flying over there and leaving without doing what i went there for . but thats how it went .
Egypt itself was ok . You could walk down the street and find decent places to eat . crazy diver's though , constantly on the horn .zig zagging around .
later i went to india by myself. good god the city is a mess ......BUT they would pick me up at the hotel and brought me to the clinic for the required tests and boom one after another .it was done in a hour or so . and the same for the operation. pick up and drop off .
and no arguing over what type of implant . the doctor did convince me to switch from rigi10 to the tactra though .so there's that .
thats another story i have mentioned on this site .

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Re: Inflatable vs Malleable - My Experience with Both & Infection

Postby LastHope » Thu Oct 10, 2024 2:00 am

ready2go wrote:
LastHope wrote:
ready2go wrote: i first went to egypt for a malleable , then the doctor started pushing a ipp


Do you recall the name of the surgeon? I've heard that in Egypt, Dr. Osama Shaeer and Dr. Osama Ghatta are well-known for this. However, it seems the government has strict regulations, requiring thorough documentation of tests and proof that all other therapies have been unsuccessful before approving an implant.


hmm ,i think it was the latter ,i would have to look it up.
HE had a nice clean office and they did a injection test to see what size i was .
That was all good . But then the argument over what I wanted and i told him ipps have malfunctions , etc . he looked me straight in the face and said ; no not anymore .never blah blah .more arguing after that , but he gave in and said ok , so a rigi10 malleable it is .
After that,it crossed my mind that he possibly could be unconcerned with the out come due to him not getting what HE wanted . Ok ,not very likely .but then we were directed across the street to the hosital there ,
And we stood at one counter , being ignored ,my wife who was with me got fed up and ;said HEY! We are waiting ! etc .
first, the people at the desk said ; no , we don't do those here .
Now im like wtf is this ? This doctor sends his clients over here and has no affiliation with the hospital or agreement with the various tests that need to be done ? Eventually, a person with a good disposition stepped in and brought us back into a waiting room jammed packed with patients waiting to be seen. Another surly dude took our papers , never once looked our way or asked one question and put the papers in a pile .i could go on ,but its late now and its clear we would be there all night if we got seen at all. i just ran out of bullsh.t run around paitence and walked out .
the next day the doctors' secretary called and asked why we didn't come back .
me ; really? the hospital has no idea about anything to do with your operation . Why is that ? you would think they would have a pre-arranged agreement with hospital, but no nothing, so then they offered to do the tests themselfs in their clinic .....
its a long story . we flew there on stand by and after that night being shuffled around i asked my daughter to see if she could move up the departure date and she did .so we got out of kansas . i felt quite the fool flying over there and leaving without doing what i went there for . but thats how it went .
Egypt itself was ok . You could walk down the street and find decent places to eat . crazy diver's though , constantly on the horn .zig zagging around .
later i went to india by myself. good god the city is a mess ......BUT they would pick me up at the hotel and brought me to the clinic for the required tests and boom one after another .it was done in a hour or so . and the same for the operation. pick up and drop off .
and no arguing over what type of implant . the doctor did convince me to switch from rigi10 to the tactra though .so there's that .
thats another story i have mentioned on this site .


Thanks for sharing this! Brazil, Egypt, and India are top countries for the number of malleables performed. One major advantage of India is that, unlike in Brazil and Egypt, foreign tourists don’t have to navigate burdensome government bureaucracy when getting medical procedures done.

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Re: Inflatable vs Malleable - My Experience with Both & Infection

Postby ready2go » Thu Oct 10, 2024 7:47 am

LastHope wrote:
ready2go wrote:
LastHope wrote:
Do you recall the name of the surgeon? I've heard that in Egypt, Dr. Osama Shaeer and Dr. Osama Ghatta are well-known for this. However, it seems the government has strict regulations, requiring thorough documentation of tests and proof that all other therapies have been unsuccessful before approving an implant.


hmm ,i think it was the latter ,i would have to look it up.
HE had a nice clean office and they did a injection test to see what size i was .
That was all good . But then the argument over what I wanted and i told him ipps have malfunctions , etc . he looked me straight in the face and said ; no not anymore .never blah blah .more arguing after that , but he gave in and said ok , so a rigi10 malleable it is .
After that,it crossed my mind that he possibly could be unconcerned with the out come due to him not getting what HE wanted . Ok ,not very likely .but then we were directed across the street to the hosital there ,
And we stood at one counter , being ignored ,my wife who was with me got fed up and ;said HEY! We are waiting ! etc .
first, the people at the desk said ; no , we don't do those here .
Now im like wtf is this ? This doctor sends his clients over here and has no affiliation with the hospital or agreement with the various tests that need to be done ? Eventually, a person with a good disposition stepped in and brought us back into a waiting room jammed packed with patients waiting to be seen. Another surly dude took our papers , never once looked our way or asked one question and put the papers in a pile .i could go on ,but its late now and its clear we would be there all night if we got seen at all. i just ran out of bullsh.t run around paitence and walked out .
the next day the doctors' secretary called and asked why we didn't come back .
me ; really? the hospital has no idea about anything to do with your operation . Why is that ? you would think they would have a pre-arranged agreement with hospital, but no nothing, so then they offered to do the tests themselfs in their clinic .....
its a long story . we flew there on stand by and after that night being shuffled around i asked my daughter to see if she could move up the departure date and she did .so we got out of kansas . i felt quite the fool flying over there and leaving without doing what i went there for . but thats how it went .
Egypt itself was ok . You could walk down the street and find decent places to eat . crazy diver's though , constantly on the horn .zig zagging around .
later i went to india by myself. good god the city is a mess ......BUT they would pick me up at the hotel and brought me to the clinic for the required tests and boom one after another .it was done in a hour or so . and the same for the operation. pick up and drop off .
and no arguing over what type of implant . the doctor did convince me to switch from rigi10 to the tactra though .so there's that .
thats another story i have mentioned on this site .


Thanks for sharing this! Brazil, Egypt, and India are top countries for the number of malleables performed. One major advantage of India is that, unlike in Brazil and Egypt, foreign tourists don’t have to navigate burdensome government bureaucracy when getting medical procedures done.


actually egypt was easier to enter . india requires a visa be bought online before entering the country , that was a bit of a pain . i think the clinic i went to in eygpt would have been fine . but i was put off with first having to argue with the doctor , but getting past that ,the unorganized testing and attitude from the hospital pushed me over the edge .
i wasn't prepared for that . his price for the rigi10 was 3 thousand and india was 3500 they did say at the consultation that the tests could be done in their clinic but would take an extra day.
add to the event i was with my wife and while she encouraged me to stay and wait all night to be tested . the next day she said she wasn't going back with me to be tested at the office AND then i had asked my daughter to "check" if the flight departure could be changed , she instead changed it, not checked if it could be . at that point i threw in my hat ,and we left .
all that just to say if someone decides to go to Egypt , be prepared for a sanfu with the test and ask to have it done in the clinic,.

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Re: Inflatable vs Malleable - My Experience with Both & Infection

Postby thedriver » Thu Oct 10, 2024 8:04 am

actually egypt was easier to enter . india requires a visa be bought online before entering the country , that was a bit of a pain . i think the clinic i went to in eygpt would have been fine . but i was put off with first having to argue with the doctor , but getting past that ,the unorganized testing and attitude from the hospital pushed me over the edge .
i wasn't prepared for that . his price for the rigi10 was 3 thousand and india was 3500 they did say at the consultation that the tests could be done in their clinic but would take an extra day.
add to the event i was with my wife and while she encouraged me to stay and wait all night to be tested . the next day she said she wasn't going back with me to be tested at the office AND then i had asked my daughter to "check" if the flight departure could be changed , she instead changed it, not checked if it could be . at that point i threw in my hat ,and we left .
all that just to say if someone decides to go to Egypt , be prepared for a sanfu with the test and ask to have it done in the clinic,.[/quote]

I'm that kind of guy also, short patience for people blowing smoke at me when I'm trying to give them money and all they want is more than your handing them.
After 4 Titan IPP failures within 4 years I finally wised up and went to the Malleable Genesis 23cm- 13mm implanted 2-1-24 and no regrets so far.
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