Devastating Length Loss

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Stampede
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Devastating Length Loss

Postby Stampede » Wed Oct 16, 2024 5:03 am

Hello hello!

I have started a Journal here, but been very busy lately. I will update my original thread in a few days!

So, I will give some facts before we (hopefully) discuss that I am not as fucked as I see myself right now.

- 5 weeks post surgery
- started cycling 3 weeks post surgery
- distal: 11cm
- proximal: 10cm
- implant: 20cm +1cm RTE Rigicon Infla10x
- pre length:
- around 18cm NBPEL (7 inches)
- 19,5cm BPEL (7,6 inches)

- current length aroused: 13,5cm NBPEL (5,3 inches)

So I lost 4,5cm (1.7 inches) in length.

Now I am pretty sure everyone will tell me "give it time, cycle daily, you will recover, it can take up to a year, ..). I get that. But what I dont get is the following:

- 19,5cm bone pressed before, 21cm implant. So only 1,5cm deep crus? Or lets give it 3,5cm crus, because of glans engorgement. Allready seems kind of off, doesnt it?
- last point allready not a fact because he meassured 10cm proximal. So only 11cm of implant length left for almost 20cm of penis. Dont think my glans will engorge 9cm...
- Rigicon Infla10x wont increase in lenght, so where should those missing inches come from?
- if I add up those 11cm distal with 2,5cm glans engorgement, I am spot on at those 13,5cm I am left with right now.
- if I inflate as much as pain lets me, I can grab my glans and extend my penis without much effort for around 2-3cm, pulling the cylinders out of my glans
- if i cycle and get pain, I only get the pain in the shaft, girthwise its extending (like its supposed to), no pain or preassure inside the glans


I dont know if I am missing something here, but seems to me, that I maybe got slightly undersized(?)
Still dont get the science behind cylcing for lenght. Where does the lenght increase via cylcing come from, if cylinders dont expand in lenght?

If you go by the "one third is in your body"-rule of thumb:
- coming from a 18cm penis, you get a 27cm implant
Going by "one quarter is inside your body":
-you get a 24cm implant.

Calculating the other way, with 21cm implant:
-1/3-rule: 14cm is outside your body
-1/4-rule: 15,7cm is outside your body

So it seems like I the meassurements I have right now seem to line up with the implant lenght I have. But nothing lines up with the penis length I had before.
I can not imagine getting back to my original length, with the 21cm implant I have right now.
30yo, Germany. Priapism January 2024, erections after that sometimes good, sometimes shit.
implanted 09th September 2024, Rigicon Infla10X 20cm+1cm RTE

TheDongDangler
Posts: 255
Joined: Tue Jun 18, 2024 12:27 am

Re: Devastating Length Loss

Postby TheDongDangler » Wed Oct 16, 2024 5:27 am

Stampede wrote:Hello hello!

I have started a Journal here, but been very busy lately. I will update my original thread in a few days!

So, I will give some facts before we (hopefully) discuss that I am not as fucked as I see myself right now.

- 5 weeks post surgery
- started cycling 3 weeks post surgery
- distal: 11cm
- proximal: 10cm
- implant: 20cm +1cm RTE Rigicon Infla10x
- pre length:
- around 18cm NBPEL (7 inches)
- 19,5cm BPEL (7,6 inches)

- current length aroused: 13,5cm NBPEL (5,3 inches)

So I lost 4,5cm (1.7 inches) in length.

Now I am pretty sure everyone will tell me "give it time, cycle daily, you will recover, it can take up to a year, ..). I get that. But what I dont get is the following:

- 19,5cm bone pressed before, 21cm implant. So only 1,5cm deep crus? Or lets give it 3,5cm crus, because of glans engorgement. Allready seems kind of off, doesnt it?
- last point allready not a fact because he meassured 10cm proximal. So only 11cm of implant length left for almost 20cm of penis. Dont think my glans will engorge 9cm...
- Rigicon Infla10x wont increase in lenght, so where should those missing inches come from?
- if I add up those 11cm distal with 2,5cm glans engorgement, I am spot on at those 13,5cm I am left with right now.
- if I inflate as much as pain lets me, I can grab my glans and extend my penis without much effort for around 2-3cm, pulling the cylinders out of my glans
- if i cycle and get pain, I only get the pain in the shaft, girthwise its extending (like its supposed to), no pain or preassure inside the glans


I dont know if I am missing something here, but seems to me, that I maybe got slightly undersized(?)
Still dont get the science behind cylcing for lenght. Where does the lenght increase via cylcing come from, if cylinders dont expand in lenght?

If you go by the "one third is in your body"-rule of thumb:
- coming from a 18cm penis, you get a 27cm implant
Going by "one quarter is inside your body":
-you get a 24cm implant.

Calculating the other way, with 21cm implant:
-1/3-rule: 14cm is outside your body
-1/4-rule: 15,7cm is outside your body

So it seems like I the meassurements I have right now seem to line up with the implant lenght I have. But nothing lines up with the penis length I had before.
I can not imagine getting back to my original length, with the 21cm implant I have right now.



We have the same size implant and the same size penis but I was shorted from 20 cm to 19cm as malleable. I think you’ll get your length back. I cried when I first saw my penis lol.
Rigicon MALLEABLE
20 cm + 0.5cm RTE
11 mm diameter rods
——
Pre-Op penile length: 7.9 inches length, 4.75 inches girth
Post-Op penile length: 7.5 inches length, 4.5 inches girth
Happy :)

atul21
Posts: 381
Joined: Thu Sep 15, 2022 3:08 am

Re: Devastating Length Loss

Postby atul21 » Wed Oct 16, 2024 9:03 am

Stampede wrote:Hello hello!

I have started a Journal here, but been very busy lately. I will update my original thread in a few days!

So, I will give some facts before we (hopefully) discuss that I am not as fucked as I see myself right now.

- 5 weeks post surgery
- started cycling 3 weeks post surgery
- distal: 11cm
- proximal: 10cm
- implant: 20cm +1cm RTE Rigicon Infla10x
- pre length:
- around 18cm NBPEL (7 inches)
- 19,5cm BPEL (7,6 inches)

- current length aroused: 13,5cm NBPEL (5,3 inches)

So I lost 4,5cm (1.7 inches) in length.

Now I am pretty sure everyone will tell me "give it time, cycle daily, you will recover, it can take up to a year, ..). I get that. But what I dont get is the following:

- 19,5cm bone pressed before, 21cm implant. So only 1,5cm deep crus? Or lets give it 3,5cm crus, because of glans engorgement. Allready seems kind of off, doesnt it?
- last point allready not a fact because he meassured 10cm proximal. So only 11cm of implant length left for almost 20cm of penis. Dont think my glans will engorge 9cm...
- Rigicon Infla10x wont increase in lenght, so where should those missing inches come from?
- if I add up those 11cm distal with 2,5cm glans engorgement, I am spot on at those 13,5cm I am left with right now.
- if I inflate as much as pain lets me, I can grab my glans and extend my penis without much effort for around 2-3cm, pulling the cylinders out of my glans
- if i cycle and get pain, I only get the pain in the shaft, girthwise its extending (like its supposed to), no pain or preassure inside the glans


I dont know if I am missing something here, but seems to me, that I maybe got slightly undersized(?)
Still dont get the science behind cylcing for lenght. Where does the lenght increase via cylcing come from, if cylinders dont expand in lenght?

If you go by the "one third is in your body"-rule of thumb:
- coming from a 18cm penis, you get a 27cm implant
Going by "one quarter is inside your body":
-you get a 24cm implant.

Calculating the other way, with 21cm implant:
-1/3-rule: 14cm is outside your body
-1/4-rule: 15,7cm is outside your body

So it seems like I the meassurements I have right now seem to line up with the implant lenght I have. But nothing lines up with the penis length I had before.
I can not imagine getting back to my original length, with the 21cm implant I have right now.


The pre-length you mention were taken when? Are these the length just before the surgery?
42 yr old from India, Ed since many years.
Coloplast Titan 22 cms one touch pump no rte; implanted by Dr. Billy Cordon in Miami on 02-March-2023. Found Dr. Cordon on reco from Dr. Eid after he fell sick.
Happy to help!
My Journal- click here

Stampede
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Re: Devastating Length Loss

Postby Stampede » Wed Oct 16, 2024 10:30 am

atul21 wrote: The pre-length you mention were taken when? Are these the length just before the surgery?


Yes, around 2 or 3 days before surgery and those meassurements have been the same for the last 15 years. The meassurement-method know is also the same.

I never had ED until January this year. Since then I could not keep it hard 7 out of 10 times. The other 3 times it worked. Also trimix worked. So I was having frequent erections up until surgery. Atrophy is not a thing to consider.
30yo, Germany. Priapism January 2024, erections after that sometimes good, sometimes shit.
implanted 09th September 2024, Rigicon Infla10X 20cm+1cm RTE

TheDongDangler
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Joined: Tue Jun 18, 2024 12:27 am

Re: Devastating Length Loss

Postby TheDongDangler » Wed Oct 16, 2024 10:33 am

Stampede wrote:
atul21 wrote: The pre-length you mention were taken when? Are these the length just before the surgery?


Yes, around 2 or 3 days before surgery and those meassurements have been the same for the last 15 years. The meassurement-method know is also the same.

I never had ED until January this year. Since then I could not keep it hard 7 out of 10 times. The other 3 times it worked. Also trimix worked. So I was having frequent erections up until surgery. Atrophy is not a thing to consider.


Stampede, it was the same with me. I was wondering where the hell is my penis. We’re the same size. It’ll take a year of cycling to get your penis back. If you’re bigger than 19,5 cm of implant there’s no reason to not get it back. Proximal and distal are not related to external internal. They’re related to the incision in your penis.
Rigicon MALLEABLE
20 cm + 0.5cm RTE
11 mm diameter rods
——
Pre-Op penile length: 7.9 inches length, 4.75 inches girth
Post-Op penile length: 7.5 inches length, 4.5 inches girth
Happy :)

easymoney
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Joined: Tue May 09, 2023 10:28 am
Location: West Coast Fl.

Re: Devastating Length Loss

Postby easymoney » Wed Oct 16, 2024 11:03 am

I keep seeing postings over and over about size loss ... Many upset guys ..pissed off guys ..shocked guys ... no dr. in his right mind is going to tell you that you will "regain" size lost to age ... ED .. etc .. how many would get and implant if the dr. told you that you were guaranteed to lose 1/2 an inch but your dick would always work for sex for the rest of your life .. Do you think we would see as many postings on size as before ..or would most guys be happy to have a dick to have their sex life back and just accept the 1/2 in loss that was explained before they did surgery as just a sad fact of life .. I'm just curious if anyone with any experience in size "loss" would chime in ..

Stampede
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Re: Devastating Length Loss

Postby Stampede » Wed Oct 16, 2024 11:17 am

easymoney wrote:I keep seeing postings over and over about size loss ... Many upset guys ..pissed off guys ..shocked guys ... no dr. in his right mind is going to tell you that you will "regain" size lost to age ... ED .. etc .. how many would get and implant if the dr. told you that you were guaranteed to lose 1/2 an inch but your dick would always work for sex for the rest of your life .. Do you think we would see as many postings on size as before ..or would most guys be happy to have a dick to have their sex life back and just accept the 1/2 in loss that was explained before they did surgery as just a sad fact of life .. I'm just curious if anyone with any experience in size "loss" would chime in ..


well. If a dr could ensure me I would lose 1/2 inch, I would 100% do it and would 100% be fine with the lost 1/2 inch.
Not knowing how much or if you are losing anything and then losing almost 2 inch is a different story.
30yo, Germany. Priapism January 2024, erections after that sometimes good, sometimes shit.
implanted 09th September 2024, Rigicon Infla10X 20cm+1cm RTE

Stampede
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Joined: Mon Jan 29, 2024 6:49 am

Re: Devastating Length Loss

Postby Stampede » Wed Oct 16, 2024 11:20 am

TheDongDangler wrote:
Stampede wrote:
atul21 wrote: The pre-length you mention were taken when? Are these the length just before the surgery?


Yes, around 2 or 3 days before surgery and those meassurements have been the same for the last 15 years. The meassurement-method know is also the same.

I never had ED until January this year. Since then I could not keep it hard 7 out of 10 times. The other 3 times it worked. Also trimix worked. So I was having frequent erections up until surgery. Atrophy is not a thing to consider.


Stampede, it was the same with me. I was wondering where the hell is my penis. We’re the same size. It’ll take a year of cycling to get your penis back. If you’re bigger than 19,5 cm of implant there’s no reason to not get it back. Proximal and distal are not related to external internal. They’re related to the incision in your penis.

Thanks for your kind words. I am not sure how relatable mallable and inflateable are.
As for the cycling part its the funniest thing ever on this forum. There is litterally NOBODY here who can explain what is going on while cycling in regards to regaining length.

I am aware, that proximal and distal are different depending on where you cut open. This is the one and only hope I got.
30yo, Germany. Priapism January 2024, erections after that sometimes good, sometimes shit.
implanted 09th September 2024, Rigicon Infla10X 20cm+1cm RTE

Bigdog4all
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Re: Devastating Length Loss

Postby Bigdog4all » Wed Oct 16, 2024 11:42 am

I'm not sure what to really say. I am at 8 months post surgery (2/8/24). During the first few months, my wife would make a sometimes hurtful joke. She would say, What are you gonna do with that little thing. I could have let her words get me down, but I didn't let it get me down. Several brothers in here told me to hang in there, (cycle...cycle...cycle) it will get better and larger. The plus, I gained a hard dick, I gained some girth, but I did loose some length, (From 7 to 6) but two pluses are better than none. I don't miss that 1/2 - 1 inch. And now, she doesn't either. The trade off from nothing to whenever, I'll take the later. You just have to learn new positions to better lay pipe.
72, AMS 700 LGX. Married to an Angel. Discovered ED at 67. Path = Diabetic, Supplements, Pills, Needle, Pump, and finally AMS 700 (2-8-24).

Stampede
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Re: Devastating Length Loss

Postby Stampede » Wed Oct 16, 2024 12:16 pm

Bigdog4all wrote:I'm not sure what to really say. I am at 8 months post surgery (2/8/24). During the first few months, my wife would make a sometimes hurtful joke. She would say, What are you gonna do with that little thing. I could have let her words get me down, but I didn't let it get me down. Several brothers in here told me to hang in there, (cycle...cycle...cycle) it will get better and larger. The plus, I gained a hard dick, I gained some girth, but I did loose some length, (From 7 to 6) but two pluses are better than none. I don't miss that 1/2 - 1 inch. And now, she doesn't either. The trade off from nothing to whenever, I'll take the later. You just have to learn new positions to better lay pipe.

So those are the kind of answers, that kill every last hope for me.
You got an Implant that will expand up to 20% in lenght and still lost 1 inch.
I have an implant that does not expand in lenght.
If u are 6inches now, which is your LGX with 20% expansion, your LGX without the 20% would be spot on 5 inches. 2 less, then pre surgery. So it makes sense, I lost 2 inches. Never mind, thank you anyway BigDog.
30yo, Germany. Priapism January 2024, erections after that sometimes good, sometimes shit.
implanted 09th September 2024, Rigicon Infla10X 20cm+1cm RTE


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